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(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
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(11-10-2019 09:18 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Its funny to me how its always some old guy whose mad or has something negative to say about pj, or feels the need to tell the world what pj is about.

meanwhile his players love him and he wins

DPGO----can you please clarify here....are you or are you not talking about Joe Novak in your "some old guy 'whose" mad" statement?

The article that started this whole chain was based around the TV special on PJ and that Joe literally was filmed for a long time and the editors ONLY put in his quote, paraphrasing, that he "wished PJ would tone it down." Terrible editing---three seconds and a quote that could be interpreted much differently than all of the praise he said he gave.

Apparently, PJ only saw that and has held it against Joe ever since and, to the story, they have never reconciled....and that was the purpose of this chain.

According to the story it doesn't appear Joe wants to tell what PJ is all about and one "negative" sentence was aired.

Please clarify......

I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?
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He can coach while standing on his head with his willy hanging out for all I care. However, people have the right to express their opinions on his antics. Whether they work or not, people have the right to love or hate him. He is successful at this point and that’s great for him. But, his antics and immaturity just rub some people the wrong way.
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(11-11-2019 08:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  He can coach while standing on his head with his willy hanging out for all I care. However, people have the right to express their opinions on his antics. Whether they work or not, people have the right to love or hate him. He is successful at this point and that’s great for him. But, his antics and immaturity just rub some people the wrong way.

He didn't say as much about them, as they've said about him. Wouldn't they be the immature ones in this scenario?
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(11-11-2019 08:50 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 12:04 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 09:18 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Its funny to me how its always some old guy whose mad or has something negative to say about pj, or feels the need to tell the world what pj is about.

meanwhile his players love him and he wins

DPGO----can you please clarify here....are you or are you not talking about Joe Novak in your "some old guy 'whose" mad" statement?

The article that started this whole chain was based around the TV special on PJ and that Joe literally was filmed for a long time and the editors ONLY put in his quote, paraphrasing, that he "wished PJ would tone it down." Terrible editing---three seconds and a quote that could be interpreted much differently than all of the praise he said he gave.

Apparently, PJ only saw that and has held it against Joe ever since and, to the story, they have never reconciled....and that was the purpose of this chain.

According to the story it doesn't appear Joe wants to tell what PJ is all about and one "negative" sentence was aired.

Please clarify......

I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?

It wasn’t “wrong”. It was his opinion. All he said was that he wished PJ would tone it down once in awhile. Hardly very negative, but, still his opinion isn’t wrong, you just may disagree with it. Seems to me PJ has some pretty thin skin if that bothered him to that degree. There are many ways to successfully coach a football team and PJ’s way works for him, but, many find it over the top......I would hope he understands that.
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(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:50 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 12:04 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 09:18 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Its funny to me how its always some old guy whose mad or has something negative to say about pj, or feels the need to tell the world what pj is about.

meanwhile his players love him and he wins

DPGO----can you please clarify here....are you or are you not talking about Joe Novak in your "some old guy 'whose" mad" statement?

The article that started this whole chain was based around the TV special on PJ and that Joe literally was filmed for a long time and the editors ONLY put in his quote, paraphrasing, that he "wished PJ would tone it down." Terrible editing---three seconds and a quote that could be interpreted much differently than all of the praise he said he gave.

Apparently, PJ only saw that and has held it against Joe ever since and, to the story, they have never reconciled....and that was the purpose of this chain.

According to the story it doesn't appear Joe wants to tell what PJ is all about and one "negative" sentence was aired.

Please clarify......

I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?

It wasn’t “wrong”. It was his opinion. All he said was that he wished PJ would tone it down once in awhile. Hardly very negative, but, still his opinion isn’t wrong, you just may disagree with it. Seems to me PJ has some pretty thin skin if that bothered him to that degree. There are many ways to successfully coach a football team and PJ’s way works for him, but, many find it over the top......I would hope he understands that.

Why the need to publically criticize? Why not be a man and tell him how you feel to his face? PJ responded privately, Kill and Novak made their marks publically. But instead of going public, he went the higher road. What makes any of that thin skinned?
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(11-11-2019 09:19 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:50 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 12:04 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  DPGO----can you please clarify here....are you or are you not talking about Joe Novak in your "some old guy 'whose" mad" statement?

The article that started this whole chain was based around the TV special on PJ and that Joe literally was filmed for a long time and the editors ONLY put in his quote, paraphrasing, that he "wished PJ would tone it down." Terrible editing---three seconds and a quote that could be interpreted much differently than all of the praise he said he gave.

Apparently, PJ only saw that and has held it against Joe ever since and, to the story, they have never reconciled....and that was the purpose of this chain.

According to the story it doesn't appear Joe wants to tell what PJ is all about and one "negative" sentence was aired.

Please clarify......

I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?

It wasn’t “wrong”. It was his opinion. All he said was that he wished PJ would tone it down once in awhile. Hardly very negative, but, still his opinion isn’t wrong, you just may disagree with it. Seems to me PJ has some pretty thin skin if that bothered him to that degree. There are many ways to successfully coach a football team and PJ’s way works for him, but, many find it over the top......I would hope he understands that.

Why the need to publically criticize? Why not be a man and tell him how you feel to his face? PJ responded privately, Kill and Novak made their marks publically. But instead of going public, he went the higher road. What makes any of that thin skinned?

Because this is America and people talk openly in public about a variety of things a million times more important than this .. lol. Dude get a grip.
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RE: PJ Fleck needs to fix this or he's ...
(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:50 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 12:04 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 09:18 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Its funny to me how its always some old guy whose mad or has something negative to say about pj, or feels the need to tell the world what pj is about.

meanwhile his players love him and he wins

DPGO----can you please clarify here....are you or are you not talking about Joe Novak in your "some old guy 'whose" mad" statement?

The article that started this whole chain was based around the TV special on PJ and that Joe literally was filmed for a long time and the editors ONLY put in his quote, paraphrasing, that he "wished PJ would tone it down." Terrible editing---three seconds and a quote that could be interpreted much differently than all of the praise he said he gave.

Apparently, PJ only saw that and has held it against Joe ever since and, to the story, they have never reconciled....and that was the purpose of this chain.

According to the story it doesn't appear Joe wants to tell what PJ is all about and one "negative" sentence was aired.

Please clarify......

I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?

It wasn’t “wrong”. It was his opinion. All he said was that he wished PJ would tone it down once in awhile. Hardly very negative, but, still his opinion isn’t wrong, you just may disagree with it. Seems to me PJ has some pretty thin skin if that bothered him to that degree. There are many ways to successfully coach a football team and PJ’s way works for him, but, many find it over the top......I would hope he understands that.

I disagree. it was wrong, here's why I think that

Upon being given the grapefruit/softball press piece to talk in a positive light about a former player and staff member turned successful coach, you take that opportunity to say, "I wish he would tone it down", nothing could be more wrong in that moment than that, cause why wouldnt the former coach take that shot? He's Joe Novak, he should have damn well known better than to say that in a damn media fluff piece.

And of course the media will run with that quote, you know why? Because its RIDICULOUS, they went to get fluff, and got, "tone it down" - hi coach fleck, one of your previous coaches/mentors thinks you should tone it down, what do you think about that?

So now imagine Fleck's angle, probably hoping his former coach would have positive things to say about him, you know at this point he's been doing a pretty good job, success at WMU, turning some corners at MIN, and what does he get

"wish you would tone it down."

No problem with Novak having an opinion, but think about it, the press calls you to say, can we interview and talk about coach fleck, and that's what you come out with? Let me bring out my tone it down opinion about a guy who is having immense success not toning it down
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(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:50 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 12:04 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 09:18 AM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  Its funny to me how its always some old guy whose mad or has something negative to say about pj, or feels the need to tell the world what pj is about.

meanwhile his players love him and he wins

DPGO----can you please clarify here....are you or are you not talking about Joe Novak in your "some old guy 'whose" mad" statement?

The article that started this whole chain was based around the TV special on PJ and that Joe literally was filmed for a long time and the editors ONLY put in his quote, paraphrasing, that he "wished PJ would tone it down." Terrible editing---three seconds and a quote that could be interpreted much differently than all of the praise he said he gave.

Apparently, PJ only saw that and has held it against Joe ever since and, to the story, they have never reconciled....and that was the purpose of this chain.

According to the story it doesn't appear Joe wants to tell what PJ is all about and one "negative" sentence was aired.

Please clarify......

I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?

It wasn’t “wrong”. It was his opinion. All he said was that he wished PJ would tone it down once in awhile. Hardly very negative, but, still his opinion isn’t wrong, you just may disagree with it. Seems to me PJ has some pretty thin skin if that bothered him to that degree. There are many ways to successfully coach a football team and PJ’s way works for him, but, many find it over the top......I would hope he understands that.

I disagree. it was wrong, here's why I think that

Upon being given the grapefruit/softball press piece to talk in a positive light about a former player and staff member turned successful coach, you take that opportunity to say, "I wish he would tone it down", nothing could be more wrong in that moment than that, cause why wouldnt the former coach take that shot? He's Joe Novak, he should have damn well known better than to say that in a damn media fluff piece.

And of course the media will run with that quote, you know why? Because its RIDICULOUS, they went to get fluff, and got, "tone it down" - hi coach fleck, one of your previous coaches/mentors thinks you should tone it down, what do you think about that?

So now imagine Fleck's angle, probably hoping his former coach would have positive things to say about him, you know at this point he's been doing a pretty good job, success at WMU, turning some corners at MIN, and what does he get

"wish you would tone it down."

No problem with Novak having an opinion, but think about it, the press calls you to say, can we interview and talk about coach fleck, and that's what you come out with? Let me bring out my tone it down opinion about a guy who is having immense success not toning it down
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(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  He can coach while standing on his head with his willy hanging out for all I care. However, people have the right to express their opinions on his antics. Whether they work or not, people have the right to love or hate him. He is successful at this point and that’s great for him. But, his antics and immaturity just rub some people the wrong way.

He didn't say as much about them, as they've said about him. Wouldn't they be the immature ones in this scenario?


He’s a public figure. People can say what they want about him as long as it’s not offensive or slanderous. If PJ doesn’t like it, he needs to understand that he’s a public figure who happens to row his boat differently from other people. Not everyone likes him and they have the right to express their opinions, just like we all do on this board.
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(11-11-2019 09:31 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  He can coach while standing on his head with his willy hanging out for all I care. However, people have the right to express their opinions on his antics. Whether they work or not, people have the right to love or hate him. He is successful at this point and that’s great for him. But, his antics and immaturity just rub some people the wrong way.

He didn't say as much about them, as they've said about him. Wouldn't they be the immature ones in this scenario?


He’s a public figure. People can say what they want about him as long as it’s not offensive or slanderous. If PJ doesn’t like it, he needs to understand that he’s a public figure who happens to row his boat differently from other people. Not everyone likes him and they have the right to express their opinions, just like we all do on this board.

If that's the case. Why can't he express his opinion privately on Kill and Novak? He's done enough ring kissing and rows his own boat now.
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(11-11-2019 09:27 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:50 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 12:04 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  DPGO----can you please clarify here....are you or are you not talking about Joe Novak in your "some old guy 'whose" mad" statement?

The article that started this whole chain was based around the TV special on PJ and that Joe literally was filmed for a long time and the editors ONLY put in his quote, paraphrasing, that he "wished PJ would tone it down." Terrible editing---three seconds and a quote that could be interpreted much differently than all of the praise he said he gave.

Apparently, PJ only saw that and has held it against Joe ever since and, to the story, they have never reconciled....and that was the purpose of this chain.

According to the story it doesn't appear Joe wants to tell what PJ is all about and one "negative" sentence was aired.

Please clarify......

I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?

It wasn’t “wrong”. It was his opinion. All he said was that he wished PJ would tone it down once in awhile. Hardly very negative, but, still his opinion isn’t wrong, you just may disagree with it. Seems to me PJ has some pretty thin skin if that bothered him to that degree. There are many ways to successfully coach a football team and PJ’s way works for him, but, many find it over the top......I would hope he understands that.

I disagree. it was wrong, here's why I think that

Upon being given the grapefruit/softball press piece to talk in a positive light about a former player and staff member turned successful coach, you take that opportunity to say, "I wish he would tone it down", nothing could be more wrong in that moment than that, cause why wouldnt the former coach take that shot? He's Joe Novak, he should have damn well known better than to say that in a damn media fluff piece.

And of course the media will run with that quote, you know why? Because its RIDICULOUS, they went to get fluff, and got, "tone it down" - hi coach fleck, one of your previous coaches/mentors thinks you should tone it down, what do you think about that?

So now imagine Fleck's angle, probably hoping his former coach would have positive things to say about him, you know at this point he's been doing a pretty good job, success at WMU, turning some corners at MIN, and what does he get

"wish you would tone it down."

No problem with Novak having an opinion, but think about it, the press calls you to say, can we interview and talk about coach fleck, and that's what you come out with? Let me bring out my tone it down opinion about a guy who is having immense success not toning it down

They interviewed him for over half an hour and then used ONLY that clip. All of the rest of the interview was nothing but positive about PJ. That wasn’t ”what he came out with”, it was just all they used.
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(11-11-2019 09:40 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:27 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:50 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:33 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  I clarify by saying Joe Novak was wrong, even if it was a snippet of bad editing, he did say it, and it was negative, and it was wrong. Dont think he has ill will, but it was wrong, he doesn't get a pass because he's coach Joe Novak. Hopefully they make up some day, cant believe either cares at this point.

Jerry Kill was wrong, Dave Doeren was wrong.

All have had negative things to say about PJ at some point, most notably Jerry Kill

Meanwhile, his players love him and he wins

I concur. Let the man do his thing. Why the criticism if what he's doing works and doesn't harm anyone else?

It wasn’t “wrong”. It was his opinion. All he said was that he wished PJ would tone it down once in awhile. Hardly very negative, but, still his opinion isn’t wrong, you just may disagree with it. Seems to me PJ has some pretty thin skin if that bothered him to that degree. There are many ways to successfully coach a football team and PJ’s way works for him, but, many find it over the top......I would hope he understands that.

I disagree. it was wrong, here's why I think that

Upon being given the grapefruit/softball press piece to talk in a positive light about a former player and staff member turned successful coach, you take that opportunity to say, "I wish he would tone it down", nothing could be more wrong in that moment than that, cause why wouldnt the former coach take that shot? He's Joe Novak, he should have damn well known better than to say that in a damn media fluff piece.

And of course the media will run with that quote, you know why? Because its RIDICULOUS, they went to get fluff, and got, "tone it down" - hi coach fleck, one of your previous coaches/mentors thinks you should tone it down, what do you think about that?

So now imagine Fleck's angle, probably hoping his former coach would have positive things to say about him, you know at this point he's been doing a pretty good job, success at WMU, turning some corners at MIN, and what does he get

"wish you would tone it down."

No problem with Novak having an opinion, but think about it, the press calls you to say, can we interview and talk about coach fleck, and that's what you come out with? Let me bring out my tone it down opinion about a guy who is having immense success not toning it down

They interviewed him for over half an hour and then used ONLY that clip. All of the rest of the interview was nothing but positive about PJ. That wasn’t ”what he came out with”, it was just all they used.

True. But why not have that convo with Fleck in person. Instead of say, with the media. Of whom as a D1 coach, you'd have to know how they would have flipped that tidbit.
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(11-11-2019 09:34 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:31 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  He can coach while standing on his head with his willy hanging out for all I care. However, people have the right to express their opinions on his antics. Whether they work or not, people have the right to love or hate him. He is successful at this point and that’s great for him. But, his antics and immaturity just rub some people the wrong way.

He didn't say as much about them, as they've said about him. Wouldn't they be the immature ones in this scenario?


He’s a public figure. People can say what they want about him as long as it’s not offensive or slanderous. If PJ doesn’t like it, he needs to understand that he’s a public figure who happens to row his boat differently from other people. Not everyone likes him and they have the right to express their opinions, just like we all do on this board.

If that's the case. Why can't he express his opinion privately on Kill and Novak? He's done enough ring kissing and rows his own boat now.


He can even express his opinions publicly. And Kill and Novak don’t need to kiss his arse just because he’s a hotshot Big 10 coach. If they don’t like his antics, they are free to say it. And, if he wants to tell them where to go, he’s free to do it. People have the right to dislike PJ - and say it - and to not bow down and worship at the pedestal he sits on. Novak has no obligation or need to apologize for a mild statement that was pulled out from a boatload of compliments. PJ needs to get thicker skin if he’s offended by any criticism.
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They interviewed him for over half an hour and then used ONLY that clip. All of the rest of the interview was nothing but positive about PJ. That wasn’t ”what he came out with”, it was just all they used.
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True. But why not have that convo with Fleck in person. Instead of say, with the media. Of whom as a D1 coach, you'd have to know how they would have flipped that tidbit.
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Agreed, long interview, they picked a snip, but of course they are picking that snip, its you questioning the strategy of your underling who they came to you for a fluff piece on. Its not hard, dont say that.

Wish our former huskies could just always be supportive instead of what we have now, a bunch of guys who think they are owed something.
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(11-11-2019 09:50 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:34 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:31 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 09:10 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 08:56 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  He can coach while standing on his head with his willy hanging out for all I care. However, people have the right to express their opinions on his antics. Whether they work or not, people have the right to love or hate him. He is successful at this point and that’s great for him. But, his antics and immaturity just rub some people the wrong way.

He didn't say as much about them, as they've said about him. Wouldn't they be the immature ones in this scenario?


He’s a public figure. People can say what they want about him as long as it’s not offensive or slanderous. If PJ doesn’t like it, he needs to understand that he’s a public figure who happens to row his boat differently from other people. Not everyone likes him and they have the right to express their opinions, just like we all do on this board.

If that's the case. Why can't he express his opinion privately on Kill and Novak? He's done enough ring kissing and rows his own boat now.


He can even express his opinions publicly. And Kill and Novak don’t need to kiss his arse just because he’s a hotshot Big 10 coach. If they don’t like his antics, they are free to say it. And, if he wants to tell them where to go, he’s free to do it. People have the right to dislike PJ - and say it - and to not bow down and worship at the pedestal he sits on. Novak has no obligation or need to apologize for a mild statement that was pulled out from a boatload of compliments. PJ needs to get thicker skin if he’s offended by any criticism.

PJ isn't saying anything about it. He's busy running a successful football team. And again, Novak is talking to the media about it....
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(11-11-2019 10:07 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  They interviewed him for over half an hour and then used ONLY that clip. All of the rest of the interview was nothing but positive about PJ. That wasn’t ”what he came out with”, it was just all they used.

True. But why not have that convo with Fleck in person. Instead of say, with the media. Of whom as a D1 coach, you'd have to know how they would have flipped that tidbit.
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Agreed, long interview, they picked a snip, but of course they are picking that snip, its you questioning the strategy of your underling who they came to you for a fluff piece on. Its not hard, dont say that.

Wish our former huskies could just always be supportive instead of what we have now, a bunch of guys who think they are owed something.
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I find absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and how do you know Novak hasn’t had that same conversation privately with PJ?

I would offer that we have more than worn out this topic.
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(11-11-2019 10:38 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 10:07 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  They interviewed him for over half an hour and then used ONLY that clip. All of the rest of the interview was nothing but positive about PJ. That wasn’t ”what he came out with”, it was just all they used.

True. But why not have that convo with Fleck in person. Instead of say, with the media. Of whom as a D1 coach, you'd have to know how they would have flipped that tidbit.

Agreed, long interview, they picked a snip, but of course they are picking that snip, its you questioning the strategy of your underling who they came to you for a fluff piece on. Its not hard, dont say that.

Wish our former huskies could just always be supportive instead of what we have now, a bunch of guys who think they are owed something.
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I find absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and how do you Novak hasn’t had that same conversation privately with PJ?

I would offer that we have more than worn out this topic.
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I dont and neither do you

agreed on worn out

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Without access to the full interview we don't know the context of the question. Some of you are acting as if he went out of his way to talk about PJ's antics. For all we know he was asked directly - "what do you think of PJ's antics?". And laughed it off with a light hearted joking response. PJ knows Novak well enough to know how he would feel. It's like asking a parent how they feel about their kids music or something. You know the response. If they say something else you also know they're lying. The best honest response would have been - "it works for him"...and anyone with common sense knows that is a backhanded compliment and disingenuous.
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DPGO---

First, thank you very much for the clarification. Just so you know, I asked the question so I did not take your "old man...negative" statement out of context.

To me, it's somewhat sad that you would cast that on the person that is the single most point of reference when it comes to building the program we have had here over the past 20 years. And we will take that as gospel as your said it much like Joe had one line when asked about PJ.

Somewhere in the recesses of your mind--I am willing to bet, as you have been on here before---you probably have something good to say about Joe Novak---but since only one snippet was seen, we here have to take it as the truth.

I really didn't mean to start an avalanche here and truly appreciate your clarification.
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So much blabber and blather about nothing. This board really is desperate for something real to discuss. Are we back in the summer 'tween-season doldrums again? PJ and Novak aren't here any more. Wish PJ success at Minnesota. Wish Joe an enjoyable retirement. Now, how about Iowa state game tonight, Toledo game tomorrow night, wbb game Sunday? These are real events involving THE HUSKIES right now.
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