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(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

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They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?
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(03-06-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

[Image: ESYjmssUYAA9GEN?format=jpg&name=medium]

They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?

The seeds for the AACT can change a lot on Sunday. Assuming they beat Tulane on Sunday, that would get them to 19-12. Also assuming that they remain the #7 seed, they would play #10 UCF on Thursday. That could give them #2 Houston, again, on Friday, with #3 Cincinnati/#4 Wichita State winner on Saturday, followed by #1 Tulsa/#5 Memphis/#6 SMU grouping in the AAC Championship game. Again, seeds can all move around depending on results on Sunday.

Regardless, beating UCF gets them to 20-12; if they could beat Houston again, that gets them to 21-12. I think that absolutely gets them on the bubble, but - given where Wichita/Cincinnati currently are - it's likely they are still out. They would, at minimum, need to get to the AAC Championship game, but only winning the tournament would guarantee an NCAA Tournament spot.

Stranger things have happened. UConn, as a #9 seed, won the 2011 BET (and NC). What a send-off from the AAC that would be!
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(03-06-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

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They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?

The seeds for the AACT can change a lot on Sunday. Assuming they beat Tulane on Sunday, that would get them to 19-12. Also assuming that they remain the #7 seed, they would play #10 UCF on Thursday. That could give them #2 Houston, again, on Friday, with #3 Cincinnati/#4 Wichita State winner on Saturday, followed by #1 Tulsa/#5 Memphis/#6 SMU grouping in the AAC Championship game. Again, seeds can all move around depending on results on Sunday.

Regardless, beating UCF gets them to 20-12; if they could beat Houston again, that gets them to 21-12. I think that absolutely gets them on the bubble, but - given where Wichita/Cincinnati currently are - it's likely they are still out. They would, at minimum, need to get to the AAC Championship game, but only winning the tournament would guarantee an NCAA Tournament spot.

Stranger things have happened. UConn, as a #9 seed, won the 2011 BET (and NC). What a send-off from the AAC that would be!
Your seeds are off. Would be Houston, but then Cincy/SMU next, and then Tulsa/Wichita/Memphis.

Also if Cincy beats Temple, Houston beats Memphis, and Tulsa loses to Wichita
Cincy 1 seed, Houston 2 seed, and Tulsa 3 seed.

So as 7 seed-
UCF, then Houston, then Tulsa/Memphis, and then Cincy/Wichita/SMU. Quite the road....
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(03-06-2020 10:30 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

[Image: ESYjmssUYAA9GEN?format=jpg&name=medium]

They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?

The seeds for the AACT can change a lot on Sunday. Assuming they beat Tulane on Sunday, that would get them to 19-12. Also assuming that they remain the #7 seed, they would play #10 UCF on Thursday. That could give them #2 Houston, again, on Friday, with #3 Cincinnati/#4 Wichita State winner on Saturday, followed by #1 Tulsa/#5 Memphis/#6 SMU grouping in the AAC Championship game. Again, seeds can all move around depending on results on Sunday.

Regardless, beating UCF gets them to 20-12; if they could beat Houston again, that gets them to 21-12. I think that absolutely gets them on the bubble, but - given where Wichita/Cincinnati currently are - it's likely they are still out. They would, at minimum, need to get to the AAC Championship game, but only winning the tournament would guarantee an NCAA Tournament spot.

Stranger things have happened. UConn, as a #9 seed, won the 2011 BET (and NC). What a send-off from the AAC that would be!
Your seeds are off. Would be Houston, but then Cincy/SMU next, and then Tulsa/Wichita/Memphis.

Also if Cincy beats Temple, Houston beats Memphis, and Tulsa loses to Wichita
Cincy 1 seed, Houston 2 seed, and Tulsa 3 seed.

So as 7 seed-
UCF, then Houston, then Tulsa/Memphis, and then Cincy/Wichita/SMU. Quite the road....

Isn't Tulsa in first today? If they beat Wichita State on Sunday, that guarantees them the #1 seed.
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(03-06-2020 11:15 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 10:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 10:30 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

[Image: ESYjmssUYAA9GEN?format=jpg&name=medium]

They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?

The seeds for the AACT can change a lot on Sunday. Assuming they beat Tulane on Sunday, that would get them to 19-12. Also assuming that they remain the #7 seed, they would play #10 UCF on Thursday. That could give them #2 Houston, again, on Friday, with #3 Cincinnati/#4 Wichita State winner on Saturday, followed by #1 Tulsa/#5 Memphis/#6 SMU grouping in the AAC Championship game. Again, seeds can all move around depending on results on Sunday.

Regardless, beating UCF gets them to 20-12; if they could beat Houston again, that gets them to 21-12. I think that absolutely gets them on the bubble, but - given where Wichita/Cincinnati currently are - it's likely they are still out. They would, at minimum, need to get to the AAC Championship game, but only winning the tournament would guarantee an NCAA Tournament spot.

Stranger things have happened. UConn, as a #9 seed, won the 2011 BET (and NC). What a send-off from the AAC that would be!
Your seeds are off. Would be Houston, but then Cincy/SMU next, and then Tulsa/Wichita/Memphis.

Also if Cincy beats Temple, Houston beats Memphis, and Tulsa loses to Wichita
Cincy 1 seed, Houston 2 seed, and Tulsa 3 seed.

So as 7 seed-
UCF, then Houston, then Tulsa/Memphis, and then Cincy/Wichita/SMU. Quite the road....

Isn't Tulsa in first today? If they beat Wichita State on Sunday, that guarantees them the #1 seed.

Right Tulsa is in 1st today. UConn as 7 seed would play 10 seed 1st, then 2 seed, then 3/6/11, then 1/4/5/8/9.
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(03-06-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

[Image: ESYjmssUYAA9GEN?format=jpg&name=medium]

They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?

A "brutal run looming in the AAC tourney"?

I disagree, S20. The tourney is wide open because there are no strong teams. Lots of good, solid, competitive teams ... but I just don't see "brutal stretch" for any team in the AAC tourney. Almost any one of the 12 could win it.
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(03-06-2020 12:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

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They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?

A "brutal run looming in the AAC tourney"?

I disagree, S20. The tourney is wide open because there are no strong teams. Lots of good, solid, competitive teams ... but I just don't see "brutal stretch" for any team in the AAC tourney. Almost any one of the 12 could win it.

Well, minus Tulane/ECU/USF/UCF, of course - which is par for the course indeed.
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(03-06-2020 12:58 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-06-2020 09:59 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Savage. UConn is the hottest team in the AAC. Looking forward to seeing what they can do to finish out their last week the American.

[Image: ESYjmssUYAA9GEN?format=jpg&name=medium]

They have a brutal run looming in the AAC tourney. Like quite possibly Tulane, Wichita St, Cincy, and then Houston/Memphis.

The question would be if they could beat Wichita and Cincy and make the final, would that be enough?

A "brutal run looming in the AAC tourney"?

I disagree, S20. The tourney is wide open because there are no strong teams. Lots of good, solid, competitive teams ... but I just don't see "brutal stretch" for any team in the AAC tourney. Almost any one of the 12 could win it.

Well, minus Tulane/ECU/USF/UCF, of course - which is par for the course indeed.


Actually, I would not be stunned to see either USF or UCF win it all (I would be surprised but not shocked). Agree with you on ECU and Tulane. If either of those two win the tourney, I will officially term the AAC as the most sad of the 10 or so leagues that are either power or major.
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poor GW11... down 12-2 to St John's already...

hey, maybe DePaul will have a shot in the 7/10 game.

You do wonder if Marquette loses like this today, and loses on Wednesday, are they out? Maybe with a bid thief or 2?
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Nova with a quick 2 TD lead today.
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A disheartening loss for Georgetown today. Up four with a minute to go and GU gets outscored 5-0 for a one-point loss to a fine Nova team. I hate it for Big Pat.

Some stats of note from the game.

* Only six Hoyas played (you don't see that very often as, typically, a coach will play at least seven players)

* Relatedly to the first stat ... four GU players played 40 minutes. Very uncommon but understandable given only six Hoyas played.

* In addition to the four who played 40 minutes, the other two players played 30 mins and 10 mins, respectively. As such, of the six GU players who saw action, each played a number of minutes that is a multiple of 10. That RARELY happens.

No OY or MM (again) for GU.

It has been a tough season for the Hoyas.
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(03-07-2020 12:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  poor GW11... down 12-2 to St John's already...

hey, maybe DePaul will have a shot in the 7/10 game.

You do wonder if Marquette loses like this today, and loses on Wednesday, are they out? Maybe with a bid thief or 2?

Right now, we absolutely do not deserve a tournament bid. There should be an unwritten rule about a team losing its last 5 games not being eligible. Other than Howard, we are simply awful.

Two straight seasons of absolute collapse. That's the sort of thing that can spurn a coaching change. No Hausers to blame this year.
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(03-07-2020 04:30 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2020 12:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  poor GW11... down 12-2 to St John's already...

hey, maybe DePaul will have a shot in the 7/10 game.

You do wonder if Marquette loses like this today, and loses on Wednesday, are they out? Maybe with a bid thief or 2?

Right now, we absolutely do not deserve a tournament bid. There should be an unwritten rule about a team losing its last 5 games not being eligible. Other than Howard, we are simply awful.

Two straight seasons of absolute collapse. That's the sort of thing that can spurn a coaching change. No Hausers to blame this year.

one thing Marquette has gotten lucky that some teams have been losing. Things could be a lot more dire for Marquette. Maybe knowing Wednesday could be it helps them out?
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(03-07-2020 04:30 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2020 12:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  poor GW11... down 12-2 to St John's already...

hey, maybe DePaul will have a shot in the 7/10 game.

You do wonder if Marquette loses like this today, and loses on Wednesday, are they out? Maybe with a bid thief or 2?

Right now, we absolutely do not deserve a tournament bid. There should be an unwritten rule about a team losing its last 5 games not being eligible. Other than Howard, we are simply awful.

Two straight seasons of absolute collapse. That's the sort of thing that can spurn a coaching change. No Hausers to blame this year.

one thing Marquette has gotten lucky that some teams have been losing. Things could be a lot more dire for Marquette. Maybe knowing Wednesday could be it helps them out?

Unfortunately, we are playing like the 10th team at the moment. We lost to the 9th and 10th place teams this week. There's no one we can play in the BET that can help us out. It is what it is.
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(03-07-2020 05:11 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2020 04:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(03-07-2020 04:30 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(03-07-2020 12:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  poor GW11... down 12-2 to St John's already...

hey, maybe DePaul will have a shot in the 7/10 game.

You do wonder if Marquette loses like this today, and loses on Wednesday, are they out? Maybe with a bid thief or 2?

Right now, we absolutely do not deserve a tournament bid. There should be an unwritten rule about a team losing its last 5 games not being eligible. Other than Howard, we are simply awful.

Two straight seasons of absolute collapse. That's the sort of thing that can spurn a coaching change. No Hausers to blame this year.

one thing Marquette has gotten lucky that some teams have been losing. Things could be a lot more dire for Marquette. Maybe knowing Wednesday could be it helps them out?

Unfortunately, we are playing like the 10th team at the moment. We lost to the 9th and 10th place teams this week. There's no one we can play in the BET that can help us out. It is what it is.

Wasn't Xavier kind of in this same situation a few years ago? Won 1st rd BET game, and then exhaled, and then made the elite 8.
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(03-07-2020 12:15 PM)stever20 Wrote:  poor GW11... down 12-2 to St John's already...

hey, maybe DePaul will have a shot in the 7/10 game.

You do wonder if Marquette loses like this today, and loses on Wednesday, are they out? Maybe with a bid thief or 2?

Right now, we absolutely do not deserve a tournament bid. There should be an unwritten rule about a team losing its last 5 games not being eligible. Other than Howard, we are simply awful.

Two straight seasons of absolute collapse. That's the sort of thing that can spurn a coaching change. No Hausers to blame this year.


I feel MU will deserve an NCAA tourney bid with one win in the BE tourney. But if you lose right off the bat ...

Hang in there. Your season could take a quick turn for the better with a BE tourney run.
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(03-07-2020 03:01 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  A disheartening loss for Georgetown today. Up four with a minute to go and GU gets outscored 5-0 for a one-point loss to a fine Nova team. I hate it for Big Pat.

Some stats of note from the game.

* Only six Hoyas played (you don't see that very often as, typically, a coach will play at least seven players)

* Relatedly to the first stat ... four GU players played 40 minutes. Very uncommon but understandable given only six Hoyas played.

* In addition to the four who played 40 minutes, the other two players played 30 mins and 10 mins, respectively. As such, of the six GU players who saw action, each played a number of minutes that is a multiple of 10. That RARELY happens.

No OY or MM (again) for GU.

It has been a tough season for the Hoyas.

Always appreciate the support of non alums, thanks Bill.

Today's game was reminiscent of many of last year's close losses at first. Then I took a deep breath and reminded myself of everything this team has been through. We had no business even being in that position against 'Nova but for the heart of our players and Big Pat. Heartbreaking, but acceptable to me. I like this group more than any since Otto.

Thank you to Jagan, Terrell, George and (hopefully not) Omer. You'll always be Hoyas!
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For Butler tonight is a huge win. Likely takes any chance of a 7-8 seed out of the equation. I know we focus so much on the bubble, but this is just as huge.
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Xavier's streak of 37 straight conference seasons at or above .500 ends tonight. An incredible record, one that I don't know if you ever see matched. Not by someone in as good of conferences as Xavier has been in.
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(03-07-2020 07:53 PM)VCE Wrote:  
(03-07-2020 03:01 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  A disheartening loss for Georgetown today. Up four with a minute to go and GU gets outscored 5-0 for a one-point loss to a fine Nova team. I hate it for Big Pat.

Some stats of note from the game.

* Only six Hoyas played (you don't see that very often as, typically, a coach will play at least seven players)

* Relatedly to the first stat ... four GU players played 40 minutes. Very uncommon but understandable given only six Hoyas played.

* In addition to the four who played 40 minutes, the other two players played 30 mins and 10 mins, respectively. As such, of the six GU players who saw action, each played a number of minutes that is a multiple of 10. That RARELY happens.

No OY or MM (again) for GU.

It has been a tough season for the Hoyas.

Always appreciate the support of non alums, thanks Bill.

Today's game was reminiscent of many of last year's close losses at first. Then I took a deep breath and reminded myself of everything this team has been through. We had no business even being in that position against 'Nova but for the heart of our players and Big Pat. Heartbreaking, but acceptable to me. I like this group more than any since Otto.

Thank you to Jagan, Terrell, George and (hopefully not) Omer. You'll always be Hoyas!


I'm sure you are very proud of this team (players and coaches), VCE. They never quit. I've been very impressed with the fight and grit.

Good luck in the tourney. I will be rooting for GU almost as much as I will be cheering for DePaul.
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