(11-08-2019 07:43 PM)EagleX Wrote:  the re-canvassing (run by an AG that lost BIG TIME against the turtle) is a great idea.

perhaps (PERHAPS), Blevins was such a flawed candidate that even DJT couldn't pull him across the finish line.

I think I read he made the teacher union mad and is a general tool.

(11-08-2019 08:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-08-2019 07:43 PM)EagleX Wrote:  the re-canvassing (run by an AG that lost BIG TIME against the turtle) is a great idea.
perhaps (PERHAPS), Blevins was such a flawed candidate that even DJT couldn't pull him across the finish line.

I think I read he made the teacher union mad and is a general tool.

He finished way behind any other republican running in a statewide race.

(11-06-2019 07:52 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  This is concerning to me because it seems it fell to one issue. The teachers union. The current pension system is unsustainable and Bevin actually tried to address it and appears to have lost the race because of it. That is ominous for the country as a whole because there are an abundance of programs out there at the state and federal level that are going to go bankrupt if they aren't addressed. We'll see what happens now in Kentucky.

I think you're half correct. Anyone who tries to take on pension reform ANYWHERE is going to make enemies. But Bevin made enemies he didn't have to make. A lot of teachers who might have voted against the Union stand, didn't, because Bevin was condescending to them, and publicly called them "selfish and short sighted".

That was a dumb move. And even though it happened a while back, there were a lot of people that might not have voted against him, that didn't forget feeling insulted by him.

Was he right about what he said?

Yes.

Did he lose the election because of HOW he said it?

Yes. (IMO, because no one can prove it.)

One other point about Kentucky and Governors. It is not the norm to have Republican governors in Kentucky. Traditionally, the state votes for Democratic Governors, and Republican Presidents. And any senators have to PRETEND to be conservative, to get elected.

Sadly, I think the only thing that will keep McConnell in the senate next year, is that he's going to appear to be MORE conservative than any Democratic Candidate that will run against him. Regardless of everyone in Kentucky knowing the RINO that McConnell is, the Dem Candidate (whoever it ends up being) isn't going to be conservative enough to win.

And MORE sadly, even if the Democratic candidate were to end up being MORE conservative than McConnell, it would be a waste to vote for him/her, because they'd have to vote with their party on issues so that their conservatism would be compromised; of no effect.

(11-06-2019 02:20 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  KY-GOP Senate President thinking about stealing the election. Typical Republican .

Quote:Stivers said he thought Bevin’s speech declining to concede to Beshear was “appropriate.” He said believes most of the votes that went to Libertarian John Hicks, who received about 2% of the total vote, would have gone to Bevin and made him the clear winner.

Senate president: Kentucky governor's race could be decided by state legislature

So, you're saying he's taking a page or two out of your sides playbook, that has to suck for you loons.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/it...dont-like/

"...Then again, Georgia’s gubernatorial election is a trivial sideshow compared to 2016 presidential race they’ve never accepted as legitimate. Less than two months ago, Hillary Clinton was still telling CBS News that “Trump knows he’s an illegitimate president.” Earlier this year, she claimed that, “You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you.” Here you have the most widely known Democrat in the nation maintaining that the election was stolen from her. Putting your party above your country in this way is, as someone once noted, just “horrifying.”

At one point, 67 percent of Democrats believed that it was “definitely true” that the Russians had tampered with voting tallies to make Trump president though no such evidence exists. Though I can’t find any recent polls on the question, that number, after years of scaremongering about Russians, is almost surely higher today. None of this it to mention the Left’s continuous attacks on Electoral College, which not only helps corrode trust in the elections but the Constitution, as well. All because they didn’t get the political outcomes they prefer.


Historically speaking, Republicans probably need to win 40+ states for Democrats to accept election results without controversy. John Kerry, and surely he’s not alone, still believes that George W. Bush stole Ohio in 2004 with his sentient Diebold machines. Prominent Democrats believe Bush stole the Florida in 2000 (a contest we know W. indisputably won.) Al Gore, you may remember, refused to concede.

I know, I know, it’s different when Democrats do it."

(11-07-2019 10:51 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  The Democratic party in Kentucky is nearly dead...or at least in it's last throws of life as a statewide power. The only way they can win any statewide office in Kentucky is with assistance (i.e....a badly tainted Republican candidate). The other statewide offices as well as control of both houses of the legislature have only recently switched to Republican (The House in 2000 and the Senate in 2017).

Here's a history of party control:

Attorney General - Republican Daniel Cameron was just elected Tuesday as the first Republican AG in 70 years (He's African American btw, which says a lot since Kentucky has a very small African-American population compared to most southern states and significantly below the national average...just 7.8% of the population ). Wait....I thought Republicans, southern whites, conservatives were racist?? They must be...that's why our outgoing Republican Lt Governor is also African American and a female. WHAT??? This doesn't fit the narrative.

Kentucky House:
Democrats controlled it from 1866 until 2000. Over 130 years.

Kentucky Senate:
Democrats controlled it from 1922 until 2017. About 95 years.

Kentucky Governor:
We've had 14 Democrat governors since the WWII and just 3 Republican governors....but two of the last three were Republican.

Kentucky Secretary of State:
Democrats controlled it for 83 of the last 95 years.

This new Democrat Governor will enter the governor's mansion as the first Democrat governor with absolutely no powerful people from his own party to cover his tracks (i.e. Sec of State, AG, house or senate). In essence, he's a lame duck governor before he takes the oath of office.

Had Matt Bevin been perceived as less of an ass, Republicans would have for the first time ever had total control over all statewide offices, the legislature, and the executive branches and could have truly started to erase countless destructive policies and practices implemented over the last 100 years that have kept Kentucky impoverished and corrupt. Bevin and the legislature, since 2017, had already started making progress. It will be interesting to see how many veto overrides the legislature is able to make in the next four years to continue the progress made in the last two years since Republicans took the senate.

to drive to the crux....what that implies is Zero fuxxored the muckrakers as the sanity of many other's back pocket finally took the reigns under their skull cap...

ATTABOY

how that mothertrucker got reelected defines my fear of line 1b) on a daily basis....

#layTheFrank

Bevin conceded today.

(11-14-2019 04:31 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Bevin conceded today.

So about a week quicker than Gillums and Abrams is what, 1 year and counting?

Don't you feel ridiculous with your comments equating Bevin to those two?