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Not much change. LSU solid #1. Alabama only dropped 3 spots to #4. Penn St. dropped 6 (#11) while Minnesota moved up 6 (#7). Iowa dropped 4 to #22 while Wake Forest, Kansas St. and San Diego St. dropped out. No significant shuffling among the remainder. Texas, App. St. and Indiana filled the last 3 slots.
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Guess who's back? Back again?
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(11-10-2019 02:14 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don’t usually defend The Big Ten but how can 8-1 Oregon be ranked ahead of 9-0 Minnesota. You can probably make an argument that Minnesota should probably be ahead of Georgia since the Dawgs lost to South Carolina. I still believe Bama deserves to be 4th because they lost to a team that was undefeated.
Actually Oregon should be ahead of both Alabama and Georgia. I get Minnesota's ranking, they have a horrible sos up to this point but if they keep winning they will be fine.
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(11-10-2019 02:18 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 02:14 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don’t usually defend The Big Ten but how can 8-1 Oregon be ranked ahead of 9-0 Minnesota. You can probably make an argument that Minnesota should probably be ahead of Georgia since the Dawgs lost to South Carolina. I still believe Bama deserves to be 4th because they lost to a team that was undefeated.
Actually Oregon should be ahead of both Alabama and Georgia. I get Minnesota's ranking, they have a horrible sos up to this point but if they keep winning they will be fine.

Oregon hasn't beaten a single team with less than 4 losses. Alabama does at least have A&M as well as USM. And A&M is the only team that came within 20 points of them (47-28). Oregon has been in about 4 dogfights. Georgia has wins over Florida and Notre Dame and none of their other wins were by less than 20.
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Ohio St. looks good on paper as they have 3 ranked wins-Cincinnati, Wisconsin and Indiana and have beaten everyone by at least 24. But I think Cincinnati, Wisconsin and Indiana are all overrated. We'll see how those 3 finish out the season. Of course by that time, Ohio St. will have MI, PSU and the Big 10 ccg to test them.
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Alabama at 4 is a joke
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Georgia at 5 is even worse
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(11-10-2019 02:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 02:18 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 02:14 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don’t usually defend The Big Ten but how can 8-1 Oregon be ranked ahead of 9-0 Minnesota. You can probably make an argument that Minnesota should probably be ahead of Georgia since the Dawgs lost to South Carolina. I still believe Bama deserves to be 4th because they lost to a team that was undefeated.
Actually Oregon should be ahead of both Alabama and Georgia. I get Minnesota's ranking, they have a horrible sos up to this point but if they keep winning they will be fine.

Oregon hasn't beaten a single team with less than 4 losses. Alabama does at least have A&M as well as USM. And A&M is the only team that came within 20 points of them (47-28). Oregon has been in about 4 dogfights. Georgia has wins over Florida and Notre Dame and none of their other wins were by less than 20.
There is a reason why A&M is the only team to come within 20 of them.
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Georgia lost to SOUTH CAROLINA. That alone should disqualify them from the top 10
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(11-10-2019 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Georgia at 5 is even worse

Which 1 loss team has done more? Not Oregon, not Alabama, not Utah, not Oklahoma, not Penn St.
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(11-10-2019 02:38 PM)bullet Wrote:  Ohio St. looks good on paper as they have 3 ranked wins-Cincinnati, Wisconsin and Indiana and have beaten everyone by at least 24. But I think Cincinnati, Wisconsin and Indiana are all overrated. We'll see how those 3 finish out the season. Of course by that time, Ohio St. will have MI, PSU and the Big 10 ccg to test them.
Wisconsin and Indiana are overrated but you use Southern Miss in your argument for Alabama? It's getting harder and harder to have educated debates around here.
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AP out. Writers don't think much of OU and Baylor, ranking both two spots lower. Other than that, identical to coaches' poll for top 21. 22&23 (Texas higher in AP and Iowa higher in coaches') are flipped. App St. 2 spots lower in writers (#26) which moves Okie St. into top 25.
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Sos..
Oregon- #9
Penn State- #19
Alabama- #23
Oklahoma- #29
Utah- #33
Georgia- #39
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(11-10-2019 02:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  AP out. Writers don't think much of OU and Baylor, ranking both two spots lower. Other than that, identical to coaches' poll for top 21. 22&23 (Texas higher in AP and Iowa higher in coaches') are flipped. App St. 2 spots lower in writers (#26) which moves Okie St. into top 25.
Only poll that matters is CFP. What they say is what matters most.
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(11-10-2019 02:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Georgia at 5 is even worse

Which 1 loss team has done more? Not Oregon, not Alabama, not Utah, not Oklahoma, not Penn St.

None of those other teams Have the horrible lost to Georgia does losing to South Carolina is inexcusable if you are going to pretend to be a top 10 but alone a top-five team
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Alabama has only two wins over teams with winning records.

Oklahoma also has two.

Minnesota has two, but Alabama has nothing like Minnesota's win over Penn State.

Baylor has three.

Georgia has three.

Utah has four.

Oregon has five.

If the team with Alabama's resume was Vanderbilt, they might not be in the top ten.
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(11-10-2019 02:51 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 02:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Georgia at 5 is even worse

Which 1 loss team has done more? Not Oregon, not Alabama, not Utah, not Oklahoma, not Penn St.

None of those other teams Have the horrible lost to Georgia does losing to South Carolina is inexcusable if you are going to pretend to be a top 10 but alone a top-five team

Losing to a good team doesn't help if you don't beat any good teams. South Carolina has been very up and down. They were leading Florida until a 4th quarter collapse.
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(11-10-2019 02:54 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Alabama has only two wins over teams with winning records.

Oklahoma also has two.

Minnesota has two, but Alabama has nothing like Minnesota's win over Penn State.

Baylor has three.

Georgia has three.

Utah has four.

Oregon has five.

If the team with Alabama's resume was Vanderbilt, they might not be in the top ten.

Of course Oregon's 5 are all against 5-4 or 6-4 teams.
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(11-10-2019 03:06 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 02:54 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Alabama has only two wins over teams with winning records.

Oklahoma also has two.

Minnesota has two, but Alabama has nothing like Minnesota's win over Penn State.

Baylor has three.

Georgia has three.

Utah has four.

Oregon has five.

If the team with Alabama's resume was Vanderbilt, they might not be in the top ten.

Of course Oregon's 5 are all against 5-4 or 6-4 teams.
So, it's who you've played and who they've played. It's facts and not personal opinion.
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And Alabama is the greatest team in the history of college football. If anybody says otherwise they are not thinking clearly. With that said, it should not make them the exception to the metrics used by the committee.
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