(11-03-2019 09:25 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 06:26 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  All these schools in the AAC will lose another game because they have not impressed me much.

DAMN! Take that AAC!!

LOL! King David just DESTROYED the AAC!!

(11-03-2019 10:49 AM)bullet Wrote:  Not many laughable scores as only 2 P5 1 or 2 loss teams fell-and both fell to other 1 or 2 loss teams (Florida to UGA, VT to ND). It was only SMU (which oddsmakers favored Memphis), App St. and UAB (underdog to TN) who lost of the G5 0-1-2 loss teams.

UAB was 6-1 heading into the game, but had yet to beat a team with a winning record. Prior to Tennessee, their nonconference schedule included a SWAC team and two opponents who were a combined 0-15 against FBS competition heading into the weekend. Their strength of schedule rank was 129th (out of 130).

(11-03-2019 08:43 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-02-2019 09:58 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Memphis and SMU are putting on a great show. They're showing why the AAC west is ranked over several p5 divisions. Whew!! Lol

Well yeah, if you think matador-defense is indicative of being great?

Yep. You are so anti AAC that I can jerk your chain on command now. I posted that knowing you would come running. LOLOL. However the post is factual.

(11-03-2019 08:01 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Ah, the G4 delusional thinking. Another reason to cheer for Boise

Cheer for whomever you want. In the grand scheme of things who cares, it's a free country. However I've noticed that ESPN is really starting to take a liking to the AAC,and there's been a noticeably positive uptick in they're point of view regarding the AAC. Heck you don't hear them even use the terms g5 and AAC in the same sentences as often anymore, and that my friend is called separation.

(11-03-2019 02:06 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 08:01 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Ah, the G4 delusional thinking. Another reason to cheer for Boise

Cheer for whomever you want. In the grand scheme of things who cares, it's a free country. However I've noticed that ESPN is really starting to take a liking to the AAC,and there's been a noticeably positive uptick in they're point of view regarding the AAC. Heck you don't hear them even use the terms g5 and AAC in the same sentences as often anymore, and that my friend is called separation.

ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

(11-03-2019 02:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:06 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 08:01 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Ah, the G4 delusional thinking. Another reason to cheer for Boise

Cheer for whomever you want. In the grand scheme of things who cares, it's a free country. However I've noticed that ESPN is really starting to take a liking to the AAC,and there's been a noticeably positive uptick in they're point of view regarding the AAC. Heck you don't hear them even use the terms g5 and AAC in the same sentences as often anymore, and that my friend is called separation.

ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:06 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 08:01 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Ah, the G4 delusional thinking. Another reason to cheer for Boise

Cheer for whomever you want. In the grand scheme of things who cares, it's a free country. However I've noticed that ESPN is really starting to take a liking to the AAC,and there's been a noticeably positive uptick in they're point of view regarding the AAC. Heck you don't hear them even use the terms g5 and AAC in the same sentences as often anymore, and that my friend is called separation.

ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

(11-03-2019 02:35 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:06 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 08:01 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Ah, the G4 delusional thinking. Another reason to cheer for Boise

Cheer for whomever you want. In the grand scheme of things who cares, it's a free country. However I've noticed that ESPN is really starting to take a liking to the AAC,and there's been a noticeably positive uptick in they're point of view regarding the AAC. Heck you don't hear them even use the terms g5 and AAC in the same sentences as often anymore, and that my friend is called separation.

ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief. I see the AAC as a growth stock and the pac12 as a mature stock in a saturated market where they are locked into a closed market (western time zone and far less of a rabid fan base). The reason that you've given for why the AAC is getting so much more exposure is precisely why I think that ESPN views us basically a wash with the pac12. They can get comparable ratings of the pac12 (what 20-25mil) with the AAC (8mil). I will guarantee you that ESPN will never bid on the pac12 as long as they have the AAC. On a side note any ratings the AAC has ever gotten have been with no promo cost. How much does Fox have to spend on promoting the pac12 for not necessarily much better ratings?

(11-03-2019 02:57 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:35 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:06 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Cheer for whomever you want. In the grand scheme of things who cares, it's a free country. However I've noticed that ESPN is really starting to take a liking to the AAC,and there's been a noticeably positive uptick in they're point of view regarding the AAC. Heck you don't hear them even use the terms g5 and AAC in the same sentences as often anymore, and that my friend is called separation.

ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief. I see the AAC as a growth stock and the pac12 as a mature stock in a saturated market where they are locked into a closed market (western time zone and far less of a rabid fan base). The reason that you've given for why the AAC is getting so much more exposure is precisely why I think that ESPN views us basically a wash with the pac12. They can get comparable ratings of the pac12 (what 20-25mil) with the AAC (8mil). I will guarantee you that ESPN will never bid on the pac12 as long as they have the AAC. On a side note any ratings the AAC has ever gotten have been with no promo cost. How much does Fox have to spend on promoting the pac12 for not necessarily much better ratings?

Again, the Pac-12 has a partial deal with FOX. So do the Big Ten and Big XII. You’re comparing apples to oranges. If FOX wasn’t involved, you’d see more B1G, XII and PAC games on ABC/ESPN. An apples to apples comparison would be if those three power conferences had an exclusive deal with ESPN and the AAC still had favorable games on said network then I’d absolutely agree with you that ESPN values the AAC and Pac-12 equally. Also, you’re forgetting the Pac-12 will renegotiate a new tv deal in 2024. The AAC is stuck with its $7 million ESPN deal until the early 2030’s. Probably by the time the new tv deal is being renegotiated, Larry Scott and his lavish lifestyle will be a thing of the past and they’ll get a good deal, not a B1G and SEC level deal but at least somewhat comparable to the Big XII.

(11-03-2019 03:30 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:57 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:35 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief. I see the AAC as a growth stock and the pac12 as a mature stock in a saturated market where they are locked into a closed market (western time zone and far less of a rabid fan base). The reason that you've given for why the AAC is getting so much more exposure is precisely why I think that ESPN views us basically a wash with the pac12. They can get comparable ratings of the pac12 (what 20-25mil) with the AAC (8mil). I will guarantee you that ESPN will never bid on the pac12 as long as they have the AAC. On a side note any ratings the AAC has ever gotten have been with no promo cost. How much does Fox have to spend on promoting the pac12 for not necessarily much better ratings?

Again, the Pac-12 has a partial deal with FOX. So do the Big Ten and Big XII. You’re comparing apples to oranges. If FOX wasn’t involved, you’d see more B1G, XII and PAC games on ABC/ESPN. An apples to apples comparison would be if those three power conferences had an exclusive deal with ESPN and the AAC still had favorable games on said network then I’d absolutely agree with you that ESPN values the AAC and Pac-12 equally. Also, you’re forgetting the Pac-12 will renegotiate a new tv deal in 2024. The AAC is stuck with its $7 million ESPN deal until the early 2030’s. Probably by the time the new tv deal is being renegotiated, Larry Scott and his lavish lifestyle will be a thing of the past and they’ll get a good deal, not a B1G and SEC level deal but at least somewhat comparable to the Big XII.

Hmmm Okay. You have your reasonable opinion and I have mine and.

(11-03-2019 01:50 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 08:43 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-02-2019 09:58 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Memphis and SMU are putting on a great show. They're showing why the AAC west is ranked over several p5 divisions. Whew!! Lol

Well yeah, if you think matador-defense is indicative of being great?

Yep. You are so anti AAC that I can jerk your chain on command now.

Suuuuure you did.

(11-03-2019 02:57 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:35 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:06 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Cheer for whomever you want. In the grand scheme of things who cares, it's a free country. However I've noticed that ESPN is really starting to take a liking to the AAC,and there's been a noticeably positive uptick in they're point of view regarding the AAC. Heck you don't hear them even use the terms g5 and AAC in the same sentences as often anymore, and that my friend is called separation.

ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief.

It's his 'belief' because unlike you, he understands reality. The AAC just signed for $7m a school, far, far less than what the PAC is getting.

Good Lord.

(11-03-2019 04:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:57 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:35 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:08 PM)JRsec Wrote:  ESPN realizes that the AAC is going to be in more of their minor bowls this season and November is a great time to build interest in those games because it helps their advertising bottom line.

Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief.

It's his 'belief' because unlike you, he understands reality. The AAC just signed for $7m a school, far, far less than what the PAC is getting.

Good Lord.

Well since you snatched that sentence out of context, feel free to argue with yourself on that one buddy. I'll sit back and watch you.

(11-03-2019 04:59 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 04:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:57 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:35 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief.

It's his 'belief' because unlike you, he understands reality. The AAC just signed for $7m a school, far, far less than what the PAC is getting.

Good Lord.

Well since you snatched that sentence out of context, feel free to argue with yourself on that one buddy. I'll sit back and watch you.

A better analogy is how many PAC games have anybody watched this year compared to the AAC. This is the point that needs to be proved at this point.

SMU vs Memphis: 2.93 million viewers
Oregon vs USC: 2.81 million viewers
And that is why ESPN loves us and the marketing campaign the AAC launched with P6 has worked.

Also the whole Boise beat BYU factor means nothing, USF beat BYU and they are having a down year. So by the logic that was stated USF could beat Boise. And when the year ends and its time for the CCG for the AAC, it will be two ranked teams and the winner is going to the Cotton Bowl because BSU is not going to be able to catch up.

(11-03-2019 04:59 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 04:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:57 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:35 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 02:20 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  Well that and fact that the AAC is a cash cow for them. From an ROI POV the AAC is pure ratings gravy. ESPN would have never given the AAC gameday and the ABC primetime slot if they didn't think we could carry it. I honestly think that ESPN views the AAC as comparable to the pac12 but at a discount price. As far as minor bowl games, the AAC is not in any more than they were before. Actually ESPN usually move our better teams around to better matchups against p5s. I think ESPN views the AAC as the 6th man like on a basketball team Haha. 1st off the bench and can hold their own.

I was agreeing with you until the Pac-12 comment. You’re nowhere close to the Pac-12 in value and national interest. As much as they currently suck, USC alone gets more national attention than the entire AAC combined.

The reason why the AAC is getting the exposure they’re getting is because four of the power five conferences have their own conference networks not to mention three of those said conferences have a deal with FOX. There’s more available windows on the ESPN family of networks now that the SEC and ACC have their ESPN backed networks. If FOX wasn’t in the equation, you’d probably seen Nebraska at Purdue, #9 Utah at Washington on ESPN/2 and #7 Oregon at USC on prime time on either ABC or ESPN. Even the Sun Belt is getting favorable ESPN exposure because of the reasons I stated above.

As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief.

It's his 'belief' because unlike you, he understands reality. The AAC just signed for $7m a school, far, far less than what the PAC is getting.

Good Lord.

Well since you snatched that sentence out of context, feel free to argue with yourself on that one buddy. I'll sit back and watch you.

That's like me writing an NFL column today in which i say "the New York Jets are going to win the Super Bowl this year" and someone criticizing that statement, and me then saying "you snatched it out of context".

Absurd, since there IS NO context in which that statement makes any kind of sense.

Ditto for your statement about the value of the PAC and AAC.

(11-03-2019 10:46 PM)liquidshade Wrote:  SMU vs Memphis: 2.93 million viewers
Oregon vs USC: 2.81 million viewers
And that is why ESPN loves us and the marketing campaign the AAC launched with P6 has worked.

Also the whole Boise beat BYU factor means nothing, USF beat BYU and they are having a down year. So by the logic that was stated USF could beat Boise. And when the year ends and its time for the CCG for the AAC, it will be two ranked teams and the winner is going to the Cotton Bowl because BSU is not going to be able to catch up.

Boise State lost to BYU because of their QB was injured from the week before. If he was not injured? Boise would be higher than SMU. Since he is back? They beat a strong San Jose State team. Boise State was not punished in the polls since they took into account the starting QB sat out.

(11-04-2019 11:59 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 10:46 PM)liquidshade Wrote:  SMU vs Memphis: 2.93 million viewers
Oregon vs USC: 2.81 million viewers
And that is why ESPN loves us and the marketing campaign the AAC launched with P6 has worked.

Also the whole Boise beat BYU factor means nothing, USF beat BYU and they are having a down year. So by the logic that was stated USF could beat Boise. And when the year ends and its time for the CCG for the AAC, it will be two ranked teams and the winner is going to the Cotton Bowl because BSU is not going to be able to catch up.

Boise State lost to BYU because of their QB was injured from the week before. If he was not injured? Boise would be higher than SMU. Since he is back? They beat a strong San Jose State team. Boise State was not punished in the polls since they took into account the starting QB sat out.

Um, Boise dropped from 14 to 22 in the AP poll after losing to BYU.

That's getting punished.

That said, we've been talking about the AP and Coaches polls because they are what have been out there. Tomorrow we will find out where everyone actually stands.

(11-04-2019 11:59 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(11-03-2019 10:46 PM)liquidshade Wrote:  SMU vs Memphis: 2.93 million viewers
Oregon vs USC: 2.81 million viewers
And that is why ESPN loves us and the marketing campaign the AAC launched with P6 has worked.

Also the whole Boise beat BYU factor means nothing, USF beat BYU and they are having a down year. So by the logic that was stated USF could beat Boise. And when the year ends and its time for the CCG for the AAC, it will be two ranked teams and the winner is going to the Cotton Bowl because BSU is not going to be able to catch up.

Boise State lost to BYU because of their QB was injured from the week before. If he was not injured? Boise would be higher than SMU. Since he is back? They beat a strong San Jose State team. Boise State was not punished in the polls since they took into account the starting QB sat out.

Nice excuse. BYU also had their 2nd Stringer out there.

Boise didn’t seem to have trouble putting up points against Hawaii with the backup. I did see that the stud starter threw for just 200 yards and zero TDs against San Jose. Man that’s a Heisman worthy performance!

(11-03-2019 02:57 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  As far as the AAC being nowhere close to the pac12 in value and national interest, ok that's your belief. I see the AAC as a growth stock and the pac12 as a mature stock in a saturated market where they are locked into a closed market (western time zone and far less of a rabid fan base). The reason that you've given for why the AAC is getting so much more exposure is precisely why I think that ESPN views us basically a wash with the pac12. They can get comparable ratings of the pac12 (what 20-25mil) with the AAC (8mil). I will guarantee you that ESPN will never bid on the pac12 as long as they have the AAC. On a side note any ratings the AAC has ever gotten have been with no promo cost. How much does Fox have to spend on promoting the pac12 for not necessarily much better ratings?

Really? You see the AAC as a growth stock? I hope you are not giving investment advice for a living. The AAC has a $7 million TV deal per school per year with ESPN through 2031-2032. So how do they grow that? The Pac-12 handed out revenue of $31 million per school, which sucks compared to the other power conference schools. On the other hand, the Pac-12 TV contract is up in 2024-2025 and they are the only conference with 100% ownership of their network, which gives them flexibility and options.

The Pac-12 and the AAC are in different worlds. For example, Cincinnati in 2017-2018 had an athletic budget of $48 million. UCLA had $55 million in 2017-2018 in athletic donations alone and a $131 million athletic budget. Cincinnati swept UCLA in both basketball and football the past two years, yet Mick Cronin left Cincinnati basketball for UCLA and the Cincinnati AD is headed to USC. The potential at UCLA and USC is significantly better.

If we are talking talent per conference, this is an example, the 2019 NFL Draft by college conference:

SEC: 64
Big Ten: 40
Pac-12: 33
ACC: 28
Big 12: 26
AAC: 11
Mountain West: 10

That talent is the reason that a one-loss Pac-12 school will get into a college football playoff before an unbeaten AAC school.