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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
(11-06-2019 10:13 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 08:24 PM)Ranger1386c Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 11:55 AM)PaUABlazer Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 11:34 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 11:08 AM)PaUABlazer Wrote:  Yeah I do have a question. Take a look back at the schedules Watson, Calloway even McGee had. If UAB had that schedule now how many games would they win? UCF, Marshall, ECU, Memphis Southern Miss, & UAB in the East. The West was Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Rice, UTEP. was the west. And in two sometimes even 3 P5 money games how many do they win? And If you go back to Watson’s time you could add in Louisville, TCU, USF & Cincinnati. Take any team Bill Clark has ever had and input them into an old schedule how many games does he win? Just pick a random year & give him that schedule now with this team or last years team, how many games does he win?

I hear what you're sayin' about the schedule but it also has to be recognized that half of those Watson era players couldn't get in UAB now. UAB is a different school, almost literally. Give Bill Clark the roster Watson had to go against that schedule. Watson also didn't have a decade of losing seasons and a death sentence to recruit against. Early 2000's our football culture may not have been wholesome but it wasn't losing.

I think we need some changes on O but the head coach is a winner. We're lucky to have him.
He is a great defensive coach I’m not denying that. But then I’ll ask you this question. If Bill Clark doesn’t make a change at OC and UAB doesn’t make the next step in the next 3years do you keep him around? Because ultimately it is us the fans, boosters etc. that set the agenda for UAB. He is the CEO we are the stockholders. We hold him accountable and he must meet our expectations. When I say I’m upset with his comments, I’m just holding him accountable for something dumb he said. If I was the AD or a major booster giving UAB millions of dollars I would have contacted him Immediately and said let’s not ever say that publicly again. Let’s put out an image that we try our best to win every game. And that they are all important. I don’t think that’s to much to ask from a head coach making 7 figures a year. If Bill Clark doesn’t think he owes UAB and it’s fans that then he doesn’t need to be here.

As I was reading through the trend of this thread I was anticipating a question just like this (“Clark doesnt need to be here”) from a certain poster.

I read it as either a troll comment or an absolutely moronic comment about college football. I lean toward the former.

One thing that seems to be consistently lost in the spectrum of opinions so far is that UAB is in their THIRD SEASON OF FIELDING A TEAM. Only two players have more than 2 full years game experience. Only 2. What other team has that challenge? None. Where Clark is today with this team, in season 3 of the return, few teams have ever been. And certainly not successfully. Our experience and depth are still limited, particularly on the Oline. That has been our weakest link in recruiting, yes. But those big guys also take the longest to develop. After four seasons of actual games then we have had one full cycle of program development, but not until then.

If Clark thinks that in the progression of returning to full strength (still 2 years away), and with our present talent, depth and injuries, that the program is better served using the bye week to prepare for tough but winnable conference games, then I trust his judgment. You can disagree with that judgment, cerainly, but questioning whether Clark is motivated or able to eventually win at a higher level, or whether he should be here, is beyond freakin ridiculous. Maybe one of the least informed, or else most malicious, comments Ive read here in a long, long time considering the context.

And while Im going, the question of whether he could handle the old CUSA with Loserville, Cincy, UCF, etc like Watson did. Hell yes. Give Clark those teams in that era, against the conference teams of that era, and UAB wins 9 to 11 games a year , not 4 to 7.

As things stand Today with the former CUSA teams , different story. Completely different budgets and exposure. Look at the trends and the growing gap between AAC and CUSA. Money and TV makes a huge difference in recruiting. But give Clark 2 more years and a new stadium and I anticipate a perennial top 25 type UAB program... if Auburn doesnt hire him next. Had he won the TN game, with this rebuilding UAB team, perhaps the chance of something like that happening sooner increases. I live in Knoxville and have taken sh$t all week for the loss, but Im absolutely good with the program direction and frankly wouldnt trade Clark for Saban or Riley.



We returned a lot more than that a lot of three year guys are playing. We didn’t rebuild a defense and the offensive has a huge amount of turnover for 2021. I myself would like to see a second money game. And the Oline is taking a bad rap.

Im open to learning something. So other than Dufour and Vogel, name the players on this team that have three seasons of D1 playing time already? We are at two thirds of year 3 in the return.
11-06-2019 11:37 PM
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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
(11-06-2019 02:53 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
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(11-06-2019 01:51 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  People act like the 30 SRs all started last year a lot returned this year that was ahead of most of those 30 SRs

You act like losing all most all of our starters on the OL and DL was no big deal

It wasn’t. It’s only 5-6 guys.

We're still the least experienced team in college football according to some metrics, and bottom 5 in others. ie we returned the least amount of production from the previous year
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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
(11-07-2019 12:20 AM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 02:53 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 02:33 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 01:51 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  People act like the 30 SRs all started last year a lot returned this year that was ahead of most of those 30 SRs

You act like losing all most all of our starters on the OL and DL was no big deal

It wasn’t. It’s only 5-6 guys.

We're still the least experienced team in college football according to some metrics, and bottom 5 in others. ie we returned the least amount of production from the previous year

No fair. Dont confuse the trolls with facts and reality.
11-07-2019 02:32 AM
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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
(11-07-2019 02:32 AM)Ranger1386c Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 12:20 AM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 02:53 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 02:33 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 01:51 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  People act like the 30 SRs all started last year a lot returned this year that was ahead of most of those 30 SRs

You act like losing all most all of our starters on the OL and DL was no big deal

It wasn’t. It’s only 5-6 guys.

We're still the least experienced team in college football according to some metrics, and bottom 5 in others. ie we returned the least amount of production from the previous year

No fair. Dont confuse the trolls with facts and reality.

Yeah, we are ranked #128 for returning offense production and #125 for returning defense production...puts us at 130/130 overall.
11-07-2019 04:29 AM
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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
(11-07-2019 12:20 AM)ShrackUAB Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 02:53 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 02:33 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 01:51 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  People act like the 30 SRs all started last year a lot returned this year that was ahead of most of those 30 SRs

You act like losing all most all of our starters on the OL and DL was no big deal

It wasn’t. It’s only 5-6 guys.

We're still the least experienced team in college football according to some metrics, and bottom 5 in others. ie we returned the least amount of production from the previous year

Graduated 4 of 5 starters on Oline, plus lost Galten first game this year.
Graduated starting TE and top 2 WRs.
Graduated 3 of 4 starters on DL plus several key pass rushing backups.
Graduated 2 of 3 starting linebackers.
Graduated top 2 safeties.
All conferece CB out for season in camp.
Jarrion Street lost in first game.

UAB came into the season with very little playing experience around the line of scrimmage, and in the secondary.
11-07-2019 07:52 AM
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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
All you guys with your silly facts!
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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
Stats/analytics guys lol

QB erdely who’s replaced

RB Noble who was replaced

TE Scott a starter since 17, but statistically wasn’t the top guy and a athlete in Lee. Pittman has been the top guy think Lee was last season

WR ubosi,Wilson, and Lisa, carter and walker
Watkins was a starter in front of ubosi

OL 4/5 starters
DL 1 true starter, one co starter Thagard as we don’t have 12 guys on the field two guys as depth Williams and Easley
OLB two one year starters, backed up by a former starter, and 2nd string guy and a walkon
MLB one senior one year starter
CB two seniors no ints
Saf two seniors one that suited up and one of the best and a costarter

Injuries happen

Secondary: Dawkins started in 17. Turner co starter, Boler, Cash all played last season. As safety is only one of three spots to have recruits from 16-19 which is balanced recruiting
And Moll could’ve stayed back there
Corner: Daniels and Thomas played a lot last year, all CBs came outside of H


OL: Dufour’s injury was a blessing in disguise. As two guys got starting experience as they replaced 2/4 starters and Dufour returned. You replace 1 tackle with his backup and the other in the spring. Now Galten is back healthy, and now you have 8-9 guys with starting experience guys needed to gel. Another spot with recruits from 16-19 only other spot is OLB

DL we lost Rush replaced him with his type. Thagard and Marino costarted as we didn’t always start out in a base 3-4 defense. What you got from Williams and Easley was replaceable. Actually added a SEC recruit
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RE: 5 takeaways from UAB’s loss at Tennessee
A lot of those 30 that we replaced have been replaced by more athletic players. The recruiting classes have gotten progressively better. We did have to replace a lot of game time experience. Signing a bunch of JUCO's makes the transition a lot easier, especially in the trenches. Even top P-5 teams will go to the JUCO ranks to plug gaps. All of our top WR's (Parham, Watkins, Mitchell, Grossman) were JUCO's, as well as most of our top OL & DL. (Marino, Fair, Ragland, etc.) Teams sign JUCO players because a lot of them are able to step in immediately, and contribute.
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