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RE: G5 New Year 6 Bowl Race
A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.
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(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams
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(11-04-2019 12:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 11:23 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Boise best chance for the NY6 game is to have a 2-loss AAC champ which has a really good chance of happening.

I think this is wishful thinking. The AAC is strong, it is likely to have four ranked teams in the CFP tomorrow.

So what that starts is a merry-go-round where one AAC team ahead of Boise loses, but are leap-frogged by the AAC team that beat the first AAC team.

It's like when #8 Georgia plays #6 Florida, and SEC-haters think "well now an SEC team is going to be knocked out of NY6 contention". And Georgia wins, and what happens is Georgia moves up to #6, Florida drops to #9, and basically the SEC is exactly where it was before the game.

The only way the AAC isn't getting the bid is if these top teams like Memphis and Navy and Cincy and SMU lose to *bad* AAC teams, not each other. Boise needs for upsets to happen - USF to beat Memphis, for example, or ECU to beat Cincy, which almost happened but didn't.

And that is unlikely.

All of this leapfrogging disregards the fact that if Boise’s ranking isn’t static. As long as they keep winning, their rank will rise as well. Every week that passes with Boise continuing to win will see a leapfrogging scenario harder and harder. You also have to consider P5 teams that go on a run these last few weeks. Even a small splash in the pool from some of those school will see them inexplicably hop into the rankings. Not to mention the teams that lose that are currently ranked in the 10-20 range. Those losses could actually widen the gap between Boise and the next AAC team, depending on where they drop in the rankings.
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(11-07-2019 10:55 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 12:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 11:23 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Boise best chance for the NY6 game is to have a 2-loss AAC champ which has a really good chance of happening.

I think this is wishful thinking. The AAC is strong, it is likely to have four ranked teams in the CFP tomorrow.

So what that starts is a merry-go-round where one AAC team ahead of Boise loses, but are leap-frogged by the AAC team that beat the first AAC team.

It's like when #8 Georgia plays #6 Florida, and SEC-haters think "well now an SEC team is going to be knocked out of NY6 contention". And Georgia wins, and what happens is Georgia moves up to #6, Florida drops to #9, and basically the SEC is exactly where it was before the game.

The only way the AAC isn't getting the bid is if these top teams like Memphis and Navy and Cincy and SMU lose to *bad* AAC teams, not each other. Boise needs for upsets to happen - USF to beat Memphis, for example, or ECU to beat Cincy, which almost happened but didn't.

And that is unlikely.

All of this leapfrogging disregards the fact that if Boise’s ranking isn’t static. As long as they keep winning, their rank will rise as well. Every week that passes with Boise continuing to win will see a leapfrogging scenario harder and harder. You also have to consider P5 teams that go on a run these last few weeks. Even a small splash in the pool from some of those school will see them inexplicably hop into the rankings. Not to mention the teams that lose that are currently ranked in the 10-20 range. Those losses could actually widen the gap between Boise and the next AAC team, depending on where they drop in the rankings.
Enlighten me as to how much Boise moves up each week beating the #51, #122, #63, and #107 teams.
Boise's not moving up ahead of Memphis or Cincinnati, and won't create space between themselves and Navy/SMU right behind them. Thanksgiving weekend, the Memphis-Cincinnati loser may not even fall behind Boise beating Colorado State.

Boise's resume isn't going to get any stronger. A single loss between AAC teams already ahead of or even with Boise, meh. The point remains that Boise now needs upsets, possibly multiple upsets from the bottom third of the AAC to even create a discussion of comparable resume with any potential 2-loss AAC champ.
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(11-07-2019 10:55 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 12:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 11:23 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Boise best chance for the NY6 game is to have a 2-loss AAC champ which has a really good chance of happening.

I think this is wishful thinking. The AAC is strong, it is likely to have four ranked teams in the CFP tomorrow.

So what that starts is a merry-go-round where one AAC team ahead of Boise loses, but are leap-frogged by the AAC team that beat the first AAC team.

It's like when #8 Georgia plays #6 Florida, and SEC-haters think "well now an SEC team is going to be knocked out of NY6 contention". And Georgia wins, and what happens is Georgia moves up to #6, Florida drops to #9, and basically the SEC is exactly where it was before the game.

The only way the AAC isn't getting the bid is if these top teams like Memphis and Navy and Cincy and SMU lose to *bad* AAC teams, not each other. Boise needs for upsets to happen - USF to beat Memphis, for example, or ECU to beat Cincy, which almost happened but didn't.

And that is unlikely.

All of this leapfrogging disregards the fact that if Boise’s ranking isn’t static. As long as they keep winning, their rank will rise as well. Every week that passes with Boise continuing to win will see a leapfrogging scenario harder and harder. You also have to consider P5 teams that go on a run these last few weeks. Even a small splash in the pool from some of those school will see them inexplicably hop into the rankings. Not to mention the teams that lose that are currently ranked in the 10-20 range. Those losses could actually widen the gap between Boise and the next AAC team, depending on where they drop in the rankings.

No question, the rankings are dynamic and now that the CFP is out we have a clearer picture.

But I don't see Boise rising much via attrition, as their schedule is weak. The CFP has a history of not rewarding rising by attrition much.

And with AAC teams all around them, I think leapfrogging is likely.

But we shall see.

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RE: G5 New Year 6 Bowl Race
(11-08-2019 08:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:55 PM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 12:41 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 11:23 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Boise best chance for the NY6 game is to have a 2-loss AAC champ which has a really good chance of happening.

I think this is wishful thinking. The AAC is strong, it is likely to have four ranked teams in the CFP tomorrow.

So what that starts is a merry-go-round where one AAC team ahead of Boise loses, but are leap-frogged by the AAC team that beat the first AAC team.

It's like when #8 Georgia plays #6 Florida, and SEC-haters think "well now an SEC team is going to be knocked out of NY6 contention". And Georgia wins, and what happens is Georgia moves up to #6, Florida drops to #9, and basically the SEC is exactly where it was before the game.

The only way the AAC isn't getting the bid is if these top teams like Memphis and Navy and Cincy and SMU lose to *bad* AAC teams, not each other. Boise needs for upsets to happen - USF to beat Memphis, for example, or ECU to beat Cincy, which almost happened but didn't.

And that is unlikely.

All of this leapfrogging disregards the fact that if Boise’s ranking isn’t static. As long as they keep winning, their rank will rise as well. Every week that passes with Boise continuing to win will see a leapfrogging scenario harder and harder. You also have to consider P5 teams that go on a run these last few weeks. Even a small splash in the pool from some of those school will see them inexplicably hop into the rankings. Not to mention the teams that lose that are currently ranked in the 10-20 range. Those losses could actually widen the gap between Boise and the next AAC team, depending on where they drop in the rankings.

No question, the rankings are dynamic and now that the CFP is out we have a clearer picture.

But I don't see Boise rising much via attrition, as their schedule is weak. The CFP has a history of not rewarding rising by attrition much.

And with AAC teams all around them, I think leapfrogging is likely.

But we shall see.

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(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.
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(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.
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(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

As a Cincinnati alum and fan, the one thing that gives me pause is that my alma mater is in this weird place were we are not considered a big dog, yet at the same time not ever given the loveable underdog role either. We've been screwed over in football and basketball many times by selection committees and I can see them saying at year's end they are choosing BSU/San Diego State to give the underdog a slot in a NY6 bowl.

Hope I am wrong because for the reasons articulated by you and some others, the AAC champ would be deserving based on the SOS.
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(11-08-2019 08:57 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

As a Cincinnati alum and fan, the one thing that gives me pause is that my alma mater is in this weird place were we are not considered a big dog, yet at the same time not ever given the loveable underdog role either. We've been screwed over in football and basketball many times by selection committees and I can see them saying at year's end they are choosing BSU/San Diego State to give the underdog a slot in a NY6 bowl.

Hope I am wrong because for the reasons articulated by you and some others, the AAC champ would be deserving based on the SOS.

If Cincy wins out they would have wins over ranked UCF, ranked Memphis, and then ranked Navy/SMU in the title game. Boise/SDSU just doesn't have that- they'd have 1 win- the other.
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(11-08-2019 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:57 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

As a Cincinnati alum and fan, the one thing that gives me pause is that my alma mater is in this weird place were we are not considered a big dog, yet at the same time not ever given the loveable underdog role either. We've been screwed over in football and basketball many times by selection committees and I can see them saying at year's end they are choosing BSU/San Diego State to give the underdog a slot in a NY6 bowl.

Hope I am wrong because for the reasons articulated by you and some others, the AAC champ would be deserving based on the SOS.

If Cincy wins out they would have wins over ranked UCF, ranked Memphis, and then ranked Navy/SMU in the title game. Boise/SDSU just doesn't have that- they'd have 1 win- the other.

I don't disagree Stever, I am just saying I would not be surprised.
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(11-08-2019 09:08 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 09:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:57 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

As a Cincinnati alum and fan, the one thing that gives me pause is that my alma mater is in this weird place were we are not considered a big dog, yet at the same time not ever given the loveable underdog role either. We've been screwed over in football and basketball many times by selection committees and I can see them saying at year's end they are choosing BSU/San Diego State to give the underdog a slot in a NY6 bowl.

Hope I am wrong because for the reasons articulated by you and some others, the AAC champ would be deserving based on the SOS.

If Cincy wins out they would have wins over ranked UCF, ranked Memphis, and then ranked Navy/SMU in the title game. Boise/SDSU just doesn't have that- they'd have 1 win- the other.

I don't disagree Stever, I am just saying I would not be surprised.

I'd be shocked... Cincy still has Memphis and then the AAC title game... Boise on the other hand- #51, #122, #63, and #107 teams(before the MWC title game). Huge difference.
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(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.


As a major fan of Memphis and a strong, long-time follower of Cincinnati, I hate to say it ... but I think esayem might be correct with this hypothetical.

I want the American to place a team in the NY6 Bowl but a two-loss AAC team being picked over a one-loss Boise with its cache and history?

I understand the difference in the strengths of schedules. But, ...
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(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

Yeah, I already said that Captain Obvious.
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(11-08-2019 08:57 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

As a Cincinnati alum and fan, the one thing that gives me pause is that my alma mater is in this weird place were we are not considered a big dog, yet at the same time not ever given the loveable underdog role either. We've been screwed over in football and basketball many times by selection committees and I can see them saying at year's end they are choosing BSU/San Diego State to give the underdog a slot in a NY6 bowl.

Hope I am wrong because for the reasons articulated by you and some others, the AAC champ would be deserving based on the SOS.

If you guys win out it’s a lock. Plus, you have a ringer for a basketball coach and will be routinely battling Memphis for the conference title.
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(11-08-2019 09:23 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.


As a major fan of Memphis and a strong, long-time follower of Cincinnati, I hate to say it ... but I think esayem might be correct with this hypothetical.

I want the American to place a team in the NY6 Bowl but a two-loss AAC team being picked over a one-loss Boise with its cache and history?

I understand the difference in the strengths of schedules. But, ...

I think Memphis wins out, hosts the CCG, and UC ends up playing back to back game @Memphis. Maybe 3 games if UC goes to the liberty bowl.
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(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
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(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

I would agree, but you moved the goal posts again. The discussion is whether a 2-loss AAC Champ would be picked ahead of a one-loss Boise, which won't happen, IMHO.
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RE: G5 New Year 6 Bowl Race
(11-08-2019 10:59 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:51 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 08:41 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

Any number of 2-loss AAC champs will have multiple quality wins better than Boise's (best case) two wins above the FBS median, and losses better than Boise's loss to .500 BYU.

Those are the things the committee looks at. Theyve said so, out loud and in public.

If Boise's statue of liberty 12 years ago meant jack squat, they wouldn't ALREADY be behind multiple AAC teams

No, you’re just wrong. They’re already in position to leapfrog them. It’s not like Boise isn’t in striking position.

Look at the rankings and tell me the past doesn’t matter. Notre Dame is one spot behind a team that beat them by 30. Boise developed a giant killer name and if they win out they will be in the G5 discussion.

If the AAC title game is 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU or Navy- there is nothing Boise can do about it. Absolutely nothing. If one of those 3 teams- or Memphis wins out- they are the g5 rep no matter what.

I would agree, but you moved the goal posts again. The discussion is whether a 2-loss AAC Champ would be picked ahead of a one-loss Boise, which won't happen, IMHO.

what was said to what I replied was if Boise wins out they will be in the G5 discussion. And my retort to that is that if it's 1 loss Cincy vs 1 loss SMU/Navy- there isn't a damn thing that Boise can do about it.
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RE: G5 New Year 6 Bowl Race
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

And you're just wrong. I don't know what world you are living in where you think this committee would put a 2-loss G5 champ from the AAC over a 1-loss G5 champ that is Boise.

No way no how that will happen.
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RE: G5 New Year 6 Bowl Race
(11-08-2019 11:19 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:46 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 10:38 PM)esayem Wrote:  A 2 loss AAC will not get in over a 1 loss Boise. It’s Boise, of Statue of Liberty fame. They will jump any 2 loss AAC. Although, I don’t think they get in over a 1 loss AAC.

You're just wrong.

And you're just wrong. I don't know what world you are living in where you think this committee would put a 2-loss G5 champ from the AAC over a 1-loss G5 champ that is Boise.

No way no how that will happen.

what will be interesting to see is who gets in 1st- UCF or San Diego St.
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