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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
(11-27-2019 10:06 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 09:52 AM)WMTRIBE75 Wrote:  There was a moment in the first half when Nate was at the foul line for a one and one and Quinn was our guy to Nate's right on the free throw line. I swear that when Nate's first shot left his hand I saw Quinn leave his spot and start racing to the other end of the court and then quickly return when the first shot went in. Maybe my eyes were just playing tricks on me.

I think it was just a Quinn brain fart thinking it was the 2nd shot. I remember that play and seeing the guys, including Nate, chuckling about it.

You are probably right. At that moment my brain convinced me that he had headed down court even before the shot went through the nets. Got to quit sniffing glue before watching games.
11-27-2019 10:24 AM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
(11-27-2019 10:24 AM)WMTRIBE75 Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 10:06 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 09:52 AM)WMTRIBE75 Wrote:  There was a moment in the first half when Nate was at the foul line for a one and one and Quinn was our guy to Nate's right on the free throw line. I swear that when Nate's first shot left his hand I saw Quinn leave his spot and start racing to the other end of the court and then quickly return when the first shot went in. Maybe my eyes were just playing tricks on me.

I think it was just a Quinn brain fart thinking it was the 2nd shot. I remember that play and seeing the guys, including Nate, chuckling about it.

You are probably right. At that moment my brain convinced me that he had headed down court even before the shot went through the nets. Got to quit sniffing glue before watching games.

Hey WMT75, Chuck Swenson and Rick Boyages are long gone. You can ease up on the self-medicating before games now.
11-27-2019 10:38 AM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
(11-27-2019 09:04 AM)Zorch Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 08:36 AM)wmmii Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 05:21 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  I wonder if the guards are instructed to just get back in transition when an outside shot goes up. Looking at the highlight reel from the game, rebounding long jumpers looks like the last thing on their minds. On some of the 3's, there wasn't a white jersey anywhere inside the 3pt line and guys backpedaling rather than crashing. I know we won the game and the rebounding stats, but it's the little things that could improve this team.

Dane said at the luncheon last month they want to defend the fast break so the two bigs crash the boards and the others drop back

I noticed that pattern particularly at the Stanford game. Its relative importance is indicated by whether the Tribe wins or loses, I guess. Also, that pattern (as laid out by wmmii) doesn't work when it is the bigs themselves who are firing up the 3-pointers.

(11-27-2019 08:43 AM)ScottyB757 Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 05:20 AM)bubbadog57 Wrote:  We really enjoyed Nate's night...especially when he brought the ball down court as kind of a huge guard!

I noticed how comfortable Andy and Nate are bringing the ball up the court. Not that they should be doing that routinely, but if/when they have to, they can handle it.

I remember a game last year which we lost by a very close margin (and don't ask me for specifics because I don't recall which game it was) when Nate was bringing the ball up court. A quick guard stole the ball and went in for an easy layup --- and we wound up losing that game. In other words, I would prefer if Nate would let the guards do their job and bring the ball up. Sure, it is all about showing the NBA scouts his versatility (also the main reason Nate shoots so many treys) but I don't want that kind of stuff to cost the Tribe a game. (Nate does seem to have improved his 3-point shooting from last year. He seems to be taking about twice as many per game this year. That is just from my impressions; someone else can look it up if they are so motivated.)

I agree they shouldn't be bringing the ball up when they're under pressure, but last night there were occasions when MST was pressing that no one was guarding Andy and/or Nate and they very capably handled the ball (particularly Andy) until they could get it to Luke or Bryce.
11-27-2019 10:41 AM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
It would take a very strong season, but Knight could actually challenge Thornton's record for most points scored in Tribe history. He's averaging 19.9 a game right now, and we have at least 25 games left. That'd put him on pace for ~2,100, Thornton scored 2,178. He'd have to average about 23 points a game to break it (Though we only play 25 games if we're one and done in the CAA tournament, if we make a deep run it gets easier).
11-27-2019 10:46 AM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
W&M wins by double digits in a game where the opponent shoots 50%. Just like the good old days.
11-27-2019 10:47 AM
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(11-27-2019 10:47 AM)Rocco Wrote:  W&M wins by double digits in a game where the opponent shoots 50%. Just like the good old days.

I was wondering when someone would bring that up. Not sure that all of the talk about focusing on defense is materializing on the court. We are giving up a lot of points against teams that aren't that good.
11-27-2019 11:13 AM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
We almost doubled the spread so while there is always room for improvement, this was another positive night in my book.

We made a big jump on Sagarin today, up to #131. We were in the mid 160s before last nights game. I'm guessing Stanfords romp of Oklahoma may have had something to do with that. American also bombed Howard by near 20 points.

High Point is now one of the lowest ranked teams in the entire country.

Buffalo will be another nice opportunity this weekend. Based on Sagarin, we should be 4-5 point dogs in this one. They are rated #115.
11-27-2019 11:29 AM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
(11-27-2019 11:13 AM)Tribe32 Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 10:47 AM)Rocco Wrote:  W&M wins by double digits in a game where the opponent shoots 50%. Just like the good old days.

I was wondering when someone would bring that up. Not sure that all of the talk about focusing on defense is materializing on the court. We are giving up a lot of points against teams that aren't that good.

They'd had some solid defensive performances to start the year- they've held 3 teams under 40% shooting (halfway to last year's total). Last night was not one of them.
11-27-2019 04:25 PM
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Game 7 - Morehead State
Coach Dane acknowledged in postgame the D was not good last night. Let us see how the next two games play out


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11-27-2019 05:26 PM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
fwiw kenpom has us ranked lower (274) than last year (255) on adjusted defensive efficiency
11-27-2019 07:30 PM
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RE: Game 7 - Morehead State
We jumped up to #66 on RealTime RPI. The season's first NET rankings come out on the 12th.
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(11-27-2019 07:30 PM)tribalwarfare Wrote:  fwiw kenpom has us ranked lower (274) than last year (255) on adjusted defensive efficiency

IIRC KenPom weights the numbers with 2018 and preseason projections through the non-conference slate.
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