(11-08-2019 12:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Wasn't Jordan basically a graduate assistant wrestling coach back then? Hell, his job was basically to spar with guys and run select drills in practice, hand out singlets and help fold up the wrestling mats at the end of the practice. As someone who wrestled for many years, I can tell you guys like Jordan are basically practicing with the team for the most part and aren't there to be an enforcer/disciplianarian. What was he supposed to do and who would have listened to him? He could have gone to the head coach but as I recall from another article on this the head coach already knew.

Wow. The ole Joe Paterno Penn St. defense.
Gross.


I don't know if Jim is guilty or not, that's for the courts to say. And I won't pile on to the blame wagon without knowing more... but the above defense is was the same Penn St fans used to defende Joe Paterno. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

Hear something/see something, say something, do something.

(02-13-2020 12:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-08-2019 12:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Wasn't Jordan basically a graduate assistant wrestling coach back then? Hell, his job was basically to spar with guys and run select drills in practice, hand out singlets and help fold up the wrestling mats at the end of the practice. As someone who wrestled for many years, I can tell you guys like Jordan are basically practicing with the team for the most part and aren't there to be an enforcer/disciplianarian. What was he supposed to do and who would have listened to him? He could have gone to the head coach but as I recall from another article on this the head coach already knew.

Wow. The ole Joe Paterno Penn St. defense.
Gross.


I don't know if Jim is guilty or not, that's for the courts to say. And I won't pile on to the blame wagon without knowing more... but the above defense is was the same Penn St fans used to defende Joe Paterno. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

Hear something/see something, say something, do something.

Now really? You aren’t against homosexuality. Why jump on this band wagon? What did this guy do wrong? Maybe you can tell me.

(02-13-2020 12:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-08-2019 12:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Wasn't Jordan basically a graduate assistant wrestling coach back then? Hell, his job was basically to spar with guys and run select drills in practice, hand out singlets and help fold up the wrestling mats at the end of the practice. As someone who wrestled for many years, I can tell you guys like Jordan are basically practicing with the team for the most part and aren't there to be an enforcer/disciplianarian. What was he supposed to do and who would have listened to him? He could have gone to the head coach but as I recall from another article on this the head coach already knew.

Wow. The ole Joe Paterno Penn St. defense.
Gross.


I don't know if Jim is guilty or not, that's for the courts to say. And I won't pile on to the blame wagon without knowing more... but the above defense is was the same Penn St fans used to defende Joe Paterno. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

Hear something/see something, say something, do something.

Nope OSU admin had complaints and knew about the Doc since 79'. Now the Ref who might have told Jordan and the head coach that Doc was jacking off in the shower, why didn't he call the police? What is Jordan or the head coach supposed to do call the police and then the police say well tell the Ref to call us. Is jacking off a crime?
McQueary at PSU witnessed Sanduskey raping a kid in the shower I believe, going off of memory.

(02-13-2020 12:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-08-2019 12:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Wasn't Jordan basically a graduate assistant wrestling coach back then? Hell, his job was basically to spar with guys and run select drills in practice, hand out singlets and help fold up the wrestling mats at the end of the practice. As someone who wrestled for many years, I can tell you guys like Jordan are basically practicing with the team for the most part and aren't there to be an enforcer/disciplianarian. What was he supposed to do and who would have listened to him? He could have gone to the head coach but as I recall from another article on this the head coach already knew.

Wow. The ole Joe Paterno Penn St. defense.
Gross.


I don't know if Jim is guilty or not, that's for the courts to say. And I won't pile on to the blame wagon without knowing more... but the above defense is was the same Penn St fans used to defende Joe Paterno. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

Hear something/see something, say something, do something.

I don't think this is close to what happened at Penn State and Jim Jordan has not been charged with a crime nor has there been an alleged crime committed by him so the courts will be sitting this one out.
Jim Jordan is a republican therefore he is guilty regardless of the lack of proof.

(02-13-2020 11:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:45 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:36 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Did they ever have much credibility? Regardless, nothing from that is going to carry over to any of the D's running for president, so any damage will have nothing to do with November IMO. I also don't recall any D reps hanging their entire political life to it.

Maybe I've been giving you too much credit. Again, I said nothing of the sort in regards to dem's running for president or anyone hanging their political life to it.

Yes, I understand that, but if the K "fiasco" ruined their credibility as you infer, that needs to have an effect somewhere, right? And if not in the upcoming elections, it didn't really do much, no? You don't honestly see anyone leaving the Democratic party over the K hearings do you?

I think it is an accumulation of things including the K hearings. There are a couple of threads that started this morning that discuss Democrats leaving the party over what they are doing these days.

Yeah...so? I'm not a member of the party, but I'll more than likely vote for nothing but democrats in races where I decide to actually vote. Especially after the damage the GOP Senate did with the impeachment. And trust me, I won't be thinking about Mr. I Like Beer when I do.

If it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, and quacks like a Duck ...... You're a Democrat LeftwingTom. Whether you know it on not, or admit to it or not doesn't change the obvious.

Now to get back to my original statement. There are lots of Democrats (the smart and honest ones) that are leaving the Democrat party and switching to the Republican party because they don't like how the Democrats are acting about so many issues - including the Kavanaugh hearing.

Your response, "Yeah...so?" hardly amounts to a refute of those facts of it being ONE of the MANY things that Democrats are leaving the party because of.

(02-13-2020 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 07:48 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  So a guy that obviously liked the boys was flirting in the shower. I thought this kind of behavior was perfectly OK with the woke left. What exactly in the wide world of sports that the left has created lately did this guy do wrong? Which is it? Is it not OK to like the boys now or not? Jordan would have been wrong to question this man’s sexual leanings. AmIright? Let’s ask Bootyguy.

You're an idiot.

Serious question Tom - do you really think a congressman should resign over an unproven allegation of a situation that he claims he knew nothing about from over 40 years ago.

Do you?

(02-13-2020 11:36 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 10:35 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 10:17 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Did I say that? Do you disagree with what I wrote? Why do you continue to be purposefully obtuse?

I always cringe whenever someone appears to assign common traits to one ideology. Especially when it comes to citing truths when trump is the current president. The guys made lying about his political opponents an art form!

So you disagree that the Kavanaugh fiasco did damage to the Democrat's credibility as a whole?

Did they ever have much credibility? Regardless, nothing from that is going to carry over to any of the D's running for president, so any damage will have nothing to do with November IMO. I also don't recall any D reps hanging their entire political life to it.

Maybe I've been giving you too much credit. Again, I said nothing of the sort in regards to dem's running for president or anyone hanging their political life to it.

If you gave him any credit at all it was too much.

(02-13-2020 12:33 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 12:30 PM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  So have the head coach, assistant coaches, and every other graduate assistant been asked to resign from their current jobs or was this a case where Jordan was the specific coach assigned to protect against sexual deviants and he failed miserably?

OK. Another poster stating homosexuality is deviant.
We are all waiting for Tom to straighten this brain teaser out.
Come on Tom. You can do it.

No, he really can't. Or he just won't because to do so would make him look like even more of a hypocritical liar and a fool.

(02-13-2020 12:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-08-2019 12:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Wasn't Jordan basically a graduate assistant wrestling coach back then? Hell, his job was basically to spar with guys and run select drills in practice, hand out singlets and help fold up the wrestling mats at the end of the practice. As someone who wrestled for many years, I can tell you guys like Jordan are basically practicing with the team for the most part and aren't there to be an enforcer/disciplianarian. What was he supposed to do and who would have listened to him? He could have gone to the head coach but as I recall from another article on this the head coach already knew.

Wow. The ole Joe Paterno Penn St. defense.
Gross.


I don't know if Jim is guilty or not, that's for the courts to say. And I won't pile on to the blame wagon without knowing more... but the above defense is was the same Penn St fans used to defende Joe Paterno. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

Hear something/see something, say something, do something.

Guilty of what crime? Please be specific.

(02-13-2020 01:11 PM)Oman Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 07:48 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  So a guy that obviously liked the boys was flirting in the shower. I thought this kind of behavior was perfectly OK with the woke left. What exactly in the wide world of sports that the left has created lately did this guy do wrong? Which is it? Is it not OK to like the boys now or not? Jordan would have been wrong to question this man’s sexual leanings. AmIright? Let’s ask Bootyguy.

You're an idiot.

Serious question Tom - do you really think a congressman should resign over an unproven allegation of a situation that he claims he knew nothing about from over 40 years ago.

Do you?

He won't answer so I will, yes he does think that. He believed in the validity of the impeachment process, one built on nothing but second hand accounts, unverifiable so called first hand accounts, unverified and unverifiable accusations and innuendo, as exercised against Trump.

So why wouldn't he believe that Jordan should resign in shame over unsubstantiated allegations that also don't include a crime. I'll tell you why, despite his fervent denials that he is a democrat he is one. So what that he isn't a registered democrat, when you vote straight party line tickets you'rre an effin democrat, same as any unregistered republican who does the same thing. The only one who is unaware of it is Tom.

(02-13-2020 11:51 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Sure...whatever...you are either being purposefully obtuse are simply incapable of reason.

No, you just need to show me any individual who now has credibility issues due to K or Jordan...outside of maybe the accuser and her lawyers?

Has nothing to do with reason, and everything to do with the fact that virtually no one cares any more about the K "fiasco".

(02-13-2020 11:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:42 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-12-2020 07:48 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  So a guy that obviously liked the boys was flirting in the shower. I thought this kind of behavior was perfectly OK with the woke left. What exactly in the wide world of sports that the left has created lately did this guy do wrong? Which is it? Is it not OK to like the boys now or not? Jordan would have been wrong to question this man’s sexual leanings. AmIright? Let’s ask Bootyguy.

You're an idiot.

Ahhh, great reply from the one who loves to call out some others for similar replies. Hypocrite. Now answer the question. Are you a homophobe?

WTF does that have to do with anything here?

And FTR - We're now allowed to call idiots, idiots. Idiot.

It has everything to do with it. You want Jordan to resign because some old homo was doing what homos do and Jordan didn’t object, intervene and get the homo fired. AmIright?
The leftist twists themselves into pretzels and just can’t seem to make up their minds. In your world, what is wrong with what this guy did? You can’t seem to answer the question.

You haven't actually read a single word I've typed here.

Several folks claim they told Jordan of the guys behavior and he basically told them it just him being him. If Jordan knew and did nothing, to me he does not belong in Congress.

But since I don't know who's telling the truth. I cannot say that he definitely should resign. The whole point of the thread was to see if anyone on the right felt he should resign.

This was never about homosexuals, hell I don't even know if the dead guy was even gay! So I have no idea why this is all that seems to stick with you.

(02-13-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:42 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You're an idiot.

Ahhh, great reply from the one who loves to call out some others for similar replies. Hypocrite. Now answer the question. Are you a homophobe?

WTF does that have to do with anything here?

And FTR - We're now allowed to call idiots, idiots. Idiot.

It has everything to do with it. You want Jordan to resign because some old homo was doing what homos do and Jordan didn’t object, intervene and get the homo fired. AmIright?
The leftist twists themselves into pretzels and just can’t seem to make up their minds. In your world, what is wrong with what this guy did? You can’t seem to answer the question.

You haven't actually read a single word I've typed here.

Several folks claim they told Jordan of the guys behavior and he basically told them it just him being him. If Jordan knew and did nothing, to me he does not belong in Congress.

But since I don't know who's telling the truth. I cannot say that he definitely should resign. The whole point of the thread was to see if anyone on the right felt he should resign.

This was never about homosexuals, hell I don't even know if the dead guy was even gay! So I have no idea why this is all that seems to stick with you.

(02-13-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:42 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You're an idiot.

Ahhh, great reply from the one who loves to call out some others for similar replies. Hypocrite. Now answer the question. Are you a homophobe?

WTF does that have to do with anything here?

And FTR - We're now allowed to call idiots, idiots. Idiot.

It has everything to do with it. You want Jordan to resign because some old homo was doing what homos do and Jordan didn’t object, intervene and get the homo fired. AmIright?
The leftist twists themselves into pretzels and just can’t seem to make up their minds. In your world, what is wrong with what this guy did? You can’t seem to answer the question.

You haven't actually read a single word I've typed here.

Several folks claim they told Jordan of the guys behavior and he basically told them it just him being him. If Jordan knew and did nothing, to me he does not belong in Congress.

But since I don't know who's telling the truth. I cannot say that he definitely should resign. The whole point of the thread was to see if anyone on the right felt he should resign.

This was never about homosexuals, hell I don't even know if the dead guy was even gay! So I have no idea why this is all that seems to stick with you.

He didn't know anything except rumors you TDS Jordan hating nutjob. OSU knew about the guy since 1979.

(02-13-2020 01:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:42 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Ahhh, great reply from the one who loves to call out some others for similar replies. Hypocrite. Now answer the question. Are you a homophobe?

WTF does that have to do with anything here?

And FTR - We're now allowed to call idiots, idiots. Idiot.

It has everything to do with it. You want Jordan to resign because some old homo was doing what homos do and Jordan didn’t object, intervene and get the homo fired. AmIright?
The leftist twists themselves into pretzels and just can’t seem to make up their minds. In your world, what is wrong with what this guy did? You can’t seem to answer the question.

You haven't actually read a single word I've typed here.

Several folks claim they told Jordan of the guys behavior and he basically told them it just him being him. If Jordan knew and did nothing, to me he does not belong in Congress.

But since I don't know who's telling the truth. I cannot say that he definitely should resign. The whole point of the thread was to see if anyone on the right felt he should resign.

This was never about homosexuals, hell I don't even know if the dead guy was even gay! So I have no idea why this is all that seems to stick with you.

He didn't know anything except rumors you TDS Jordan hating nutjob. OSU knew about the guy since 1979.

Right...all the guys saying otherwise are lying and Jim is telling the truth. And you know this because why...because Jim's a Republican? I can't think of another reason why, you?

Tom he isn't resigning LOL.

(02-13-2020 02:25 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Tom he isn't resigning LOL.

No **** Sherlock!

(02-13-2020 12:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 12:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-08-2019 12:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Wasn't Jordan basically a graduate assistant wrestling coach back then? Hell, his job was basically to spar with guys and run select drills in practice, hand out singlets and help fold up the wrestling mats at the end of the practice. As someone who wrestled for many years, I can tell you guys like Jordan are basically practicing with the team for the most part and aren't there to be an enforcer/disciplianarian. What was he supposed to do and who would have listened to him? He could have gone to the head coach but as I recall from another article on this the head coach already knew.

Wow. The ole Joe Paterno Penn St. defense.
Gross.


I don't know if Jim is guilty or not, that's for the courts to say. And I won't pile on to the blame wagon without knowing more... but the above defense is was the same Penn St fans used to defende Joe Paterno. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

Hear something/see something, say something, do something.

Nope OSU admin had complaints and knew about the Doc since 79'. Now the Ref who might have told Jordan and the head coach that Doc was jacking off in the shower, why didn't he call the police? What is Jordan or the head coach supposed to do call the police and then the police say well tell the Ref to call us. Is jacking off a crime?
McQueary at PSU witnessed Sanduskey raping a kid in the shower I believe, going off of memory.

Good grief. So these college wrestlers saw an old dude whacking off in the shower and they are traumatized 20 years later and the grad assistant was responsible. Give me a frickin break. Lunatics

(02-13-2020 01:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 01:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 01:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  WTF does that have to do with anything here?

And FTR - We're now allowed to call idiots, idiots. Idiot.

It has everything to do with it. You want Jordan to resign because some old homo was doing what homos do and Jordan didn’t object, intervene and get the homo fired. AmIright?
The leftist twists themselves into pretzels and just can’t seem to make up their minds. In your world, what is wrong with what this guy did? You can’t seem to answer the question.

You haven't actually read a single word I've typed here.

Several folks claim they told Jordan of the guys behavior and he basically told them it just him being him. If Jordan knew and did nothing, to me he does not belong in Congress.

But since I don't know who's telling the truth. I cannot say that he definitely should resign. The whole point of the thread was to see if anyone on the right felt he should resign.

This was never about homosexuals, hell I don't even know if the dead guy was even gay! So I have no idea why this is all that seems to stick with you.

He didn't know anything except rumors you TDS Jordan hating nutjob. OSU knew about the guy since 1979.

Right...all the guys saying otherwise are lying and Jim is telling the truth. And you know this because why...because Jim's a Republican? I can't think of another reason why, you?

Yeah. Because he is a Republican. That's exactly why. They want a payday and they are Ohio lunatics.

What the hell is wrong with Big 10 folks?

(02-13-2020 03:04 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 12:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 12:41 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-08-2019 12:08 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Wasn't Jordan basically a graduate assistant wrestling coach back then? Hell, his job was basically to spar with guys and run select drills in practice, hand out singlets and help fold up the wrestling mats at the end of the practice. As someone who wrestled for many years, I can tell you guys like Jordan are basically practicing with the team for the most part and aren't there to be an enforcer/disciplianarian. What was he supposed to do and who would have listened to him? He could have gone to the head coach but as I recall from another article on this the head coach already knew.

Wow. The ole Joe Paterno Penn St. defense.
Gross.


I don't know if Jim is guilty or not, that's for the courts to say. And I won't pile on to the blame wagon without knowing more... but the above defense is was the same Penn St fans used to defende Joe Paterno. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

Hear something/see something, say something, do something.

Nope OSU admin had complaints and knew about the Doc since 79'. Now the Ref who might have told Jordan and the head coach that Doc was jacking off in the shower, why didn't he call the police? What is Jordan or the head coach supposed to do call the police and then the police say well tell the Ref to call us. Is jacking off a crime?
McQueary at PSU witnessed Sanduskey raping a kid in the shower I believe, going off of memory.

Good grief. So these college wrestlers saw an old dude whacking off in the shower and they are traumatized 20 years later and the grad assistant was responsible. Give me a frickin break. Lunatics

Said no one. Ever.