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(09-20-2019 09:04 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Brandan Stith started every game as a senior

Which means nothing regarding the statement you were responding to -

"As a senior he also lost his starting position at center to a bigger/taller player."

(09-21-2019 09:09 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 09:04 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Brandan Stith started every game as a senior

Which means nothing regarding the statement you were responding to -

"As a senior he also lost his starting position at center to a bigger/taller player."

He didnt lose any jobs. Porter started alongside him because he was our best player.

The concept of 5 players being pegged into 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 spots went away years ago. If you wanted to peg Stith, he would have been undersized when he was the “big player” on the court.

(09-21-2019 09:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 05:53 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:52 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 02:04 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  What is "our level", and whatever you perceive it to be, is it supposed to be our ceiling? When we play teams above "our level" are we supposed to be willing to be crushed by them because we accepted less.

In reference to the Maury kid ... maybe he will grow some into a more natural PF, maybe he will develop more of a SF skill set and be a good hybrid forward, or maybe he will use his size and quickness successfully against bigger power forwards to be successful at the position - assuming he can defend them at the other end which will likely be the greater issue.

Our level is G5 and hoping to win CUSA and get a tourney bid. You can't compete for recruits that are 6-10 and worth a damn (without significant development). The teams that are most successful take the undersize 6-5 power forward that is a baller but larger programs didn't want.

When is the last time that ODU had a successful team while starting a 6'-5" power forward?

Last year. And I dont know that Brandon stith was much of 6-5 (if any) despite what he was listed at.

Not true. Last season's starting power forward was 6'-7" Aaron Carver.

Aaron Carver is not 6-7.

(09-21-2019 11:26 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 09:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 05:53 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:52 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Our level is G5 and hoping to win CUSA and get a tourney bid. You can't compete for recruits that are 6-10 and worth a damn (without significant development). The teams that are most successful take the undersize 6-5 power forward that is a baller but larger programs didn't want.

When is the last time that ODU had a successful team while starting a 6'-5" power forward?

Last year. And I dont know that Brandon stith was much of 6-5 (if any) despite what he was listed at.

Not true. Last season's starting power forward was 6'-7" Aaron Carver.

Aaron Carver is not 6-7.

Correct...he's 6'6". Brandon Stith was 6'7" his senior year.

(09-21-2019 11:26 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 09:09 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 09:04 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Brandan Stith started every game as a senior

Which means nothing regarding the statement you were responding to -

"As a senior he also lost his starting position at center to a bigger/taller player."

He didnt lose any jobs. Porter started alongside him because he was our best player.

The concept of 5 players being pegged into 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 spots went away years ago. If you wanted to peg Stith, he would have been undersized when he was the “big player” on the court.

That's just wrong. People routinely refer to players as playing the 1,2,3,4,or 5 positions in describing them. They will also use the noun names for those positions, i.e. point guard, shooting guard, small forward, power forward, and center. You of course know that. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Glad to see you finally got it figured out about Porter as him starting at the 5 where Brandan had played before him is what I had been saying. Didn't say that Brandan went to the bench because of Porter. That's some smoke screen that you tried to interject while doing your Captain Obvious impersonation in stating that "Brandan started every game as a senior". Duh.

(09-21-2019 11:26 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 09:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 05:53 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:52 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 03:39 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Our level is G5 and hoping to win CUSA and get a tourney bid. You can't compete for recruits that are 6-10 and worth a damn (without significant development). The teams that are most successful take the undersize 6-5 power forward that is a baller but larger programs didn't want.

When is the last time that ODU had a successful team while starting a 6'-5" power forward?

Last year. And I dont know that Brandon stith was much of 6-5 (if any) despite what he was listed at.

Not true. Last season's starting power forward was 6'-7" Aaron Carver.

Aaron Carver is not 6-7.

Right or wrong I use the heights listed by Old Dominion regarding their players. I'm sure you have personally measured him to know within a 1/4" what his true height without shoes is, but the Old Dominion web page lists him as being 6'-7", and has for years.

http://www.odusports.com/SportSelect.dbm...M_ID=31100

(09-21-2019 07:55 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 11:26 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 09:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 05:53 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-19-2019 09:52 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  When is the last time that ODU had a successful team while starting a 6'-5" power forward?

Last year. And I dont know that Brandon stith was much of 6-5 (if any) despite what he was listed at.

Not true. Last season's starting power forward was 6'-7" Aaron Carver.

Aaron Carver is not 6-7.

Right or wrong I use the heights listed by Old Dominion regarding their players. I'm sure you have personally measured him to know within a 1/4" what his true height without shoes is, but the Old Dominion web page lists him as being 6'-7", and has for years.

http://www.odusports.com/SportSelect.dbm...M_ID=31100

Our players are all 2 inches shorter than the program listed heights. Everyone else’s roster is 100 percent correct. Where have you been?

(09-22-2019 07:31 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 07:55 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 11:26 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 09:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 05:53 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Last year. And I dont know that Brandon stith was much of 6-5 (if any) despite what he was listed at.

Not true. Last season's starting power forward was 6'-7" Aaron Carver.

Aaron Carver is not 6-7.

Right or wrong I use the heights listed by Old Dominion regarding their players. I'm sure you have personally measured him to know within a 1/4" what his true height without shoes is, but the Old Dominion web page lists him as being 6'-7", and has for years.

http://www.odusports.com/SportSelect.dbm...M_ID=31100

Our players are all 2 inches shorter than the program listed heights. Everyone else’s roster is 100 percent correct. Where have you been?

The point is to not be worried about listed heights. The though that you cant win with a 6-5 or 6-6 forward is nonsense. Heck, we did so last year.

(09-22-2019 07:31 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 07:55 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 11:26 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-21-2019 09:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-20-2019 05:53 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Last year. And I dont know that Brandon stith was much of 6-5 (if any) despite what he was listed at.

Not true. Last season's starting power forward was 6'-7" Aaron Carver.

Aaron Carver is not 6-7.

Right or wrong I use the heights listed by Old Dominion regarding their players. I'm sure you have personally measured him to know within a 1/4" what his true height without shoes is, but the Old Dominion web page lists him as being 6'-7", and has for years.

http://www.odusports.com/SportSelect.dbm...M_ID=31100

Our players are all 2 inches shorter than the program listed heights. Everyone else’s roster is 100 percent correct. Where have you been?

LOL. That's about the "size" of it.

Saw where ODU was hosting a recruit from Boo Williams this weekend. Anyone know who that was?

(10-20-2019 02:28 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Saw where ODU was hosting a recruit from Boo Williams this weekend. Anyone know who that was?

Clarence Rupert was on his official visit.

We also offered Eric van der Heijden, a 2021 SF from Millbrook NC this weekend.

(10-20-2019 03:20 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:28 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Saw where ODU was hosting a recruit from Boo Williams this weekend. Anyone know who that was?

Clarence Rupert was on his official visit.

We also offered Eric van der Heijden, a 2021 SF from Millbrook NC this weekend.

Thanks for the info

https://youtu.be/Vuf6k2t21e4

Nice touch for a big man

(10-20-2019 03:26 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 03:20 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(10-20-2019 02:28 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  Saw where ODU was hosting a recruit from Boo Williams this weekend. Anyone know who that was?

Clarence Rupert was on his official visit.

We also offered Eric van der Heijden, a 2021 SF from Millbrook NC this weekend.

Thanks for the info

It's Millbrook High School in Raleigh

State player of the year.

https://www.pilotonline.com/757teamz/bas...631a5.html

(10-21-2019 07:10 AM)mac Wrote:  State player of the year.

https://www.pilotonline.com/757teamz/bas...631a5.html

Would be awesome to get this guy

Would love to get a great local guy too. Less than a month from signing day.

Nate Brafford visited this past weekend;
https://twitter.com/Jbpi1/status/1185768...43520?s=19

https://www.maxpreps.com/m/athlete/nate-...efault.htm

(10-21-2019 02:27 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Nate Brafford visited this past weekend;
https://twitter.com/Jbpi1/status/1185768...43520?s=19

http://www.accac.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...adfordy8tu

Boy would he have been a perfect BT recruit. More rebounds per game than assists. Only shoots 63% FT. And under 30% 3 pointers.

The 2nd link is not the same Nate Brafford.