(11-11-2019 01:14 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:05 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:02 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:56 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:53 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Belk Bowl reaching to get a 6-6 CUSA team? Damn new low for them.

https://belkbowl.com/game-day/media/media-projections/

and

https://twitter.com/belkbowl/status/1192802456809431043


If UNCC goes to the Belk Bowl, good on them. I think the Belk Bowl would sell more tickets if it were App vs. VT rather than VT vs. UNCC. But, who knows.

The Belk Bowl has SEC and ACC tie ins, right? Isn't this contractual?

Some think the SEC won't be able to fill all their bowl slots and it would leave an open slot for UNCC to slide into.

Why would they want UNCC? Realistically, how many fans is UNCC going to bring? The match-up of the game itself matters as well. If you have Wake Forest and UNCC playing in the Belk Bowl and no one is there to see it, did it really happen? They would be lucky to fill the bottom bowl with that match-up.

Put App and Louisville in it.

The story writes itself. I'd make the trip out to Charlotte if App gets chosen for Belk.

(11-11-2019 01:29 PM)VNova Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 01:14 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:05 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:02 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:56 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  https://belkbowl.com/game-day/media/media-projections/

and

https://twitter.com/belkbowl/status/1192802456809431043


If UNCC goes to the Belk Bowl, good on them. I think the Belk Bowl would sell more tickets if it were App vs. VT rather than VT vs. UNCC. But, who knows.

The Belk Bowl has SEC and ACC tie ins, right? Isn't this contractual?

Some think the SEC won't be able to fill all their bowl slots and it would leave an open slot for UNCC to slide into.

Why would they want UNCC? Realistically, how many fans is UNCC going to bring? The match-up of the game itself matters as well. If you have Wake Forest and UNCC playing in the Belk Bowl and no one is there to see it, did it really happen? They would be lucky to fill the bottom bowl with that match-up.

Put App and Louisville in it.

The story writes itself. I'd make the trip out to Charlotte if App gets chosen for Belk.

Relatively inexpensive direct flight to Charlotte i'd imagine. App would sell a lot of tickets and getting into the Belk Bowl would, in a lot of ways, match the expectation of what moving to FBS was about. It's not a big time bowl like the NY6 would be but a match-up against a P5 team in a bowl game would be further validation (as if any was needed).

As to the story writing itself, that's obvious. However, should App be in position to make requests, the Sun Belt, App State and ESPN should work with these NOLA and Belk to make it happen.

Serious question? If APP wins out and wins the conference championship (or anyone else for that matter), could they actually refuse to go to NOLA if they have been invited to another more lucrative bowl?

(11-11-2019 03:26 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote:  Serious question? If APP wins out and wins the conference championship (or anyone else for that matter), could they actually refuse to go to NOLA if they have been invited to another more lucrative bowl?

Not without the NOLA Bowl letting that team out of the contract.

(11-11-2019 03:30 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:26 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote:  Serious question? If APP wins out and wins the conference championship (or anyone else for that matter), could they actually refuse to go to NOLA if they have been invited to another more lucrative bowl?

Not without the NOLA Bowl letting that team out of the contract.

Thanks, I'm sure there would be a financial penalty, any ideas what that would be?

(11-11-2019 03:30 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:26 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote:  Serious question? If APP wins out and wins the conference championship (or anyone else for that matter), could they actually refuse to go to NOLA if they have been invited to another more lucrative bowl?

Not without the NOLA Bowl letting that team out of the contract.

Lots of speculation i know, but if its us and ULL in the championship, i have a hard time believing that the NOLA bowl would not let us out of it when they love ULL and the fans live right there. not too crazy of an idea.

Before we bother with this moving teams to other bowls, talk, Troy, Coastal, or ULM need to get on the ball and get to 6 wins. Last week, I was sure it would happen. This week, not so much.

We can’t be pissed if the SBC champ is obligated to go to NOLA. Our fanbase was vocal when a 6 win ULL team was contemplated to get that game over the SBC champ.

Let the conference make the call of what’s best for all teams as they have negotiated that concession previously.

(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We can’t be pissed if the SBC champ is obligated to go to NOLA. Our fanbase was vocal when a 6 win ULL team was contemplated to get that game over the SBC champ.

Let the conference make the call of what’s best for all teams as they have negotiated that concession previously.

Agreed. However, what I'd like to see is the GNOSF (The New Orleans Bowl Committee) secure a solid tie-in for the SBC Champ. I'm fine with NOLA being the Champ game if the champ doesn't go NY6. But it'd be nice for the SBC Champ to get a P5 or another G5 Champ.


This year if App does go to the NOLA Bowl, there will be zero complaints from me. All the predictions put the opponent as either LaTech, USM, or Marshall.

(11-11-2019 03:35 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:30 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:26 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote:  Serious question? If APP wins out and wins the conference championship (or anyone else for that matter), could they actually refuse to go to NOLA if they have been invited to another more lucrative bowl?

Not without the NOLA Bowl letting that team out of the contract.

Lots of speculation i know, but if its us and ULL in the championship, i have a hard time believing that the NOLA bowl would not let us out of it when they love ULL and the fans live right there. not too crazy of an idea.

Okay, then Montgomery steps in and takes App.

(11-11-2019 03:33 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:30 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:26 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote:  Serious question? If APP wins out and wins the conference championship (or anyone else for that matter), could they actually refuse to go to NOLA if they have been invited to another more lucrative bowl?

Not without the NOLA Bowl letting that team out of the contract.

Thanks, I'm sure there would be a financial penalty, any ideas what that would be?

There's no penalty. Whether they let you out has to do with who would be available to replace you, and could that team effectively replace you in terms of ticket sales and marketing.

(11-11-2019 04:47 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:35 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:30 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:26 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote:  Serious question? If APP wins out and wins the conference championship (or anyone else for that matter), could they actually refuse to go to NOLA if they have been invited to another more lucrative bowl?

Not without the NOLA Bowl letting that team out of the contract.

Lots of speculation i know, but if its us and ULL in the championship, i have a hard time believing that the NOLA bowl would not let us out of it when they love ULL and the fans live right there. not too crazy of an idea.

Okay, then Montgomery steps in and takes App.

Montgomery is ESPN owned, so the 4 letter network could effectively horse trade App provided NOLA and Mobile agree to not pick the Mountaineers with their picks.

The key is making sure Mobile and Nola are agreeable to letting App go. Nola likely doesn't care, but history is that Mobile does care a lot about who they get. They've let teams out in the past though, so its not entirely unusual.

Mobile and Nola are two independently managed bowls. Keeping them happy is good for the conference. Cure used to be and they sold earlier this year. Arizona too, but that one is going to the MAC in the future

(11-11-2019 10:41 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Mobile and Nola are two independently managed bowls. Keeping them happy is good for the conference. Cure used to be and they sold earlier this year. Arizona too, but that one is going to the MAC in the future

Yes, all G5 conferences need to keep those bowls with whom we have tie-ins happy. We want all of our bowl eligible teams to have a bowl spots available.

(11-11-2019 01:12 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:00 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 10:57 AM)ChiefGSU275 Wrote:  I think App in the Belk Bowl would be genius. Isnt that in Charlotte? You know there would be a good crowd.

The Belk Bowl has been tweeting out to UNCC. So they might want to get UNCC in the game for the reason y'all said: tickets.

How many tickets would UNCC sell? 16,000? MAYBE?

App getting matched up against Virginia Tech would provide incentive to turn a stadium into KBS East. I'd venture a guess to say that App could bring 30,000 fans to a bowl game against Virginia or Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech would bring the other 40,000 to fill out the stadium.

Nevermind that App has reach beyond tickets sold in that people watch the games. ESPN wouldn't be moving App games to their regular channels without there being an obvious uptick in viewership and interest in App State the FBS version.

Again, if App is in position to make the Belk Bowl, App State, the Sun Belt, and ESPN all have incentive to match App up there. When was the last time a G5 team beat 3 P5 teams in one season?

App pushing for that opportunity seems like a necessity.

Something else to keep in mind, not only is App a better Belk Bowl selection than UNCC due to ticket sales, they are also the better selection for the city of Charlotte. You guys would have fans staying in hotels, eating out at restaurants, etc in the days leading up to the bowl. UNCC fans would treat the lead up to that game just like any other home game. It's sort of like how UL is a better NOLA bowl selection than Tulame.

Funny how people want the bowl relationship to be a one way street.

NOLA freaking took our champion when the champion via tiebreaker was 5-6 and it's all hold 'em to the contract but have big year and they are beneath us.

Ok. Just remember karma can kick hard and usually goes for the nuts.

(11-12-2019 11:04 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Funny how people want the bowl relationship to be a one way street.

NOLA freaking took our champion when the champion via tiebreaker was 5-6 and it's all hold 'em to the contract but have big year and they are beneath us.

Ok. Just remember karma can kick hard and usually goes for the nuts.

Exactly. You don't piss off NOLA or Mobile because they've been ride-or-die for the conference.

(11-12-2019 10:28 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 01:12 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:00 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 10:57 AM)ChiefGSU275 Wrote:  I think App in the Belk Bowl would be genius. Isnt that in Charlotte? You know there would be a good crowd.

The Belk Bowl has been tweeting out to UNCC. So they might want to get UNCC in the game for the reason y'all said: tickets.

How many tickets would UNCC sell? 16,000? MAYBE?

App getting matched up against Virginia Tech would provide incentive to turn a stadium into KBS East. I'd venture a guess to say that App could bring 30,000 fans to a bowl game against Virginia or Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech would bring the other 40,000 to fill out the stadium.

Nevermind that App has reach beyond tickets sold in that people watch the games. ESPN wouldn't be moving App games to their regular channels without there being an obvious uptick in viewership and interest in App State the FBS version.

Again, if App is in position to make the Belk Bowl, App State, the Sun Belt, and ESPN all have incentive to match App up there. When was the last time a G5 team beat 3 P5 teams in one season?

App pushing for that opportunity seems like a necessity.

Something else to keep in mind, not only is App a better Belk Bowl selection than UNCC due to ticket sales, they are also the better selection for the city of Charlotte. You guys would have fans staying in hotels, eating out at restaurants, etc in the days leading up to the bowl. UNCC fans would treat the lead up to that game just like any other home game. It's sort of like how UL is a better NOLA bowl selection than Tulame.

I'd say half of our grads live in Charlotte and in total 90 percent of our grads live within a 3 hour drive. Ticket sales, yes, hotels, probably not as much as you think.

(11-12-2019 11:18 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-12-2019 10:28 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 01:12 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:00 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 10:57 AM)ChiefGSU275 Wrote:  I think App in the Belk Bowl would be genius. Isnt that in Charlotte? You know there would be a good crowd.

The Belk Bowl has been tweeting out to UNCC. So they might want to get UNCC in the game for the reason y'all said: tickets.

How many tickets would UNCC sell? 16,000? MAYBE?

App getting matched up against Virginia Tech would provide incentive to turn a stadium into KBS East. I'd venture a guess to say that App could bring 30,000 fans to a bowl game against Virginia or Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech would bring the other 40,000 to fill out the stadium.

Nevermind that App has reach beyond tickets sold in that people watch the games. ESPN wouldn't be moving App games to their regular channels without there being an obvious uptick in viewership and interest in App State the FBS version.

Again, if App is in position to make the Belk Bowl, App State, the Sun Belt, and ESPN all have incentive to match App up there. When was the last time a G5 team beat 3 P5 teams in one season?

App pushing for that opportunity seems like a necessity.

Something else to keep in mind, not only is App a better Belk Bowl selection than UNCC due to ticket sales, they are also the better selection for the city of Charlotte. You guys would have fans staying in hotels, eating out at restaurants, etc in the days leading up to the bowl. UNCC fans would treat the lead up to that game just like any other home game. It's sort of like how UL is a better NOLA bowl selection than Tulame.

I'd say half of our grads live in Charlotte and in total 90 percent of our grads live within a 3 hour drive. Ticket sales, yes, hotels, probably not as much as you think.

I always laugh when on broadcasts (happened during the South Carolina game) they say "look at the contingent that made the trip from Boone," when in all actuality, a huge portion of us just hopped on I-77 and were there in an hour and a half.

(11-11-2019 04:42 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 04:33 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  We can’t be pissed if the SBC champ is obligated to go to NOLA. Our fanbase was vocal when a 6 win ULL team was contemplated to get that game over the SBC champ.

Let the conference make the call of what’s best for all teams as they have negotiated that concession previously.

Agreed. However, what I'd like to see is the GNOSF (The New Orleans Bowl Committee) secure a solid tie-in for the SBC Champ. I'm fine with NOLA being the Champ game if the champ doesn't go NY6. But it'd be nice for the SBC Champ to get a P5 or another G5 Champ.


This year if App does go to the NOLA Bowl, there will be zero complaints from me. All the predictions put the opponent as either LaTech, USM, or Marshall.

Did the Sun Belt enter into this agreement under the belief that NOLA would get a better tie-in than C-USA moving forward? It makes no sense to force your conference champion to play a team from a conference rated lower than yours while their champ isn't obligated to play there.