(11-27-2019 05:15 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: At FSU, all of our blue chip athletes are Rhodes Scholars.
Not sure how FSU is above Clemson or Miami unless you think our low apr is some indication. I’m not denying that a bagman probably exist or classes for dumb jocks. I think our boosters may not be that rich to throw a bunch of money at kids or their parents. How did you come to the conclusion that FSU is #3 in the ACC in cheatin?
Garrett, in real life I try to be a stickler for language so what I say is clear. No so much here. Here I try to be more normal and therefore funnier. There is cheating, and there is cheatin. If you ain't cheatin you aint trying.
What I have done is combine a willingness to tolerate aberrations from the student body in order to win a ball game. I and the wife, and the kids have graduated or worked in administration of State, Carolina, VT, Duke, Wake Forest, ECU, etc. Short of killing the other players, Carolina will do ANYTHING to win a ball game. It's more than just basketball and it permeates all sports - I know because I have relatives that have played at UNC. They can't help themselves. The problem was lying about it for 40 years.
Now, who is smarter - the one who plays to win at all cost, or the one playing by the rules who gets waxed? When the Nazis played the Allies, did it matter what the rules were or did it matter who won. Carolina approaches sports like war. Clemson approaches football like war, led by Patton, Sherman, or Caesar. Clemson makes no bone about their intentions. In order to win a title, FSU put up with the Winston ****, and Winston would have been tossed off the team at State, WF, and Duke. Not that Winston deserved that - that's not the point.
Duke is craftier and needs to cut less academic corners because they are a private school and the have not taken a kid who could not read in many, many years. Duke also has a backend deal for their former players.
So it's on me for not being clear.
When I say cheatin or respond to cheatin I'm talking about getting kids out of jail, having charges dropped, allowing them to live in coaches houses, and giving their parents jobs. Cash money - while part of it, is not so much it.
State does a piss poor job cheatin' because the faculty goes ape **** over it. The mentality of the University is that you must earn a degree from State College not that you are to be given a degree for serving NC State. XLance's comments are morally bankrupt. Kap's comments are just a piggyback representing that he is still pissed because he wants to blame Danny Ford's firing on NC State, when the plan fact was that it was SEC schools that dropped the dime on Tiger Cash.
State's boosters are engineers, architects, farmers, textile execs, computer types, etc., not mercantile oriented entrepreneurs. They live about 30-40 years in the past from an ethical mindset. They are fixated on fairness in an unfair system that rewards who cheats best.
It is interesting that the article does not mention Adidas, or that the supposed payment of money came from Adidas, to the player's family member. The players says he received no money. The Coach says he paid no money. That's like claiming Auburn paid Cam Newton or Duke paid Zion Williamson using the Clemson method of going through local Churches.
