(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 12:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  More smoke on Jordan...

Quote:Adam DiSabato, a former captain of the OSU wrestling team during the late 80s and early 90s, told members of the House Civil Justice Committee that Jordan and other team officials knew about open-shower team facilities that facilitated sexual harassment and abuse of team wrestlers​, an allegation Jordan has denied.

He also said Jordan called him repeatedly in July 2018, after media outlets quoted his brother, Michael DiSabato, saying Strauss’ abuse was common knowledge to those surrounding the wrestling program, including Jordan.

“Jim Jordan called me crying, groveling… begging me to go against my brother…That’s the kind of cover-up that’s going on there,” he said.

“Are you guys going to do what you’re voted to do?” he told lawmakers later. “That’s the only reason I’m here.”

No Republicans asked DiSabato follow-up questions on Tuesday. But several Democratic committee members did, including State Rep. Jeff Crossman, who asked DiSabato on Tuesday to square his testimony with Jordan’s statements.

DiSabato responded by calling Jordan a “liar.”

“He’s throwing us under the bus, all of us. He’s a coward,” DiSabato said.

Jim Jordan’s name comes up during Statehouse testimony on OSU abuse victims bill

This is comparable to me accusing my parish priest of abuse without any proof whatsoever. I could say anything and it would be my word against his. How do you prove who's lying and who isn't.

Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 12:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  More smoke on Jordan...

Quote:Adam DiSabato, a former captain of the OSU wrestling team during the late 80s and early 90s, told members of the House Civil Justice Committee that Jordan and other team officials knew about open-shower team facilities that facilitated sexual harassment and abuse of team wrestlers​, an allegation Jordan has denied.

He also said Jordan called him repeatedly in July 2018, after media outlets quoted his brother, Michael DiSabato, saying Strauss’ abuse was common knowledge to those surrounding the wrestling program, including Jordan.

“Jim Jordan called me crying, groveling… begging me to go against my brother…That’s the kind of cover-up that’s going on there,” he said.

“Are you guys going to do what you’re voted to do?” he told lawmakers later. “That’s the only reason I’m here.”

No Republicans asked DiSabato follow-up questions on Tuesday. But several Democratic committee members did, including State Rep. Jeff Crossman, who asked DiSabato on Tuesday to square his testimony with Jordan’s statements.

DiSabato responded by calling Jordan a “liar.”

“He’s throwing us under the bus, all of us. He’s a coward,” DiSabato said.

Jim Jordan’s name comes up during Statehouse testimony on OSU abuse victims bill

This is comparable to me accusing my parish priest of abuse without any proof whatsoever. I could say anything and it would be my word against his. How do you prove who's lying and who isn't.

Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 12:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  More smoke on Jordan...

Jim Jordan’s name comes up during Statehouse testimony on OSU abuse victims bill

This is comparable to me accusing my parish priest of abuse without any proof whatsoever. I could say anything and it would be my word against his. How do you prove who's lying and who isn't.

Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  This is comparable to me accusing my parish priest of abuse without any proof whatsoever. I could say anything and it would be my word against his. How do you prove who's lying and who isn't.

Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

And several others say he didn't. If you have any hard evidence let's hear it. Otherwise it's hearsay and conflicting stories.

(02-12-2020 12:56 PM)fsquid Wrote:  He seems to have an agenda.

Who CommieTom?

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  This is comparable to me accusing my parish priest of abuse without any proof whatsoever. I could say anything and it would be my word against his. How do you prove who's lying and who isn't.

Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

WTF is wrong with you? OSU knew in 1979 when Jordan was in HS. Jordan never witnessed anything. I had gay creeps follow me into open showers at an old Y. If they did any creep chit like the Ref said I would have called to the police and also notified Y staff. If I notified Y staff and they said yeah we have heard things about this guy should they all lose their jobs or something then or 20 years later. You hate Jordan and have TDS.

(02-12-2020 03:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

WTF is wrong with you? OSU knew in 1979 when Jordan was in HS. Jordan never witnessed anything. I had gay creeps follow me into open showers at an old Y. If they did any creep chit like the Ref said I would have called to the police and also notified Y staff. If I notified Y staff and they said yeah we have heard things about this guy should they all lose their jobs or something then or 20 years later. You hate Jordan and have TDS.

And what does any of that have to do with multiple folks who were in the O$U wrestling program who said Jordan knew and did nothing about it? And yes, some of the abuse DID occur when Jordan was there. It did not stop in 1979 and the creep was there until 1996.

(02-12-2020 04:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

WTF is wrong with you? OSU knew in 1979 when Jordan was in HS. Jordan never witnessed anything. I had gay creeps follow me into open showers at an old Y. If they did any creep chit like the Ref said I would have called to the police and also notified Y staff. If I notified Y staff and they said yeah we have heard things about this guy should they all lose their jobs or something then or 20 years later. You hate Jordan and have TDS.

And what does any of that have to do with multiple folks who were in the O$U wrestling program who said Jordan knew and did nothing about it? And yes, some of the abuse DID occur when Jordan was there. It did not stop in 1979 and the creep was there until 1996.

So we believe them if they said he knew and don't believe the ones who say otherwise..

How long have you hated conservatives?

(02-12-2020 04:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

WTF is wrong with you? OSU knew in 1979 when Jordan was in HS. Jordan never witnessed anything. I had gay creeps follow me into open showers at an old Y. If they did any creep chit like the Ref said I would have called to the police and also notified Y staff. If I notified Y staff and they said yeah we have heard things about this guy should they all lose their jobs or something then or 20 years later. You hate Jordan and have TDS.

And what does any of that have to do with multiple folks who were in the O$U wrestling program who said Jordan knew and did nothing about it? And yes, some of the abuse DID occur when Jordan was there. It did not stop in 1979 and the creep was there until 1996.

So people said Jordan knew, so it seems those people knew also. Why didn't those people say anything. Again Tom, if one does not witness something it is rumor and gossip. Like I said if you think you were abused call the police. If a Ref said he told Jordan and the Head Coach that the creep was masturbating in the shower maybe the ref should have called the police. What we have is a creep doctor using his position to examine athletes junk for his gay jollies for a couple decades, and OSU administration know about it since 79'. But yeah it is Jim Jordan's fault. You hate Jordan and Trump thus your radical obsession with this.

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  This is comparable to me accusing my parish priest of abuse without any proof whatsoever. I could say anything and it would be my word against his. How do you prove who's lying and who isn't.

Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

Imagine that, someone possibly has an agenda against a sitting congressman. I was somewhere once where something bad happened and somebody else was there so that person had to have known about it and has to be guilty of something, he should resign! This doesn't even rise to the level of Kavenaugh and the crazy lady who accused him of improperly touching her. But keep trying to connect the dots.

(11-08-2019 12:00 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Shows how scared the Left is of Jordan. They are cowards and fear what he has to say. Why? Because he speaks the truth.

They are scared shiteless. The hammer is about to fall. But muh John Doe said Jordan was told 20 years ago somebody whacked off in a shower.

Was squee there too. Were they chuggin brewskys.

Selective morality by prog filth

More Zilensky, Gtfoh with that simple minded crap. Hell if a democrat is elected they will probably try to make this crap legal at tran story hour.

I cant wait for Trump to start declassifying the coup. He"s not played that card and trust me, he has it.

Democrats hate America.

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 02:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 01:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  This is comparable to me accusing my parish priest of abuse without any proof whatsoever. I could say anything and it would be my word against his. How do you prove who's lying and who isn't.

Not even that, the so called perp killed himself in 2005.

By 1979, Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique among team physicians to Strauss.[1]:2 Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[1]:2–3

Abuse occurred in private examinations. Doc got his jollies by showering near other naked men. Jordan was in High School in 79'.

Yes...and?

What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

You gonna vote for Bootyguy?

Jordan was a graduate assistant coach. It was paying his way through school. If you don't understand the pecking order, a graduate assistant wrestling coach is about as low as it gets on the totem pole. If he had raised hell, all that would have happened is that he would have lost his stipend.

So a guy that obviously liked the boys was flirting in the shower. I thought this kind of behavior was perfectly OK with the woke left. What exactly in the wide world of sports that the left has created lately did this guy do wrong? Which is it? Is it not OK to like the boys now or not? Jordan would have been wrong to question this man’s sexual leanings. AmIright? Let’s ask Bootyguy.

(02-12-2020 07:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Jordan was a graduate assistant coach. It was paying his way through school. If you don't understand the pecking order, a graduate assistant wrestling coach is about as low as it gets on the totem pole. If he had raised hell, all that would have happened is that he would have lost his stipend.

But instead, he kept quiet, and only lost his integrity. For. A. Stipend. Sad.

(02-13-2020 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 07:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Jordan was a graduate assistant coach. It was paying his way through school. If you don't understand the pecking order, a graduate assistant wrestling coach is about as low as it gets on the totem pole. If he had raised hell, all that would have happened is that he would have lost his stipend.

But instead, he kept quiet, and only lost his integrity. For. A. Stipend. Sad.

You lost yours for nothing, on a message board.

(02-13-2020 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 07:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Jordan was a graduate assistant coach. It was paying his way through school. If you don't understand the pecking order, a graduate assistant wrestling coach is about as low as it gets on the totem pole. If he had raised hell, all that would have happened is that he would have lost his stipend.

But instead, he kept quiet, and only lost his integrity. For. A. Stipend. Sad.

Has it been proven that he knew anything? Or is this another Kavanaugh type slander and removal attempt?

(02-12-2020 04:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 04:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 03:01 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  What? Jordan isn't going anywhere.

Yeah...okay...but he was at O$U when the creep was. And several folks have said he knew what was going on but didn't seem to care.

WTF is wrong with you? OSU knew in 1979 when Jordan was in HS. Jordan never witnessed anything. I had gay creeps follow me into open showers at an old Y. If they did any creep chit like the Ref said I would have called to the police and also notified Y staff. If I notified Y staff and they said yeah we have heard things about this guy should they all lose their jobs or something then or 20 years later. You hate Jordan and have TDS.

And what does any of that have to do with multiple folks who were in the O$U wrestling program who said Jordan knew and did nothing about it? And yes, some of the abuse DID occur when Jordan was there. It did not stop in 1979 and the creep was there until 1996.

So people said Jordan knew, so it seems those people knew also. Why didn't those people say anything. Again Tom, if one does not witness something it is rumor and gossip. Like I said if you think you were abused call the police. If a Ref said he told Jordan and the Head Coach that the creep was masturbating in the shower maybe the ref should have called the police. What we have is a creep doctor using his position to examine athletes junk for his gay jollies for a couple decades, and OSU administration know about it since 79'. But yeah it is Jim Jordan's fault. You hate Jordan and Trump thus your radical obsession with this.

Nonsense. And again, do we really need to rehash why people don't report these things? C'mon man! It's enough of a problem with rape and it's likely even worse for men to report such things that occur to them by another man.

And nowhere did I say or imply the abuse was Jordan's fault. It was the creeps fault. But if these guys are telling the truth, Jordan was in the wrong by not speaking up but rather seeming to condone it by looking the other way.

(02-13-2020 09:25 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 07:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Jordan was a graduate assistant coach. It was paying his way through school. If you don't understand the pecking order, a graduate assistant wrestling coach is about as low as it gets on the totem pole. If he had raised hell, all that would have happened is that he would have lost his stipend.

But instead, he kept quiet, and only lost his integrity. For. A. Stipend. Sad.

Has it been proven that he knew anything? Or is this another Kavanaugh type slander and removal attempt?

It's their word against his. We'll likely never know. If Jordan was complicit, he'll get his judgement eventually.

(02-12-2020 07:48 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  So a guy that obviously liked the boys was flirting in the shower. I thought this kind of behavior was perfectly OK with the woke left. What exactly in the wide world of sports that the left has created lately did this guy do wrong? Which is it? Is it not OK to like the boys now or not? Jordan would have been wrong to question this man’s sexual leanings. AmIright? Let’s ask Bootyguy.

You're an idiot.