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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-25-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What happened last year has nothing to do with next year

Based on our 2014 recruiting class and returnees, we should have been bowl good
in 2017.
Based on the total number of returnees, we should have been been at least bowl good in 2018.
This season was a rebuilding season, but even so we should have beaten a poor Norfolk St. by more than 4 points, and it appears that my prediction of 1-11, based on the NSU outcome will be realized.

I believe that there are some ominous signs that indeed could correlate last year with next year, all other things being the same.
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11-25-2019 09:10 PM
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-25-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What happened last year has nothing to do with next year

Seriously??? What happened last year....and this year....and two years ago have everything to do with what happens next year. It’s called “recruiting” and losing a million games and taking permanent residence in the conference cellar negatively impacts it. Bad Players + Bad Coaching = Bad News.
11-26-2019 01:14 AM
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-26-2019 01:14 AM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What happened last year has nothing to do with next year

Seriously??? What happened last year....and this year....and two years ago have everything to do with what happens next year. It’s called “recruiting” and losing a million games and taking permanent residence in the conference cellar negatively impacts it. Bad Players + Bad Coaching = Bad News.

Gotta agree. The problem is Bobby. He recruits the players, hires the assistants and the results are on him. The same players will return except the grads or transfers, so unless we get the needed new coach, we should expect a similar outcome.
11-26-2019 01:22 AM
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-25-2019 03:18 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  We are on track to return 18 starters (counting Wolfe) next year. The only losses will be Brewton, Moss, Wilder, and Barnett.

Let me give you some examples....in 2018, there were 21 teams that returned 16 starters or more including their QB; 17 of them had a better record than they did in 2017.

In 2019, there were 24 teams that brought back 16 or more starters. All but 4 matched or surpassed last year records (FIU, Michigan State, App State, and Iowa State) and 2 of them have the chance to tie it by winning one of their remaining games.

FWIW, were 116th in returning starters this year with 9. THe leaders in CUSA in returning starters were Southern Miss (improved), FIU (fell apart) and Western Kentucky (muhc improved).

Players improve over 4 years and the teams that have the most returning starters do significantly better than teams that don't return many starters.

Derek may be back next year. I think he got a medical redshirt from his season ending injury back in 2016. He also posted the ODU non-conference opponents on his IG story and captioned it "Senior Year Part 2"
11-26-2019 08:27 AM
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-25-2019 09:10 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What happened last year has nothing to do with next year

Based on our 2014 recruiting class and returnees, we should have been bowl good
in 2017.
Based on the total number of returnees, we should have been been at least bowl good in 2018.
This season was a rebuilding season, but even so we should have beaten a poor Norfolk St. by more than 4 points, and it appears that my prediction of 1-11, based on the NSU outcome will be realized.

I believe that there are some ominous signs that indeed could correlate last year with next year, all other things being the same.

I feel very ominous about our current football status and have felt that way for a while. We are insignificant as far as college football goes right now.
11-26-2019 10:28 AM
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(11-26-2019 10:28 AM)odu83alumni Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 09:10 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What happened last year has nothing to do with next year

Based on our 2014 recruiting class and returnees, we should have been bowl good
in 2017.
Based on the total number of returnees, we should have been been at least bowl good in 2018.
This season was a rebuilding season, but even so we should have beaten a poor Norfolk St. by more than 4 points, and it appears that my prediction of 1-11, based on the NSU outcome will be realized.

I believe that there are some ominous signs that indeed could correlate last year with next year, all other things being the same.

I feel very ominous about our current football status and have felt that way for a while. We are insignificant as far as college football goes right now.

College football, we are insignificant in Hampton Roads football right now. But hey, wait until next year! We will have a championship team under BW ..... I just have a really bad feeling that WS and JB are going to let this joke continue next year. 03-puke
11-26-2019 11:31 AM
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-26-2019 10:28 AM)odu83alumni Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 09:10 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 08:44 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  What happened last year has nothing to do with next year

Based on our 2014 recruiting class and returnees, we should have been bowl good
in 2017.
Based on the total number of returnees, we should have been been at least bowl good in 2018.
This season was a rebuilding season, but even so we should have beaten a poor Norfolk St. by more than 4 points, and it appears that my prediction of 1-11, based on the NSU outcome will be realized.

I believe that there are some ominous signs that indeed could correlate last year with next year, all other things being the same.

I feel very ominous about our current football status and have felt that way for a while. We are insignificant as far as college football goes right now.

We need to hire a coach that can recruit quality players and know what to do with them if they get um) but if not, we need to go back to CAA. At least we may be competitive there and works for BW.
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-26-2019 08:27 AM)ODU FB Fan Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 03:18 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  We are on track to return 18 starters (counting Wolfe) next year. The only losses will be Brewton, Moss, Wilder, and Barnett.

Let me give you some examples....in 2018, there were 21 teams that returned 16 starters or more including their QB; 17 of them had a better record than they did in 2017.

In 2019, there were 24 teams that brought back 16 or more starters. All but 4 matched or surpassed last year records (FIU, Michigan State, App State, and Iowa State) and 2 of them have the chance to tie it by winning one of their remaining games.

FWIW, were 116th in returning starters this year with 9. THe leaders in CUSA in returning starters were Southern Miss (improved), FIU (fell apart) and Western Kentucky (muhc improved).

Players improve over 4 years and the teams that have the most returning starters do significantly better than teams that don't return many starters.

Derek may be back next year. I think he got a medical redshirt from his season ending injury back in 2016. He also posted the ODU non-conference opponents on his IG story and captioned it "Senior Year Part 2"

Yeah, that is true and may depend on if his Dad is back.
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-26-2019 01:03 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-26-2019 08:27 AM)ODU FB Fan Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 03:18 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  We are on track to return 18 starters (counting Wolfe) next year. The only losses will be Brewton, Moss, Wilder, and Barnett.

Let me give you some examples....in 2018, there were 21 teams that returned 16 starters or more including their QB; 17 of them had a better record than they did in 2017.

In 2019, there were 24 teams that brought back 16 or more starters. All but 4 matched or surpassed last year records (FIU, Michigan State, App State, and Iowa State) and 2 of them have the chance to tie it by winning one of their remaining games.

FWIW, were 116th in returning starters this year with 9. THe leaders in CUSA in returning starters were Southern Miss (improved), FIU (fell apart) and Western Kentucky (muhc improved).

Players improve over 4 years and the teams that have the most returning starters do significantly better than teams that don't return many starters.

Derek may be back next year. I think he got a medical redshirt from his season ending injury back in 2016. He also posted the ODU non-conference opponents on his IG story and captioned it "Senior Year Part 2"

Yeah, that is true and may depend on if his Dad is back.

At this point, who cares?
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RE: ODU @ MTSU Final: ODU 17, MTSU 38
(11-26-2019 05:24 PM)blueandsilver Wrote:  
(11-26-2019 01:03 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(11-26-2019 08:27 AM)ODU FB Fan Wrote:  
(11-25-2019 03:18 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  We are on track to return 18 starters (counting Wolfe) next year. The only losses will be Brewton, Moss, Wilder, and Barnett.

Let me give you some examples....in 2018, there were 21 teams that returned 16 starters or more including their QB; 17 of them had a better record than they did in 2017.

In 2019, there were 24 teams that brought back 16 or more starters. All but 4 matched or surpassed last year records (FIU, Michigan State, App State, and Iowa State) and 2 of them have the chance to tie it by winning one of their remaining games.

FWIW, were 116th in returning starters this year with 9. THe leaders in CUSA in returning starters were Southern Miss (improved), FIU (fell apart) and Western Kentucky (muhc improved).

Players improve over 4 years and the teams that have the most returning starters do significantly better than teams that don't return many starters.

Derek may be back next year. I think he got a medical redshirt from his season ending injury back in 2016. He also posted the ODU non-conference opponents on his IG story and captioned it "Senior Year Part 2"

Yeah, that is true and may depend on if his Dad is back.

At this point, who cares?

Me
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