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Under reported story lines in the '19-'20 football season
Clemson is effectively one half season ahead of everybody else in player development due to the volume of reps their second and even third strings have gotten. This also means you're always playing Clemson's first string with them much better rested than you are.

The Georgia Tech pass defense went from perennial joke to pretty respectable in one season without changing personnel. This is despite being asked to play man coverage on an island by both corners very often.

Geoff Collins mailed in this season in terms of record with the hopes to gain dividends in future seasons. They have aggressively substituted -- often with hockey style change outs -- all season regardless of opponent or score. This means next season you'll catch Collins with a new recruiting class ... and then another 1/4 of an entire class worth of transfers who didn't make it through the transfer portal with immediate eligibility before the NCAA slammed it shut.

Barring a late turn around, UVA, VT, Duke, and Cuse are bleeding out in recruiting. Of these four, UVA has the most potential for a turn around.

Coach Odell is on the verge of delivering FSU their very own Dabo.

Virginia Tech's problems seem to have been that Fuente let players dictate terms to some extent. If you're a Hokie you're feeling good about the turn around this season but looking at recruiting and the huge transfer volume out without replacement you've got to be concerned about the future.

Mack Brown inherited a loaded roster for a new head coach. Talent wise it's roughly a wash between UNC, VT, and Miami over the last four years. With the transfer bleed out and change in recruiting fortunes this year, UNC would be clearly ahead of even VT if this season holds.

If you take a rough look at recruiting classes and results, in general:
- WF, Pitt, and UVA are overachieving right now
- Miami, FSU, UNC are underachieving right now

Missing: The stingy hard nosed Boston College defense, when they finally field a quality offense to go with it.

Duke installed elements of the Paul Johnson style flexbone spread option. After griping about player safety and the NCAA neutering the offense through rule changes, Cutcliffe seems to be reaping some bad juju on offense as a result now. How about you just pick a system and run it Cut? You can't half-arse the flexbone spread option, you have to FULLY commit to running it every down for it to be effective.
11-21-2019 10:31 PM
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RE: Under reported story lines in the '19-'20 football season
(11-21-2019 10:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Barring a late turn around, UVA, VT, Duke, and Cuse are bleeding out in recruiting. Of these four, UVA has the most potential for a turn around.

Virginia Tech's problems seem to have been that Fuente let players dictate terms to some extent. If you're a Hokie you're feeling good about the turn around this season but looking at recruiting and the huge transfer volume out without replacement you've got to be concerned about the future.

I've never seen a VT recruiting class without any 4 stars. And I'm not sure the 3 stars are highly regarded 3 stars because the current 24/7 composite rankings have VT at 78 with 11 commits.

I think this year is supposed to be a smaller class since we only had 6 seniors on the roster (1 starter) coming into this season. In that respect the future looks bright as all contributors will be back next year and most the year after.

Fuente was letting player dictate terms up until the Duke game. Once that happened, he told them the practices were going to be harder and he was going to coach his way regardless of consequence. He had to be gun shy after losing 20 some players in the off season.

Right now I just want to beat Pitt and UVA and worry about what comes next after that.
11-22-2019 11:31 AM
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RE: Under reported story lines in the '19-'20 football season
(11-22-2019 11:31 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 10:31 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Barring a late turn around, UVA, VT, Duke, and Cuse are bleeding out in recruiting. Of these four, UVA has the most potential for a turn around.

Virginia Tech's problems seem to have been that Fuente let players dictate terms to some extent. If you're a Hokie you're feeling good about the turn around this season but looking at recruiting and the huge transfer volume out without replacement you've got to be concerned about the future.

I've never seen a VT recruiting class without any 4 stars. And I'm not sure the 3 stars are highly regarded 3 stars because the current 24/7 composite rankings have VT at 78 with 11 commits.

I think this year is supposed to be a smaller class since we only had 6 seniors on the roster (1 starter) coming into this season. In that respect the future looks bright as all contributors will be back next year and most the year after.

Fuente was letting player dictate terms up until the Duke game. Once that happened, he told them the practices were going to be harder and he was going to coach his way regardless of consequence. He had to be gun shy after losing 20 some players in the off season.

Right now I just want to beat Pitt and UVA and worry about what comes next after that.

The poor recruiting class does concern me [see my recruiting update], but I agree that if VT can win out, play well in the ACC CG and in a bowl (possibly Orange), things will work themselves out.
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RE: Under reported story lines in the '19-'20 football season
A late addition: Will Dave Doeren survive this season? https://footballscoop.com/news/critical-...-nc-state/
11-22-2019 02:29 PM
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RE: Under reported story lines in the '19-'20 football season
Why would they fire Doeren? 1 off year is not a trend.
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RE: Under reported story lines in the '19-'20 football season
(11-22-2019 02:29 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  A late addition: Will Dave Doeren survive this season? https://footballscoop.com/news/critical-...-nc-state/

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RE: Under reported story lines in the '19-'20 football season
The ideal revenue sport coach for NC State is a competent, emotional showman. Everett Case, Press Maravich, Norm Sloan and Jim Valvano -Keats is more subdued than these three but he's not in over his head like Sendek, Lowe, and otherwise occupied as Gott.

Holtz was the standard by which all others were judged until Sheridan. Amato needed a "keeper" - an aid with him at all times to keep him rooted, without that he was able to piss off the wrong people in the good ole boys club and in the faculty. TOB was wet paint drying - Herb Sendeck type. DD has more personality than Herb but is boring by comparison to others.

To be successful as a football coach at State you have to deal with Southern fan base that is the nest to poorest in term of multi generational wealth in the ACC, yet runs an academic program model almost entirely after Purdue. Penn State, and he public side of Cornell. Dave is not going to get fired at least this year, because the only legitimate replacement that checks all the boxes just went to Louisville and the second fellow just went to ECU.
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