Has anyone tried Doug Flute Maximum Football?

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(11-07-2019 03:22 PM)moonshine Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 02:04 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  I don’t understand why they can’t just reverse the players color and change the numbers around and just release it. You can customize it if you want. After 4 years of dynasty, all the “real” players are gone anyway

Agreed. I've never understood why another company didn't make a generic college football game like they did before NCAA '98 that was released in 1997. Allow players to customize teams' names, rosters, stadiums, jerseys, conferences etc... Just make sure there is no reference to the NCAA or the actual program. Call it "10 Yard Fight College Edition" or "Techmo College Bowl" or "Play Action College Football" or "American College Football" or revert back the 96 & 97 versions of "College Football USA". Teams would be named after their city/town: Tuscaloosa Elephants, Greenville Cats, Austin Steers, Atlanta Bees, Tallahassee Natives, Ann Arbor Skunk Bears, Madison Honey Badgers...

These guys have been trying to put something out for a while now.
https://www.imackulatevisiongaming.com/g...nchampions


As for changes or improvements, I'd like to see fans storming the field and tearing down the goal posts after a big win a la Bill Walsh's CF on the Sega Genesis. I'd like them to add an AD element where smaller programs have to build fan bases/ticket sales leading to stadium expansions and if you're having a bad year, attendance/revenue drops making it tougher to hire/fire coaches and impact recruiting. If all the licensing happens, I'd like to see ESPN's CGD be involved and make it apart of the game. Maybe have Corso putting on mascot heads before he's gone.

That's what Maximum Football just did...

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(11-07-2019 05:46 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Hopefully someone besides EA does is, they have a very broad reputation for not being customer friendly. I refuse to buy anything EA.


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In the early 2000s, 2k Sports had extremely good NCAAF games on XBOX. Of course, 2k for the past decade has been a shell of what it was through 2005.

For me, it’s all about making the dynasty mode good. I need flexibility with conferences to revive SWC, BIG EAST, etc. Allow up to 10 conference games. Allow FCS call-ups. I could care less about player ratings.

I hope they bring back the ncaa basketball game too

(11-07-2019 06:31 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So with this changing tide of allowing athletes to be paid for their likeness it's only a matter of time before we get NCAA video games back in our lives. So the point of this thread is what would you like to see come back? (FB is a given BBall not as certain and Baseball not likely but i'd love to see that again) What changes to the games would you like to see?

I would love to see the ability to edit conferences more. Let us edit the names and structure of the leagues with the ability to add up to 20 teams or break the conferences into more than 2 divisions. As well as being able to create new conferences and not be stuck working within the current # of conferences. I'd also like an easier way to create new teams and add them into the mix. The last thing i'd want is the ability to expand the playoff to as big as I like or at the least expand it to double digit teams.

Lets hear what you guys want to see moving forward!

Originally, I didn't think that the game needed anything, but mulling it over in my mind, I believe that EA NCAA Football could use some changes. For FCS teams, they have some generic name for them like FCS Southeast, FCS Northwest, or something. I would rather that EA actually take the time to add real FCS teams. A lot of FCS fans have already made pretty good versions of their teams on team builder; why not just go the rest of the way and add FCS to the mix???
Also, I would like the option to change conference games around. That has never been an option before.

As for NCAA basketball, I would love it to come back also with custom conference options, and a team builder so you can add a Division 2 team if you wanted to.

(11-13-2019 12:10 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 06:31 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So with this changing tide of allowing athletes to be paid for their likeness it's only a matter of time before we get NCAA video games back in our lives. So the point of this thread is what would you like to see come back? (FB is a given BBall not as certain and Baseball not likely but i'd love to see that again) What changes to the games would you like to see?

I would love to see the ability to edit conferences more. Let us edit the names and structure of the leagues with the ability to add up to 20 teams or break the conferences into more than 2 divisions. As well as being able to create new conferences and not be stuck working within the current # of conferences. I'd also like an easier way to create new teams and add them into the mix. The last thing i'd want is the ability to expand the playoff to as big as I like or at the least expand it to double digit teams.

Lets hear what you guys want to see moving forward!

Originally, I didn't think that the game needed anything, but mulling it over in my mind, I believe that EA NCAA Football could use some changes. For FCS teams, they have some generic name for them like FCS Southeast, FCS Northwest, or something. I would rather that EA actually take the time to add real FCS teams. A lot of FCS fans have already made pretty good versions of their teams on team builder; why not just go the rest of the way and add FCS to the mix???
Also, I would like the option to change conference games around. That has never been an option before.

As for NCAA basketball, I would love it to come back also with custom conference options, and a team builder so you can add a Division 2 team if you wanted to.

I wish they could add D2 and D3 and allow them to move up. Make it a bit more realistic

(11-13-2019 02:30 PM)KingSean Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 12:10 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 06:31 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So with this changing tide of allowing athletes to be paid for their likeness it's only a matter of time before we get NCAA video games back in our lives. So the point of this thread is what would you like to see come back? (FB is a given BBall not as certain and Baseball not likely but i'd love to see that again) What changes to the games would you like to see?

I would love to see the ability to edit conferences more. Let us edit the names and structure of the leagues with the ability to add up to 20 teams or break the conferences into more than 2 divisions. As well as being able to create new conferences and not be stuck working within the current # of conferences. I'd also like an easier way to create new teams and add them into the mix. The last thing i'd want is the ability to expand the playoff to as big as I like or at the least expand it to double digit teams.

Lets hear what you guys want to see moving forward!

Originally, I didn't think that the game needed anything, but mulling it over in my mind, I believe that EA NCAA Football could use some changes. For FCS teams, they have some generic name for them like FCS Southeast, FCS Northwest, or something. I would rather that EA actually take the time to add real FCS teams. A lot of FCS fans have already made pretty good versions of their teams on team builder; why not just go the rest of the way and add FCS to the mix???
Also, I would like the option to change conference games around. That has never been an option before.

As for NCAA basketball, I would love it to come back also with custom conference options, and a team builder so you can add a Division 2 team if you wanted to.

I wish they could add D2 and D3 and allow them to move up. Make it a bit more realistic

They're saving that for the release of David St 2022

(11-13-2019 03:21 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 02:30 PM)KingSean Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 12:10 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 06:31 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So with this changing tide of allowing athletes to be paid for their likeness it's only a matter of time before we get NCAA video games back in our lives. So the point of this thread is what would you like to see come back? (FB is a given BBall not as certain and Baseball not likely but i'd love to see that again) What changes to the games would you like to see?

I would love to see the ability to edit conferences more. Let us edit the names and structure of the leagues with the ability to add up to 20 teams or break the conferences into more than 2 divisions. As well as being able to create new conferences and not be stuck working within the current # of conferences. I'd also like an easier way to create new teams and add them into the mix. The last thing i'd want is the ability to expand the playoff to as big as I like or at the least expand it to double digit teams.

Lets hear what you guys want to see moving forward!

Originally, I didn't think that the game needed anything, but mulling it over in my mind, I believe that EA NCAA Football could use some changes. For FCS teams, they have some generic name for them like FCS Southeast, FCS Northwest, or something. I would rather that EA actually take the time to add real FCS teams. A lot of FCS fans have already made pretty good versions of their teams on team builder; why not just go the rest of the way and add FCS to the mix???
Also, I would like the option to change conference games around. That has never been an option before.

As for NCAA basketball, I would love it to come back also with custom conference options, and a team builder so you can add a Division 2 team if you wanted to.

I wish they could add D2 and D3 and allow them to move up. Make it a bit more realistic

They're saving that for the release of David St 2022

(11-13-2019 12:10 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 06:31 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So with this changing tide of allowing athletes to be paid for their likeness it's only a matter of time before we get NCAA video games back in our lives. So the point of this thread is what would you like to see come back? (FB is a given BBall not as certain and Baseball not likely but i'd love to see that again) What changes to the games would you like to see?

I would love to see the ability to edit conferences more. Let us edit the names and structure of the leagues with the ability to add up to 20 teams or break the conferences into more than 2 divisions. As well as being able to create new conferences and not be stuck working within the current # of conferences. I'd also like an easier way to create new teams and add them into the mix. The last thing i'd want is the ability to expand the playoff to as big as I like or at the least expand it to double digit teams.

Lets hear what you guys want to see moving forward!

Originally, I didn't think that the game needed anything, but mulling it over in my mind, I believe that EA NCAA Football could use some changes. For FCS teams, they have some generic name for them like FCS Southeast, FCS Northwest, or something. I would rather that EA actually take the time to add real FCS teams. A lot of FCS fans have already made pretty good versions of their teams on team builder; why not just go the rest of the way and add FCS to the mix???
Also, I would like the option to change conference games around. That has never been an option before.

As for NCAA basketball, I would love it to come back also with custom conference options, and a team builder so you can add a Division 2 team if you wanted to.

Agree on FCS teams - that was in some earlier versions of the game. I distinctly remember putting Western Carolina in CUSA and then them ultimately getting invited to the Big East and then ACC after a few national titles.

I think the later versions let you pretty much customize conference rules. You could change teams, number of games, and permanent opponents every year

(11-13-2019 03:21 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 02:30 PM)KingSean Wrote:  

(11-13-2019 12:10 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 06:31 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So with this changing tide of allowing athletes to be paid for their likeness it's only a matter of time before we get NCAA video games back in our lives. So the point of this thread is what would you like to see come back? (FB is a given BBall not as certain and Baseball not likely but i'd love to see that again) What changes to the games would you like to see?

I would love to see the ability to edit conferences more. Let us edit the names and structure of the leagues with the ability to add up to 20 teams or break the conferences into more than 2 divisions. As well as being able to create new conferences and not be stuck working within the current # of conferences. I'd also like an easier way to create new teams and add them into the mix. The last thing i'd want is the ability to expand the playoff to as big as I like or at the least expand it to double digit teams.

Lets hear what you guys want to see moving forward!

Originally, I didn't think that the game needed anything, but mulling it over in my mind, I believe that EA NCAA Football could use some changes. For FCS teams, they have some generic name for them like FCS Southeast, FCS Northwest, or something. I would rather that EA actually take the time to add real FCS teams. A lot of FCS fans have already made pretty good versions of their teams on team builder; why not just go the rest of the way and add FCS to the mix???
Also, I would like the option to change conference games around. That has never been an option before.

As for NCAA basketball, I would love it to come back also with custom conference options, and a team builder so you can add a Division 2 team if you wanted to.

I wish they could add D2 and D3 and allow them to move up. Make it a bit more realistic

They're saving that for the release of David St 2022

Personally, I can't wait to create the Great Northern Conference and resurrect WAC Football.

(11-07-2019 04:32 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 02:04 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  I don’t understand why they can’t just reverse the players color and change the numbers around and just release it. You can customize it if you want. After 4 years of dynasty, all the “real” players are gone anyway

If they just released it with completely randomized rosters but with authentic stadiums, uniforms, announcers, music, etc. it would sell just fine.

I think that actually speaks to something the "we need a minor league" folks miss - no one actually cares that much about seeing future NFL players or the best athletes, they just want to support their favorite teams.

I think that may work in year 1 since there’s pent up demand after having had several years without any type of college football game available. However, the primary value of all sports games to companies like EA Sports is the ability to sell a new version every year and updating the rosters with a realistic reflection of what’s occurring on the field in real life is the most essential part of that annual purchase. As a father with two 10-year kids that are very much into video games, giving Alabama and Clemson random rosters that aren’t any better than the rosters at UMass and Rutgers just won’t work... and once you start making Bama and Clemson better in those games like they are in real life, you definitely get into use of likeness issues no much how much you try to give players different numbers or facial features.

The rosters may not matter much to the “old guys” like us here, but they’re critical to the younger generation that buys way more video games. Kids are very much more followers of individual players as opposed to teams compared to us and the whole allure of a sports video game is to “be” LeBron, Steph Curry, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, etc., and they’d want to “be” Tua or Jalen Hurts in the college context. That’s what gets people to fork over money for a new game annually.

(11-14-2019 09:34 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 04:32 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 02:04 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  I don’t understand why they can’t just reverse the players color and change the numbers around and just release it. You can customize it if you want. After 4 years of dynasty, all the “real” players are gone anyway

If they just released it with completely randomized rosters but with authentic stadiums, uniforms, announcers, music, etc. it would sell just fine.

I think that actually speaks to something the "we need a minor league" folks miss - no one actually cares that much about seeing future NFL players or the best athletes, they just want to support their favorite teams.

I think that may work in year 1 since there’s pent up demand after having had several years without any type of college football game available. However, the primary value of all sports games to companies like EA Sports is the ability to sell a new version every year and updating the rosters with a realistic reflection of what’s occurring on the field in real life is the most essential part of that annual purchase. As a father with two 10-year kids that are very much into video games, giving Alabama and Clemson random rosters that aren’t any better than the rosters at UMass and Rutgers just won’t work... and once you start making Bama and Clemson better in those games like they are in real life, you definitely get into use of likeness issues no much how much you try to give players different numbers or facial features.

The rosters may not matter much to the “old guys” like us here, but they’re critical to the younger generation that buys way more video games. Kids are very much more followers of individual players as opposed to teams compared to us and the whole allure of a sports video game is to “be” LeBron, Steph Curry, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, etc., and they’d want to “be” Tua or Jalen Hurts in the college context. That’s what gets people to fork over money for a new game annually.

I think there's more to it than that. NCAA Football rosters are easily customized, so you can have an up-to-date roster with correct names and numbers and a good-faith effort at replicating their skill sets with an older game, so long as you (or some good samaritan online) puts in the work. I'm sure there's plenty of people playing NCAA 2014 with 2019-ready rosters. If EA or another maker thought updated rosters were the driver for sales, they wouldn't allow you to mess with yours, or at the very least they wouldn't let you download them so you had to do all the dirty work yourself.

Marketing of annual sports games has always been about exploiting FOMO, even if it only entails minor or hard-to-quantify changes. Improved career mode! Updated stadiums! A new swim-move animation! The Jacksonville Jaguars' newest alternate uniform? Two new mini-games that you almost certainly won't play after the first week! But since the die is cast with regards to putting out new games instead of updating and upgrading existing ones like Fortnite or Grand Theft Auto 5, they're going to keep on sticking AAA price tags on barely changed games because it's 60 bucks per, and if you don't do it, someone else will and you'll be stuck with the perception of old product.

The next generation of college-sports games probably won't be THAT much different from the pre-O'Bannon ones, except that you'll get faces and the stats will come from the gamemaker and not IYeetH8ers_420_69. Otherwise, it'll follow the grand tradition of using last year's Madden and making college-friendly modifications.

(11-14-2019 12:24 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(11-14-2019 09:34 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 04:32 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 02:04 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  I don’t understand why they can’t just reverse the players color and change the numbers around and just release it. You can customize it if you want. After 4 years of dynasty, all the “real” players are gone anyway

If they just released it with completely randomized rosters but with authentic stadiums, uniforms, announcers, music, etc. it would sell just fine.

I think that actually speaks to something the "we need a minor league" folks miss - no one actually cares that much about seeing future NFL players or the best athletes, they just want to support their favorite teams.

I think that may work in year 1 since there’s pent up demand after having had several years without any type of college football game available. However, the primary value of all sports games to companies like EA Sports is the ability to sell a new version every year and updating the rosters with a realistic reflection of what’s occurring on the field in real life is the most essential part of that annual purchase. As a father with two 10-year kids that are very much into video games, giving Alabama and Clemson random rosters that aren’t any better than the rosters at UMass and Rutgers just won’t work... and once you start making Bama and Clemson better in those games like they are in real life, you definitely get into use of likeness issues no much how much you try to give players different numbers or facial features.

The rosters may not matter much to the “old guys” like us here, but they’re critical to the younger generation that buys way more video games. Kids are very much more followers of individual players as opposed to teams compared to us and the whole allure of a sports video game is to “be” LeBron, Steph Curry, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, etc., and they’d want to “be” Tua or Jalen Hurts in the college context. That’s what gets people to fork over money for a new game annually.

I think there's more to it than that. NCAA Football rosters are easily customized, so you can have an up-to-date roster with correct names and numbers and a good-faith effort at replicating their skill sets with an older game, so long as you (or some good samaritan online) puts in the work. I'm sure there's plenty of people playing NCAA 2014 with 2019-ready rosters.

I am one of those playing NCAA 2014 with 2019-ready rosters!!

(11-14-2019 09:34 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 04:32 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 02:04 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  I don’t understand why they can’t just reverse the players color and change the numbers around and just release it. You can customize it if you want. After 4 years of dynasty, all the “real” players are gone anyway

If they just released it with completely randomized rosters but with authentic stadiums, uniforms, announcers, music, etc. it would sell just fine.

I think that actually speaks to something the "we need a minor league" folks miss - no one actually cares that much about seeing future NFL players or the best athletes, they just want to support their favorite teams.

I think that may work in year 1 since there’s pent up demand after having had several years without any type of college football game available. However, the primary value of all sports games to companies like EA Sports is the ability to sell a new version every year and updating the rosters with a realistic reflection of what’s occurring on the field in real life is the most essential part of that annual purchase. As a father with two 10-year kids that are very much into video games, giving Alabama and Clemson random rosters that aren’t any better than the rosters at UMass and Rutgers just won’t work... and once you start making Bama and Clemson better in those games like they are in real life, you definitely get into use of likeness issues no much how much you try to give players different numbers or facial features.

The rosters may not matter much to the “old guys” like us here, but they’re critical to the younger generation that buys way more video games. Kids are very much more followers of individual players as opposed to teams compared to us and the whole allure of a sports video game is to “be” LeBron, Steph Curry, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, etc., and they’d want to “be” Tua or Jalen Hurts in the college context. That’s what gets people to fork over money for a new game annually.

Not just kids, i'm almost 40 and I don't want generic anything. Thats some old school 16 bit BS. I want my school and all the other FBS schools at the very least with real players.

I agree with yiou about year 1, it'll probably be a skeleton of what we'll get in the years afterwards just so they can cash in on everyones hunger for a CFB game.

I'd also like for EA to use the NFL stadiums that are used by college teams like Temple and USF as well as the NFL stadiums used for bowl games like in New Orleans and Miami since they already have those stadiums made from their Madden series.

Since they already have the NFLPA license couldn’t they just plug all the NFL guys in at their Alma Maters? I know it’s not ideal, but it would fill out the teams.

The rest of the rosters could be generic I suppose. Then just edit people as you wish.

(11-13-2019 12:10 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(11-07-2019 06:31 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  So with this changing tide of allowing athletes to be paid for their likeness it's only a matter of time before we get NCAA video games back in our lives. So the point of this thread is what would you like to see come back? (FB is a given BBall not as certain and Baseball not likely but i'd love to see that again) What changes to the games would you like to see?

I would love to see the ability to edit conferences more. Let us edit the names and structure of the leagues with the ability to add up to 20 teams or break the conferences into more than 2 divisions. As well as being able to create new conferences and not be stuck working within the current # of conferences. I'd also like an easier way to create new teams and add them into the mix. The last thing i'd want is the ability to expand the playoff to as big as I like or at the least expand it to double digit teams.

Lets hear what you guys want to see moving forward!

Originally, I didn't think that the game needed anything, but mulling it over in my mind, I believe that EA NCAA Football could use some changes. For FCS teams, they have some generic name for them like FCS Southeast, FCS Northwest, or something. I would rather that EA actually take the time to add real FCS teams. A lot of FCS fans have already made pretty good versions of their teams on team builder; why not just go the rest of the way and add FCS to the mix???
Also, I would like the option to change conference games around. That has never been an option before.

As for NCAA basketball, I would love it to come back also with custom conference options, and a team builder so you can add a Division 2 team if you wanted to.

The PS2 generation games had all the FCS teams. You could substitute them into the FBS conferences and also play games against named FCS teams instead of the generic FCS Regional teams that populated the PS3 generation.

(11-15-2019 11:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  Since they already have the NFLPA license couldn’t they just plug all the NFL guys in at their Alma Maters? I know it’s not ideal, but it would fill out the teams.

The rest of the rosters could be generic I suppose. Then just edit people as you wish.

But most college teams, even the most legendary ones, were mostly populated with non-NFL players, so you'd have to come up with a deal for them. Otherwise, even if you limited it to schools' all-time teams, you're still looking at Adrian Peterson, Brian Bosworth and Joe Palooka.