https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...0581791744

Still believe there will be much, MUCH better jobs out there if Mike waits another year.

no way I'd take that job

wasn't Arky the school that started the rumor about something being found in Norvell's background?
Unless it was Alabama or USC...I don't see him taking a rebuilding job like Arkasuck right now.

(11-11-2019 10:52 AM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...0581791744

Still believe there will be much, MUCH better jobs out there if Mike waits another year.

There are better jobs out there right now.

Norvell might leave if he thinks Morris left him enough to compete in the SEC West. But he better get 40M out of those losers. Get paid Mike. And don't let them mess with your buyout, because honestly I don't think anyone can win at Arkansas right now.

We will be fine. We are the best program in the AAC West. We will get a good replacement.

(11-11-2019 11:22 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  Norvell might leave if he thinks Morris left him enough to compete in the SEC West. But he better get 40M out of those losers. Get paid Mike. And don't let them mess with your buyout, because honestly I don't think anyone can win at Arkansas right now.

We will be fine. We are the best program in the AAC West. We will get a good replacement.

By definition it is virtually impossible to win at AR. One, only one SEC-West title since they joined & no SEC championships in 20 yrs. Morris fired after 22 games, Beilma fired, Smith fired before him - and AR won't even pay the contract as agreed to Beilma since he was fired. Pay increase is slight, not worth being fired 2-3 yrs later.

(11-11-2019 11:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:22 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  Norvell might leave if he thinks Morris left him enough to compete in the SEC West. But he better get 40M out of those losers. Get paid Mike. And don't let them mess with your buyout, because honestly I don't think anyone can win at Arkansas right now.

We will be fine. We are the best program in the AAC West. We will get a good replacement.

By definition it is virtually impossible to win at AR. One, only one SEC-West title since they joined & no SEC championships in 20 yrs. Morris fired after 22 games, Beilma fired, Smith fired before him - and AR won't even pay the contract as agreed to Beilma since he was fired. Pay increase is slight, not worth being fired 2-3 yrs later.

Yeah, I thing we are in a good spot to keep Norvell vs. Arkansas given how they have treated coaches. Hopefully we provide Norvell a meaningful salary bump, but also increase his buyout.

Norvell is not going to take the job. Fuente might, because Fuente rebuilt Memphis and has experience in rebuilding. Norvell doesn't have rebuilding experience, and, it might cost his job if he doesn't succeed. So, right now, it's best if he stays in Memphis.

If a Power 5 school that isn't as bad off as Arkansas offers Coach Norvell a job, THAT might be a different thing. Arkansas is a very broke program right now.

Drop that cash. He will stay unless he gets an offer from a golden school one day.

Is Murphy running a sportsbook now?

(11-11-2019 11:54 AM)rc0213 Wrote:  Norvell is not going to take the job. Fuente might, because Fuente rebuilt Memphis and has experience in rebuilding. Norvell doesn't have rebuilding experience, and, it might cost his job if he doesn't succeed. So, right now, it's best if he stays in Memphis.

If a Power 5 school that isn't as bad off as Arkansas offers Coach Norvell a job, THAT might be a different thing. Arkansas is a very broke program right now.

Yeah, I'm thinking Fuente, and Freeze, in that order.

You all are way underestimating the pull of family... Arkansas is attractive because of family more than anything. The guy has the possibility to be paid millions and be next door to family while coaching in the SEC. That is a very unique opportunity and the most attractive part of the job. He is young. If he is at Arkansas for three years and gets fired he will have no problem finding another multi-million dollar head coaching gig somewhere...

I think most are too willing to write this off very quickly as "AR is a dumpster fire...etc", don't be surprised. I would caution against over-romanticizing our current situation, they have a ton to offer any prospective coach, particularly one at a G5 school that has climbed the mountain and is fighting it out on top.

Don't be too surprised if he looks hard at this when approached (I bet he already has been, if even through intermediaries - if you're AR, you don't pull that trigger on Morris without a plan) because of all it does offer plus a few intangibles. I sincerely hope that we can keep him, I am not completely convinced that we can.

I am not saying he would go, I am saying don't convince yourself[/b] that he won't.

(11-11-2019 11:58 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  You all are way underestimating the pull of family... Arkansas is attractive because of family more than anything. The guy has the possibility to be paid millions and be next door to family while coaching in the SEC. That is a very unique opportunity and the most attractive part of the job. He is young. If he is at Arkansas for three years and gets fired he will have no problem finding another multi-million dollar head coaching gig somewhere...

Never say never but your logic is faulty - 1) Norvell has no connection to AR & is about as close here as there to his family, (2 Norvell is being paid millions here & would likely make about $1M/yr more at AR for 3 yrs before he is fired, 3) name one fired SEC HC coach that has found another "multi-million dollar P-5 job after? & 4) AR is currently NOT paying Beilema money owed him since they fired him - who would want that?

Why take a job of that little potential when he can play for championships here - and still have, even enhance the opportunity for a premo job (Bama, Auburn, LSU, FSU (maybe now), UGA, UF, UT (Texas) at a future date - 5 to 10 yrs from now? It's a no brainer decision NOT to take a job like AR.

(11-11-2019 12:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:58 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  You all are way underestimating the pull of family... Arkansas is attractive because of family more than anything. The guy has the possibility to be paid millions and be next door to family while coaching in the SEC. That is a very unique opportunity and the most attractive part of the job. He is young. If he is at Arkansas for three years and gets fired he will have no problem finding another multi-million dollar head coaching gig somewhere...

name one fired SEC HC coach that has found another "multi-million dollar P-5 job after?

(11-11-2019 12:18 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:58 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  You all are way underestimating the pull of family... Arkansas is attractive because of family more than anything. The guy has the possibility to be paid millions and be next door to family while coaching in the SEC. That is a very unique opportunity and the most attractive part of the job. He is young. If he is at Arkansas for three years and gets fired he will have no problem finding another multi-million dollar head coaching gig somewhere...

name one fired SEC HC coach that has found another "multi-million dollar P-5 job after?

Not directly - and that was the inference. What was it 5-7 yrs later?

(11-11-2019 12:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:18 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:58 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  You all are way underestimating the pull of family... Arkansas is attractive because of family more than anything. The guy has the possibility to be paid millions and be next door to family while coaching in the SEC. That is a very unique opportunity and the most attractive part of the job. He is young. If he is at Arkansas for three years and gets fired he will have no problem finding another multi-million dollar head coaching gig somewhere...

name one fired SEC HC coach that has found another "multi-million dollar P-5 job after?

Not directly - and that was the inference. What was it 5-7 yrs later?

Left OM in 07, didn’t get the HC gig at LSU until 16. Had 5 or so jobs in between.

All I did was answer the question that was asked. The Coach of the #1 ranked team in the country was previously fired as HC of an SEC school.

(11-11-2019 12:18 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:15 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:58 AM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  You all are way underestimating the pull of family... Arkansas is attractive because of family more than anything. The guy has the possibility to be paid millions and be next door to family while coaching in the SEC. That is a very unique opportunity and the most attractive part of the job. He is young. If he is at Arkansas for three years and gets fired he will have no problem finding another multi-million dollar head coaching gig somewhere...

name one fired SEC HC coach that has found another "multi-million dollar P-5 job after?

Muschamp, Miles, Richt, Tuberville, Sumlin do I need to continue?