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RE: 2019 official Bowl Thread
(12-09-2019 09:13 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 08:46 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(12-08-2019 04:31 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Have NO interest. 7-5 ISU.

Maybe I should scout our next coach (maybe).

Notre Dame got hosed by the CFP and the awful ACC bowl lineup.

The three teams ranked immediately *behind* them in the AP poll are playing #11 Penn State in the Cotton Bowl, #9 Auburn in the Outback Bowl, and #10 Alabama in the Citrus Bowl.

How? They’re splitting almost 6 million and they aren’t a football member. If they wanted a NY6 bowl, then they shouldn’t have been torched by a mediocre Michigan squad.

Listing the Cotton Bowl isn’t a fair comparison, it’s the glorious G5 tie-in. Again, you’re listing Big Ten tie-ins that have existed for 20 plus years. The Irish rejected that league at least twice in that timespan; they made their bed.

Now if you want to talk about how underwhelming the Camping World Bowl sounds, fine. Its origins as the first corporate sellout bowl make it totally tepid in the headlines, but the money is there. They should have stuck with Tangerine when they had the chance, or even the Sunshine Classic.

We all know what the various contracts say. So when I say ND is being "screwed" it's not in a legal-contractual sense.

Just in terms of what they merit based on performance 'on the field'. This year has revealed the flaws in their ties to the power-weak ACC.

Basically, for ND it's like the sales 'rewards' Alec Baldwin announces in Glengary-Glenross, something like "first prize is a trip to hawaii, second prize is a set of steak knives, third prize is you're fired".

That's the ACC bowl lineup. Go unbeaten or play in the Camping Bowl, a third-tier bowl, at 10-2.

It’s all perception. The RV Bowl has a rather large payout outside the NY6 and it’s in Orlando, not a horrible trip for a family. With ND’s national fan base, they’ll be just fine.

Only the Texas, Holiday, Alamo, Outback, and Citrus rank ahead of it.

The ACC has had the Citrus and now the Outback, but I don’t remember how they get a team in there like ND.

The only way the ACC gets the Outback starting next year is a year where Big Ten takes Orange slot. So next 6 years at most only 3 of those times possible(and that would require Big Ten team to beat SEC team).
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(12-09-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Here's the thing though. Unless you are in the SEC or Big Ten- if you don't make a NY6 game- your bowl game isn't going to be good....

look at where 2nd place teams go
ACC- Camping World
Big Ten- Citrus
Big 12- Alamo
Pac 12- Alamo
SEC- Citrus

Now you could say ACC is less than the others as 2nd place teams play each other. But it's not a huge difference.

San Antonio is a good bowl.
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Of the 35 G5 and Independents other than Notre Dame, 28 (80 percent) are playing each other, while Memphis, Navy, Cincinnati, Louisiana Tech, Eastern Michigan, Boise State, and Air Force are playing P5 teams.
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(12-08-2019 11:20 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Was really hoping for a vacation trip to Nashville or Florida. No offense to our southern neighbors but Houston just isn’t a great bowl destination. Just gonna watch this one on TV. (Yes I know they tabbed A&M for this one in hopes that all the hometown Houston Ags buy tickets and that’s not a bad strategy but definitely a let down for those of us who don’t live in Houston)

Houston isn't a typical tourist town, but if you can't have fun there, you aren't trying.
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(12-09-2019 09:31 AM)EvanJ Wrote:  Of the 35 G5 and Independents other than Notre Dame, 28 (80 percent) are playing each other, while Memphis, Navy, Cincinnati, Louisiana Tech, Eastern Michigan, Boise State, and Air Force are playing P5 teams.

Temple's got UNC.
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RE: 2019 official Bowl Thread
(12-09-2019 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Here's the thing though. Unless you are in the SEC or Big Ten- if you don't make a NY6 game- your bowl game isn't going to be good....

look at where 2nd place teams go
ACC- Camping World
Big Ten- Citrus
Big 12- Alamo
Pac 12- Alamo
SEC- Citrus

Now you could say ACC is less than the others as 2nd place teams play each other. But it's not a huge difference.

San Antonio is a good bowl.

It's not on a good date. Should be on Jan. 1.
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RE: 2019 official Bowl Thread
(12-09-2019 12:41 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Here's the thing though. Unless you are in the SEC or Big Ten- if you don't make a NY6 game- your bowl game isn't going to be good....

look at where 2nd place teams go
ACC- Camping World
Big Ten- Citrus
Big 12- Alamo
Pac 12- Alamo
SEC- Citrus

Now you could say ACC is less than the others as 2nd place teams play each other. But it's not a huge difference.

San Antonio is a good bowl.

It's not on a good date. Should be on Jan. 1.

Jan 1 is never going to be what it used to be. Period. Going to have 4 or 5 bowls, max.
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RE: 2019 official Bowl Thread
(12-09-2019 12:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 12:41 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Here's the thing though. Unless you are in the SEC or Big Ten- if you don't make a NY6 game- your bowl game isn't going to be good....

look at where 2nd place teams go
ACC- Camping World
Big Ten- Citrus
Big 12- Alamo
Pac 12- Alamo
SEC- Citrus

Now you could say ACC is less than the others as 2nd place teams play each other. But it's not a huge difference.

San Antonio is a good bowl.

It's not on a good date. Should be on Jan. 1.

Jan 1 is never going to be what it used to be. Period. Going to have 4 or 5 bowls, max.

If the playoff ever goes to 8, they need to have a Jan 1 quadruple-header.
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RE: 2019 official Bowl Thread
(12-08-2019 08:54 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(12-08-2019 08:44 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-08-2019 08:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-07-2019 08:00 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  
(12-01-2019 01:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I sure hope so. I got tickets, would love to see Navy play say Miami in Annapolis in snowy 25 degree weather.

I doubt it. You usually put your top ranked teams in the highest paying bowls.
Cincy should wind up in that game. The Military pays a little over $1m per school, which is the highest AAC tie-in.
Navy should wind up in the next highest, the TicketMaster Birmingham Bowl (vs. SEC school) which pays about $850K.

The third one by pay out is the Gasparilla Bowl, followed by the Cheribundi Boca Raton and R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowls.

But we'll see what they decide.

Cincy played in the Military Bowl last year, so that probably means they don't go this year.

I hope, and think, Navy plays in it, but as you say we shall see.

I know a segment of Navy fans hoping for the Liberty Bowl in the AAC backup slot.

Rumor mill is that Liberty likes Navy and the last time they were they brought a large contingent of fans.

Im sure the Naval base near Memphis helps with the turnout as well.
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RE: 2019 official Bowl Thread
(12-09-2019 12:51 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 12:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 12:41 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Here's the thing though. Unless you are in the SEC or Big Ten- if you don't make a NY6 game- your bowl game isn't going to be good....

look at where 2nd place teams go
ACC- Camping World
Big Ten- Citrus
Big 12- Alamo
Pac 12- Alamo
SEC- Citrus

Now you could say ACC is less than the others as 2nd place teams play each other. But it's not a huge difference.

San Antonio is a good bowl.

It's not on a good date. Should be on Jan. 1.

Jan 1 is never going to be what it used to be. Period. Going to have 4 or 5 bowls, max.

If the playoff ever goes to 8, they need to have a Jan 1 quadruple-header.

Exactly.
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RE: 2019 official Bowl Thread
(12-09-2019 12:51 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 12:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 12:41 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(12-09-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Here's the thing though. Unless you are in the SEC or Big Ten- if you don't make a NY6 game- your bowl game isn't going to be good....

look at where 2nd place teams go
ACC- Camping World
Big Ten- Citrus
Big 12- Alamo
Pac 12- Alamo
SEC- Citrus

Now you could say ACC is less than the others as 2nd place teams play each other. But it's not a huge difference.

San Antonio is a good bowl.

It's not on a good date. Should be on Jan. 1.

Jan 1 is never going to be what it used to be. Period. Going to have 4 or 5 bowls, max.

If the playoff ever goes to 8, they need to have a Jan 1 quadruple-header.

really don't see it. I don't think they are moving the title game any later than it already is.
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