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RE: Wiseman debut
(11-06-2019 11:42 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 11:07 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 10:58 PM)Memphis10Tigers Wrote:  I'm now convinced we have a real shot at winning a national championship.

A lot of things still have to come together, but it is more than a realistic possibility.

Wiseman is that good.

Gotta shoot 100x better...

It is easy to stop a big when the smalls cant shoot...

And Wiseman is going to have to show he can score 1-on-1 against good competition

With his length, quickness and footwork he will be able to score one on one consistently. I also expect our three point shooting to improve as the season goes on. We have a couple of players that should be high percentage three point shooters on open attempts and a few that can be scary good when they get hot. The wild cards will be guys like Baugh and DJ and how well they shoot from 3.

"I was really just trying to take it possession by possession and really just trying to trust teammates," Wiseman said after his massive performance. "Running the floor is one of my strengths, and when I did that, the floor opened up tremendously."

We have a legit 7-footer that can run the floor. This is like having a nuclear weapon in your arsenal. He is complemented by multiple players that are each a threat in their own right. We have all of the ingredients to literally dominate.
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Peter Edmiston just said that Wiseman is higher IQ version of Javale McGee. 05-stirthepot
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(11-07-2019 07:47 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 01:14 AM)Irse Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:57 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:52 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  UNC Freshman Cole Anthony just had 34pts 11rbs and 5 assists in his debut. The race is on!!

Anthony didn't play but 37 minutes

Also didn't play against South Carolina State. Played against a legit opponent.

Ball hog

It was like he thought he was the only one on his team during the McD All Star Game.
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(11-07-2019 10:02 AM)mairving Wrote:  Peter Edmiston just said that Wiseman is higher IQ version of Javale McGee. 05-stirthepot

And Peter is a lower IQ version of - pick your ego driven hack with a radio show
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I haven't looked at Sportscenter in who knows how long, but I went back and looked at the one that night with Scott Van Pelt. Memphis got the third spot after KU/Duke and UK/MSU. They showed this after the game highlights. When looking at scoring debuts of ESPN #1 ranked high school players Wiseman was #2.

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(11-07-2019 10:27 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 07:47 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 01:14 AM)Irse Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:57 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:52 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  UNC Freshman Cole Anthony just had 34pts 11rbs and 5 assists in his debut. The race is on!!

Anthony didn't play but 37 minutes

Also didn't play against South Carolina State. Played against a legit opponent.

Ball hog

It was like he thought he was the only one on his team during the McD All Star Game.

Exactly.

He is a good player, not great imo and no way is he better than JW.

Not even close
11-07-2019 01:39 PM
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RE: Wiseman debut
(11-06-2019 11:07 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 10:58 PM)Memphis10Tigers Wrote:  I'm now convinced we have a real shot at winning a national championship.

A lot of things still have to come together, but it is more than a realistic possibility.

Wiseman is that good.

Gotta shoot 100x better...

It is easy to stop a big when the smalls cant shoot...

And Wiseman is going to have to show he can score 1-on-1 against good competition

We can shoot better - make no mistake. 4 of the misses were in the last ~6 minutes, when it was mop-up time and we had gotten away from the offense. Lester also had 3 made 3's wiped off the board in the 2nd half, for a bunny-hop travel.

The poor shooting was primarily Lester (the negated 3's hurt him; he'll have to work on the bunny-hop), and Tyler. We know Tyler - good an bad. He had an off night. But when he runs the O sets with starters on the court with him, there is no reason to expect his % won't improve. Those two guys were 1-10, and the rest of the team was 5-10.
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(11-06-2019 11:55 PM)cmt Wrote:  
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(11-06-2019 09:57 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:52 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  UNC Freshman Cole Anthony just had 34pts 11rbs and 5 assists in his debut. The race is on!!

Anthony didn't play but 37 minutes

I know but espn and the social media wonks don’t care about that even though Wisemans efficiency is better in 22 minutes. James could had went for close to 50 if Penny had kept him in but there was no need for that in a blowout

Yep, Wiseman is old news, errbody's now claiming Cole Anthony POY, no one else even close

Anthony
0.32 pts/min, 0.30 rebs/minute
37 minutes 34 pts, 12/24 37%, 6/11 3 pt att 55%, 4/5 ft 80%, 0 or, 11 dr, 11 ttl rebs, 5 a, 1 stl, 0 blk, 4 turns

Wiseman
0.50 pts/min, 0.50 rebs/minute
22 minutes 28 pts, 11/14 79%, 0/0 3 pt att n/a%, 6/7 ft 86%, 6 or, 5 dr, 11 ttl rebs, 1 a, 0 stl, 3 blk, 0 turns

I know, different game, different team, different opponent, blah, blah, blah, they said it, I'm just showing some stats.

05-nono Actually, it's 1.2 pts per minute. IJS 07-coffee3
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(11-06-2019 09:52 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  UNC Freshman Cole Anthony just had 34pts 11rbs and 5 assists in his debut. The race is on!!

How many minutes did he play? Wiseman 22
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(11-07-2019 01:28 PM)Alanda Wrote:  I haven't looked at Sportscenter in who knows how long, but I went back and looked at the one that night with Scott Van Pelt. Memphis got the third spot after KU/Duke and UK/MSU. They showed this after the game highlights. When looking at scoring debuts of ESPN #1 ranked high school players Wiseman was #2.

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Thanks.
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(11-07-2019 04:51 PM)geedog50 Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 11:55 PM)cmt Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 10:13 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:57 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:52 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  UNC Freshman Cole Anthony just had 34pts 11rbs and 5 assists in his debut. The race is on!!

Anthony didn't play but 37 minutes

I know but espn and the social media wonks don’t care about that even though Wisemans efficiency is better in 22 minutes. James could had went for close to 50 if Penny had kept him in but there was no need for that in a blowout

Yep, Wiseman is old news, errbody's now claiming Cole Anthony POY, no one else even close

Anthony
0.32 pts/min, 0.30 rebs/minute
37 minutes 34 pts, 12/24 37%, 6/11 3 pt att 55%, 4/5 ft 80%, 0 or, 11 dr, 11 ttl rebs, 5 a, 1 stl, 0 blk, 4 turns

Wiseman
0.50 pts/min, 0.50 rebs/minute
22 minutes 28 pts, 11/14 79%, 0/0 3 pt att n/a%, 6/7 ft 86%, 6 or, 5 dr, 11 ttl rebs, 1 a, 0 stl, 3 blk, 0 turns

I know, different game, different team, different opponent, blah, blah, blah, they said it, I'm just showing some stats.

05-nono Actually, it's 1.2 pts per minute. IJS 07-coffee3

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LOL, they love some Cole Anthony. Roy Williams is so brave playing a #263 Kenpom team that was 10-21 on the road this year.


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(11-08-2019 08:59 AM)mairving Wrote:  LOL, they love some Cole Anthony. Roy Williams is so brave playing a #263 Kenpom team that was 10-21 on the road this year.



He has to sarcastic, right? 03-lmfao
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(11-08-2019 09:06 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:59 AM)mairving Wrote:  LOL, they love some Cole Anthony. Roy Williams is so brave playing a #263 Kenpom team that was 10-21 on the road this year.



He has to sarcastic, right? 03-lmfao

Nope
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(11-08-2019 09:33 AM)rolexjames Wrote:  

NBA folks keep up with +/- and efficiency numbers. Average fans and some lazy media people don’t
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(11-08-2019 09:38 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  NBA folks keep up with +/- and efficiency numbers. Average fans and some lazy media people don’t

Spot on. Combine the efficiency numbers with freakish athleticism, powerful frame and positive attitude (coachability) and JW will be the #1 pick in the draft.
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Love this one...


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(11-06-2019 11:07 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 10:58 PM)Memphis10Tigers Wrote:  I'm now convinced we have a real shot at winning a national championship.

A lot of things still have to come together, but it is more than a realistic possibility.

Wiseman is that good.

Gotta shoot 100x better...

It is easy to stop a big when the smalls cant shoot...

And Wiseman is going to have to show he can score 1-on-1 against good competition

I had those concerns until I saw this game. Notice the Wiseman highlights. In this highlight package it shows Wiseman scoring on a faceup move, a turnaround jumper that was impressive (at the 1:09 mark) in the half court setting. This doesn't include the running hook shot he scored on in the 1st half. James has gotten better since then. I'm more worried about him being in foul trouble.


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(11-06-2019 09:51 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  There has been a lot of buzz during last night and tonight's games.

James is going to get a lot of media attention this season which is a huge plus for Penny and our program.

He has a chance of becoming this seasons "Zion"

Yep, lots of media attention, but I wouldn't say it's a huge plus for anyone.
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