(11-15-2019 03:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:29 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 02:56 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 02:47 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 02:39 PM)UMTiger117 Wrote:  suspense is killing me.

Don't expect it to be quick. Munz said 10-14 days. I assume that 10-14 days started yesterday. In 10 days we will have played our 3 game without Wiseman. In 14 days we will have played our 4th game. I suspect the punishment is longer than that so it really doesn't matter except for the annoying wait.

I heard it's coming today or tomorrow.

I didn't.

Come one man...

Don't tease...Either don't post or spill

Soon. But not today or tomorrow soon. Recruiting news tomorrow but not Wiseman news.

(11-15-2019 04:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Memphis officials are optimistic Wiseman will miss fewer than the nine games prescribed under the NCAA’s impermissible benefits rules, sources have told The Athletic.

“The hope is he misses three, maybe six games,” one source with knowledge of the situation said.

I think 4

I think the initial number is 9 and it's talked down to 6. Either way for Wiseman's sake I just hope it's settled soon.

Yeah about what about the punishment Memphis will get for playing Wiseman while ineligible? Forfeited games?

(11-15-2019 04:03 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Memphis officials are optimistic Wiseman will miss fewer than the nine games prescribed under the NCAA’s impermissible benefits rules, sources have told The Athletic.

“The hope is he misses three, maybe six games,” one source with knowledge of the situation said.

I think 4

I think the initial number is 9 and it's talked down to 6. Either way for Wiseman's sake I just hope it's settled soon.

Do you think they are going to play that game when they already have agreed on a number?

Initially give 9 then we appeal and get the number we originally negotiated.

And how are forfeited games looked upon by the selection committee come tournament time? Are they as bad as losses.. or something less, as in the games aren't even considered? Has there ever been an example where a team going to the NCAA tournament had forfeitures on their resume, or will this be another first for Memphis?

Correction: not forfeited.. but vacated is a more appropriate term to use for the games. Doesn't sound as bad.

He needs to be back by the UT game. Hopefully only 3 or 4 games.

(11-15-2019 04:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Memphis officials are optimistic Wiseman will miss fewer than the nine games prescribed under the NCAA’s impermissible benefits rules, sources have told The Athletic.

“The hope is he misses three, maybe six games,” one source with knowledge of the situation said.

I think 4

It's usually as a percentage of games; 10/20/30%.
So 3.1 games, 6.2 games or 9.3 games. They don't know about rounding down. So that becomes 4, 7 or 10. I expect it comes in at either 10 or 7 and they bump it down one level in appeal so 10 to 7 or 7 to 4.

(11-15-2019 04:10 PM)Indigo Wrote:  And how are forfeited games looked upon by the selection committee come tournament time? Are they as bad as losses.. or something less, as in the games aren't even considered? Has there ever been an example where a team going to the NCAA tournament had forfeitures on their resume, or will this be another first for Memphis?

The committee is evaluating the team based on their strength.

If they can take into account an injured player...I am sure we wont be punished if we have to forfeit the first 3 games.

Also we should also get a little cushion if we stumble while Wiseman is out.

I have zero information, but I wouldn't hold my breath. We've already pissed them off, I doubt they go too far out of their way to accommodate us.

(11-15-2019 04:07 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:03 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Memphis officials are optimistic Wiseman will miss fewer than the nine games prescribed under the NCAA’s impermissible benefits rules, sources have told The Athletic.

“The hope is he misses three, maybe six games,” one source with knowledge of the situation said.

I think 4

I think the initial number is 9 and it's talked down to 6. Either way for Wiseman's sake I just hope it's settled soon.

Do you think they are going to play that game when they already have agreed on a number?

Initially give 9 then we appeal and get the number we originally negotiated.

I think it will be like the Ohio St treatment. Ohio St. never officially appealed. It was also never really officially announced that it was going to be 4 games just sources said they heard it would be 4 games. I'm sure there were negotiations going on where 4 was probably the first number and then it was negotiated down to 2.

Now I don't know if that's what is going on here or what, but the rule is a 1/3 of the season which would be 10, but I've thought 9 all along with it being negotiated down to something like 6 or 7

(11-15-2019 04:06 PM)Indigo Wrote:  Yeah about what about the punishment Memphis will get for playing Wiseman while ineligible? Forfeited games?

Forfeit? Or vacate?

(11-15-2019 04:16 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:06 PM)Indigo Wrote:  Yeah about what about the punishment Memphis will get for playing Wiseman while ineligible? Forfeited games?

Forfeit? Or vacate?

We hope they use the term vacate.... takes the edge off the pain a little bit. We all are already use to that term. lol

(11-15-2019 04:16 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:06 PM)Indigo Wrote:  Yeah about what about the punishment Memphis will get for playing Wiseman while ineligible? Forfeited games?

Forfeit? Or vacate?

You don't vacate games. You only vacate wins. It doesn't change the loss for the other team. In a forfeited game they change the Wins to Losses. They haven't forced a team to forfeit a game in over 20 years but they vacate games all the time.

(11-15-2019 04:03 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Memphis officials are optimistic Wiseman will miss fewer than the nine games prescribed under the NCAA’s impermissible benefits rules, sources have told The Athletic.

“The hope is he misses three, maybe six games,” one source with knowledge of the situation said.

I think 4

I think the initial number is 9 and it's talked down to 6. Either way for Wiseman's sake I just hope it's settled soon.

“It does not benefit the NCAA in the grand scheme to have Wiseman — potential must-see TV for fans to sit out” for a extended period of time and so the UT game is a must. Cant see him sitting past 2 weeks so 3 or 4 games imo

(11-15-2019 03:50 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:29 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 02:56 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 02:47 PM)mairving Wrote:  Don't expect it to be quick. Munz said 10-14 days. I assume that 10-14 days started yesterday. In 10 days we will have played our 3 game without Wiseman. In 14 days we will have played our 4th game. I suspect the punishment is longer than that so it really doesn't matter except for the annoying wait.

I heard it's coming today or tomorrow.

I didn't.

Come one man...

Don't tease...Either don't post or spill

Read above. The presser has come and gone. Keep up

And I'll post all day long regardless as to whether you like it or not.
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I was talking to FIshman because I know he has the goods.

(11-15-2019 04:22 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:03 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Memphis officials are optimistic Wiseman will miss fewer than the nine games prescribed under the NCAA’s impermissible benefits rules, sources have told The Athletic.

“The hope is he misses three, maybe six games,” one source with knowledge of the situation said.

I think 4

I think the initial number is 9 and it's talked down to 6. Either way for Wiseman's sake I just hope it's settled soon.

“It does not benefit the NCAA in the grand scheme to have Wiseman — potential must-see TV for fans to sit out” for a extended period of time and so the UT game is a must. Cant see him sitting past 2 weeks so 3 or 4 games imo

6 games would have him back for the UT game.

(11-15-2019 04:22 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:50 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:29 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 02:56 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  I heard it's coming today or tomorrow.

I didn't.

Come one man...

Don't tease...Either don't post or spill

Read above. The presser has come and gone. Keep up

And I'll post all day long regardless as to whether you like it or not.
.

I was talking to FIshman because I know he has the goods.

Gotcha. Nobody knows the answer as to exactly when, but the consensus seems to be VERY soon with even today or tomorrow not ruled out. But nobody knows exactly when.

Not comforted after Penny’s press conference this afternoon. Sounds less like a settlement and more like we are waiting for the hammer to drop. Doesn’t sound anything like the behind the scenes gentleman’s agreement everyone was speculating about yesterday

(11-15-2019 04:30 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 04:22 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:50 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:48 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-15-2019 03:29 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  I didn't.

Come one man...

Don't tease...Either don't post or spill

Read above. The presser has come and gone. Keep up

And I'll post all day long regardless as to whether you like it or not.
.

I was talking to FIshman because I know he has the goods.

Gotcha. Nobody knows the answer as to exactly when, but the consensus seems to be VERY soon with even today or tomorrow not ruled out. But nobody knows exactly when.

Why you say that?