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Haith ... did you confuse Loyola Chicago and Loyola Marymount? This isn't a good home and home to get.
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(05-14-2021 01:07 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

Haith ... did you confuse Loyola Chicago and Loyola Marymount? This isn't a good home and home to get.

There maybe a recruiting angle we do not see, but otherwise it is a puzzlingly arrangement for an AAC school.
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Is it really a bad series though? My issue would be if that is one of his 3-4 signature games of the non-conference. If it is a filler game, Loyola Marymount seems as good as anyone. Everyone knows Loyola Marymount thanks to Paul Westhead, Bo Kimble and Hank Gathers.
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(05-15-2021 11:58 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  Is it really a bad series though? My issue would be if that is one of his 3-4 signature games of the non-conference. If it is a filler game, Loyola Marymount seems as good as anyone. Everyone knows Loyola Marymount thanks to Paul Westhead, Bo Kimble and Hank Gathers.

playing Marymount isnt the issue, its that its a home an home... this is a buy game for most of the aac
Marymount is actually projected to be a top 100 team next season.. its a sad indication that this is the level of teams we are doing home and home with (that isnt some rivalry)

imagine Oklahoma scheduling a home and home with la tech....la tech is a great mid major but still not a great look...

this doesnt look great, i can get over that.. no one will care about this next week...

what's troubling to me is teams only do a certain amount of home and homes each year, if they are using 1 on Marymount this is an early indication Tulsa will have a terrible schedule ...
if they are doing home and home with Marymount they likely dont have a stash of touted games, and doing what they can to get good games.. if marymount is a home and home, what is going to be the level of the buy games ...

tulsa also isnt in a mte yet when 80% of high majors are already in MTEs.. theres enough good teams left to maybe make 2 more great MTEs.. if tulsa isnt in one of those, pairing up with a leftover big 10 team and picking up 2 other scrubs is their best bet for atleast a rewarding mte
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(05-15-2021 12:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(05-15-2021 11:58 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  Is it really a bad series though? My issue would be if that is one of his 3-4 signature games of the non-conference. If it is a filler game, Loyola Marymount seems as good as anyone. Everyone knows Loyola Marymount thanks to Paul Westhead, Bo Kimble and Hank Gathers.

playing Marymount isnt the issue, its that its a home an home... this is a buy game for most of the aac
Marymount is actually projected to be a top 100 team next season.. its a sad indication that this is the level of teams we are doing home and home with (that isnt some rivalry)

imagine Oklahoma scheduling a home and home with la tech....la tech is a great mid major but still not a great look...

this doesnt look great, i can get over that.. no one will care about this next week...

what's troubling to me is teams only do a certain amount of home and homes each year, if they are using 1 on Marymount this is an early indication Tulsa will have a terrible schedule ...
if they are doing home and home with Marymount they likely dont have a stash of touted games, and doing what they can to get good games.. if marymount is a home and home, what is going to be the level of the buy games ...

tulsa also isnt in a mte yet when 80% of high majors are already in MTEs.. theres enough good teams left to maybe make 2 more great MTEs.. if tulsa isnt in one of those, pairing up with a leftover big 10 team and picking up 2 other scrubs is their best bet for atleast a rewarding mte

Don't expect anything from us. Haith is trying to schedule to save his job. You heard his comments after the tourney. Because of our last AD he rightfully believed he could coast on a record built of crap. Essentially next year cost us nothing if we fire him, he is trying to get a 20 win season so he gets a real extension (off the schedule that won't happen even at 25 games) or looks like a good pick up who got an unreasonable fanbase who turned on him.

There are zero signs he will do anything to excite fans, test his team, make the changes necessary to be truly successful, or figure out how to be a coach for one more year at Tulsa. Our AD made sure that when he gets real power this fall Haith can be dealt with as cheaply as possible since he hung on by circumstances this last year. I was told given the situations from covid, the money, the president/AD changes, out right terrible timing, etc that this was the best outcome with the least outright negative effects. I was also told this was going to hurt no matter what we did so they made the best bad choice they had. Haith also had engendered some good will from some previous behind the scenes stuff.

I can not confirm this part, but I was told by someone else Monty also is in a similar position. With him having a "winning" season, the short ranking time, and Zaven being a top 20 draft pick, Tulsa is in a he wins and leaves for the best spot he can find or Monty loses, TU fires him half way through the season, give interim job to our DC, and see what we can do. While Monty was apparently quite an ass behind the scenes he did take a hit for us and has been made whole from it since, Zaven saved his job and we don't have another of those just lying around. This is not from the same source I trust who I asked about Haith after it was announced he would remain, but a couple people who would know stuff have said the same basic story.
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(05-15-2021 11:58 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  Is it really a bad series though? My issue would be if that is one of his 3-4 signature games of the non-conference. If it is a filler game, Loyola Marymount seems as good as anyone. Everyone knows Loyola Marymount thanks to Paul Westhead, Bo Kimble and Hank Gathers.

Those Loyola Marymount teams with the insane offense were probably the most fun teams to watch in CBB history. Their nationally televised game against LSU, featuring Shaq as a freshman, was one of the greatest games I've ever seen, and one of the VERY few games I'll watch a replay of; it comes up on the SEC Network once in a while.

(LSU won 148-141 in OT. It was 134-134 at the end of regulation.)
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(05-15-2021 11:36 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(05-14-2021 01:07 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

Haith ... did you confuse Loyola Chicago and Loyola Marymount? This isn't a good home and home to get.

There maybe a recruiting angle we do not see, but otherwise it is a puzzlingly arrangement for an AAC school.

We’ll most likely see L/M at the Jacksonville tourney so, obviously, they are on the short list fir AAC coaches in hot water.
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winnable game for Tulane

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