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Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
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UNCW's first opponent in our nation's capital, Cleveland State was blown out by their 2nd opponent, FIU, 107-61 on Tuesday night. The Vikings sit at 0-4 against D-I competition thus far, with their only win coming against non-DI Edinboro. They've played tough competition (Minnesota, Missouri State, South Carolina, FIU) but haven't been competitive in any of the contests, with an average margin of defeat of 32 points across their four losses.

No player on CSU is averaging double figures. Leading the team is 6-4 sophomore Tre Gomillion at 9.4 ppg. Gomillion also leads the team in rebounding (5.4 rpg) and Steals (1.6 spg). The only other player to have started all 5 games for the Vikings is 6-3 junior guard Franklyn Penn (5.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 1.0 spg). The rest of the starting lineup has been in flux, with 7 other players receiving starts thru 5 games.

Cleveland State isn't doing much of anything well so far, as the results have indicated. They're only shooting .362 from the field and .265 from three point range, have been outrebounded 45.0 to 33.6, and have turned the ball over 16.6 times per contest. The only area they've been decent is in forcing turnovers, with 8.0 steals and 14.0 turnovers forced per game.


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FIU Golden Panthers

FIU has been impressive thus far in the 2019-20 campaign, coming off a blowout win over Cleveland State and a pair of close road losses to Mississippi State and NC State. The Golden Panthers are coming off a 2018-19 season where they went 20-14, just their third 20-win season in school history, and 10-8 in C-USA play under their first year coach, Jeremy Ballard. They earned a CIT berth for their play, where they advanced to the 2nd round. Year 2 of the Ballard era promises to be even better.

FIU's strengths begin in the frontcourt. 6-6 redshirt senior Devon Andrews, initially a Kent State recruit, is off to a great start with a team-leading 17.0 ppg. He's shooting .568 from the field and .383 from three and 4.3 rpg. Another senior big man, 6-9 Osasumwen Osaghae, has been a solid offensive presence and dominant defensive force, with 12.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, and is # 2 in the nation in blocks, with 4.5 per game.

In the backcourt, 5-8 junior point guard Tevin Brewer operates as the floor general for the Golden Panthers. Brewer is tied for third on the team in scoring at 9.8 ppg and has dished out 5.8 assists per contest. He's also shooting .474 from the perimeter. 6-5 senior Trejon Jacob does a little bit of everything, averaging 9.8 ppg, 4.3 rebounds and 2.8 steals. Finally, 6-1 sophomore Antonio Daye, Jr. rounds out the starting lineup, where he's averaging 7.3 ppg and has racked up 5.8 assists per contest.

FIU boasts a bevy of perimeter shooters. In addition to Andrews, Brewer and Jacob, 6-1 Cameron Corcoran has come off the bench to shoot a team-leading .563 from three, while 6-5 wing Eric Lovett has shot .474. As a team, FIU is shooting 48-108 (.444) from the perimeter, which ranks 12th in the nation.

"Three and D" has been the approach of the Golden Panthers, who have blocked 8 shots per game as a team, swiped 10.5 steals per contest and allowed opponents to shoot just .282 from the perimeter. Their ball movement has been impressive as well, as they average 20.3 assists as a team compared to just 12.0 for opponents.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
Looks like a perfect opportunity to continue the press.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
Hope the defense plays well y’all.
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(11-20-2019 01:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Looks like a perfect opportunity to continue the press.

Yep. It likely would work well against CSU. It would be an absolute necessity against FIU, who will likely be sending the ball into the post at will in half court sets then dishing out for open 3's if we double down.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
Interesting to see the Eastern Kentucky is the fourth team, that we don't play in DC. Checked in on Ty Taylor. He's playing more this year but nothing that jumps off the page. His averages seem to be lifted up by 2 good performances against non-D1 opponents.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...-taylor-ii
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.
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(11-20-2019 03:10 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.

Easy...... baby steps lol
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82 is starting a movement and l like it!
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
(11-20-2019 03:10 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.
Picking up full court M-M with Tolefree, Toews, Phillips, Okauru, Estime can be just as effective. Especially if you are working to deny the PG the pass and make someone else bring it up by putting another man on the inbounds passer. Zone Presses are less effective when you are retreating to M-M as opposed to lets say a 1-2-2 to shave seconds off the clock and back into a 3-2 Zone. Pretty hard to play an effective 2-3 these days unless you are Boeheim at Syracuse or his disciple Hopkins at Washington, where they trap the wings and adjust their rotations based on the opposing teams strengths.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 03:10 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.
Picking up full court M-M with Tolefree, Toews, Phillips, Okauru, Estime can be just as effective. Especially if you are working to deny the PG the pass and make someone else bring it up by putting another man on the inbounds passer. Zone Presses are less effective when you are retreating to M-M as opposed to lets say a 1-2-2 to shave seconds off the clock and back into a 3-2 Zone. Pretty hard to play an effective 2-3 these days unless you are Boeheim at Syracuse or his disciple Hopkins at Washington, where they trap the wings and adjust their rotations based on the opposing teams strengths.

I like the idea of a full court M-M, especially since it is obvious that coach wants this team to be successful in M-M. As you're saying, that would make the most sense and alleviate a lot of confusion once we the full court is broken and we are in the half court set.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
(11-21-2019 09:43 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 03:10 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.
Picking up full court M-M with Tolefree, Toews, Phillips, Okauru, Estime can be just as effective. Especially if you are working to deny the PG the pass and make someone else bring it up by putting another man on the inbounds passer. Zone Presses are less effective when you are retreating to M-M as opposed to lets say a 1-2-2 to shave seconds off the clock and back into a 3-2 Zone. Pretty hard to play an effective 2-3 these days unless you are Boeheim at Syracuse or his disciple Hopkins at Washington, where they trap the wings and adjust their rotations based on the opposing teams strengths.

I like the idea of a full court M-M, especially since it is obvious that coach wants this team to be successful in M-M. As you're saying, that would make the most sense and alleviate a lot of confusion once we the full court is broken and we are in the half court set.
And, you can still trap in a M2M.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
(11-21-2019 09:43 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 03:10 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.
Picking up full court M-M with Tolefree, Toews, Phillips, Okauru, Estime can be just as effective. Especially if you are working to deny the PG the pass and make someone else bring it up by putting another man on the inbounds passer. Zone Presses are less effective when you are retreating to M-M as opposed to lets say a 1-2-2 to shave seconds off the clock and back into a 3-2 Zone. Pretty hard to play an effective 2-3 these days unless you are Boeheim at Syracuse or his disciple Hopkins at Washington, where they trap the wings and adjust their rotations based on the opposing teams strengths.

I like the idea of a full court M-M, especially since it is obvious that coach wants this team to be successful in M-M. As you're saying, that would make the most sense and alleviate a lot of confusion once we the full court is broken and we are in the half court set.
Especially if we continue to play 10 players. Might as well exhaust them. You don't hustle and defend, you don't play! That will at least solve the 10 man rotation problem as I see it.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
(11-21-2019 10:25 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:43 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 03:10 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.
Picking up full court M-M with Tolefree, Toews, Phillips, Okauru, Estime can be just as effective. Especially if you are working to deny the PG the pass and make someone else bring it up by putting another man on the inbounds passer. Zone Presses are less effective when you are retreating to M-M as opposed to lets say a 1-2-2 to shave seconds off the clock and back into a 3-2 Zone. Pretty hard to play an effective 2-3 these days unless you are Boeheim at Syracuse or his disciple Hopkins at Washington, where they trap the wings and adjust their rotations based on the opposing teams strengths.

I like the idea of a full court M-M, especially since it is obvious that coach wants this team to be successful in M-M. As you're saying, that would make the most sense and alleviate a lot of confusion once we the full court is broken and we are in the half court set.
And, you can still trap in a M2M.
Yeah. Trap the first pass in the backcourt with the inbounds defender.
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
(11-21-2019 10:26 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 10:25 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:43 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 03:10 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I would like to see a press become "who we are" not "what we do" sometimes when needed. Its an aggressive stance that dictates how a game is played and energizes a team offensively and defensively. Pressing every once in awhile is useless.
Picking up full court M-M with Tolefree, Toews, Phillips, Okauru, Estime can be just as effective. Especially if you are working to deny the PG the pass and make someone else bring it up by putting another man on the inbounds passer. Zone Presses are less effective when you are retreating to M-M as opposed to lets say a 1-2-2 to shave seconds off the clock and back into a 3-2 Zone. Pretty hard to play an effective 2-3 these days unless you are Boeheim at Syracuse or his disciple Hopkins at Washington, where they trap the wings and adjust their rotations based on the opposing teams strengths.

I like the idea of a full court M-M, especially since it is obvious that coach wants this team to be successful in M-M. As you're saying, that would make the most sense and alleviate a lot of confusion once we the full court is broken and we are in the half court set.
And, you can still trap in a M2M.
Yeah. Trap the first pass in the backcourt with the inbounds defender.
Yup. Can hedge on a trap towards halfcourt too, unless they send a bunch of guys way back.
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(11-21-2019 10:30 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 10:26 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 10:25 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:43 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  Picking up full court M-M with Tolefree, Toews, Phillips, Okauru, Estime can be just as effective. Especially if you are working to deny the PG the pass and make someone else bring it up by putting another man on the inbounds passer. Zone Presses are less effective when you are retreating to M-M as opposed to lets say a 1-2-2 to shave seconds off the clock and back into a 3-2 Zone. Pretty hard to play an effective 2-3 these days unless you are Boeheim at Syracuse or his disciple Hopkins at Washington, where they trap the wings and adjust their rotations based on the opposing teams strengths.

I like the idea of a full court M-M, especially since it is obvious that coach wants this team to be successful in M-M. As you're saying, that would make the most sense and alleviate a lot of confusion once we the full court is broken and we are in the half court set.
And, you can still trap in a M2M.
Yeah. Trap the first pass in the backcourt with the inbounds defender.
Yup. Can hedge on a trap towards halfcourt too, unless they send a bunch of guys way back.

One thing I noticed in the Wesleyan game is that Burke was the coach that was up and being vocal about where the players were supposed to be when they pressed. Though they didn't try much trapping or guarding the inbounds, he seems to be the guy coaching the press. It was primarily a zone press.
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(11-21-2019 11:18 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 10:30 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 10:26 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 10:25 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(11-21-2019 09:43 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I like the idea of a full court M-M, especially since it is obvious that coach wants this team to be successful in M-M. As you're saying, that would make the most sense and alleviate a lot of confusion once we the full court is broken and we are in the half court set.
And, you can still trap in a M2M.
Yeah. Trap the first pass in the backcourt with the inbounds defender.
Yup. Can hedge on a trap towards halfcourt too, unless they send a bunch of guys way back.

One thing I noticed in the Wesleyan game is that Burke was the coach that was up and being vocal about where the players were supposed to be when they pressed. Though they didn't try much trapping or guarding the inbounds, he seems to be the guy coaching the press. It was primarily a zone press.
Zone presses IMO are more effective, especially at getting traps. However, it's harder to fall back into M2M.
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https://uncwsports.com/news/2019/11/21/m...trict.aspx

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Seahawks Eye Two Games In District

WILMINGTON, North Carolina – The Seahawks rolled up big numbers on the Trask Coliseum scoreboard in Tuesday's 60-point romp over N.C. Wesleyan and hope to carry that momentum into the nation's capital this weekend as the Battle for the Capital Tournament moves to a neutral site.

Coach C.B. McGrath's club dispatched the Battling Bishops, 113-53, in the first of two on-campus games in the tourney. The Seahawks will also face Emory & Henry on Tuesday (Nov. 26) in the final game associated with the event.

In between, UNCW meets Cleveland State on Friday and Florida International on Saturday in a pair of 1 p.m. matchups at the new DC Sports & Entertainment Arena. The Colonial Athletic Association Men's Basketball Championship begins a three-year run at the facility on March 7-10, 2020.

"Having a chance to play where the CAA Tournament is being held was appealing to us," said McGrath. "It's a good opportunity for to us to play in the facility where we'll play in March. Cleveland State and Florida International will give us a different look than what we've seen so far. We look forward to going there for the competition."

UNCW will be facing CSU for the first time and owns a 2-0 mark vs. Miami-based Florida International following a pair of games in the early 90s. The Seahawks edged the Panthers, 61-60, in the series opener on Dec. 4, 1992, in Fairfield, Conn., and then tacked on a 46-44 verdict on Dec. 4, 1993, in the first game of the Golden Panther Invitational in Miami.

UNCW stands 3-2 on the season after the lopsided victory over NCWC. The Seahawks are averaging 81.6 points per game behind double digit scorers Jaylen Sims (17.2) and Shykeim Phillips (12.2).

Friday's clash with the Vikings kicks off a busy stretch for the Seahawks, who tackle five games in a 10-day span.

This weekend's games will be carried over the air on The Breeze, 95.9 FM, with play-by-play voice Mike Vaccaro on the call, which can be heard anywhere in the world on the station's website, http://www.959thebreeze.com. Video will be provided on FloHoops for a monthly/annual subscription at http://www.FloHoops.com.
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I just want the most effectiive press available, regardless of formation. I want McGrath tallying steals, deflections and TO's we cause. I want him completely focused on our defensive stats from a press and setting goals for individuals and the team. I want a sold out coach and sold out players who take pride in disruption. M2m, zone, diamond, whatever works. I want to get excited about this team and I want to see the players excited to be on the court imposing their will on an opponent.
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Ty Gadsden traveled with the team. Might not mean anything, but it could mean he’s close to a return
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RE: Cleveland St. / FIU (11/22 @ 1 PM; 11/23 @ 1 PM)
Hawks favored by 7 points but that means nothing. At least the Hawks have some consistent scorers this year thus far.

I agree with playing hard defense with a purpose. Deflections is a key stat and I too would love to see a defensive identity established like 82 wrote. And, I love to see some of the stuff that Hawking was writing too. Defense should be a playing time decider at this point. You would ideally like to have both with each player but that's a work in progress.

Tolafree earned more minutes in the last game and needs to bring that defensive intensity every night. Sims has to play good minutes as he has been good all year. Kai and Phillips need to play good minutes too. The bigs have to step up and claim their spots/time. The other wings have to earn their time now. Each can score on a given night now who will step up their overall game?

Hawks have to get a split on this trip and hopefully come out good tomorrow. If they do and build momentum, they have a much better shot on Saturday. I'm looking for improved play regardless and it starts on defense. And, they have to finish off defensive possessions with a board too. Guys have to play hard and pursue the ball.
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