(10-25-2019 12:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 11:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's probably true if "toughness" is the barometer by which he is measuring.

Last year Memphis had seniors in Martin (tough as hell) Parks (BIG and not afraid to mix it up) Brewton (scrappy as hell) and Kyvon (well, ok, maybe not) along with Antwann (YEP tough) among others.

These guys are mostly all frosh and don't have the experience or general need to be "tough" against a D2 patsy. I imagine the team will "toughen" up as the season progresses and when needed.

But otherwise, not a terribly offensive observation.

Agree, but it still looks like a really silly comment after a 33 point beat down... Sometimes, it is just best to compliment and then go lick your wounds and move on.

Yep, it’s dumb. That’s like the Dolphins getting drilled by the Pats and then a Miami player saying, “They won but, Tom Brady’s not very athletic.” Not wrong to think it or even say it (behind closed doors), but the timing is definitely poor.

(10-25-2019 11:30 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 11:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's probably true if "toughness" is the barometer by which he is measuring.

Last year Memphis had seniors in Martin (tough as hell) Parks (BIG and not afraid to mix it up) Brewton (scrappy as hell) and Kyvon (well, ok, maybe not) along with Antwann (YEP tough) among others.

These guys are mostly all frosh and don't have the experience or general need to be "tough" against a D2 patsy. I imagine the team will "toughen" up as the season progresses and when needed.

But otherwise, not a terribly offensive observation.

Don't forgot about Raynere-- he may have been our toughest player.

BTW, Raynere was at the game. He posted on FB that it was his first time at the Forum without playing. Said it was weird.
Ferrokhan Hall responded to him: “get used to it!”

(10-25-2019 11:30 AM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 11:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's probably true if "toughness" is the barometer by which he is measuring.

Last year Memphis had seniors in Martin (tough as hell) Parks (BIG and not afraid to mix it up) Brewton (scrappy as hell) and Kyvon (well, ok, maybe not) along with Antwann (YEP tough) among others.

These guys are mostly all frosh and don't have the experience or general need to be "tough" against a D2 patsy. I imagine the team will "toughen" up as the season progresses and when needed.

But otherwise, not a terribly offensive observation.

Don't forgot about Raynere-- he may have been our toughest player.

Yep.

(10-25-2019 01:19 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 12:04 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 11:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's probably true if "toughness" is the barometer by which he is measuring.

Last year Memphis had seniors in Martin (tough as hell) Parks (BIG and not afraid to mix it up) Brewton (scrappy as hell) and Kyvon (well, ok, maybe not) along with Antwann (YEP tough) among others.

These guys are mostly all frosh and don't have the experience or general need to be "tough" against a D2 patsy. I imagine the team will "toughen" up as the season progresses and when needed.

But otherwise, not a terribly offensive observation.

Agree, but it still looks like a really silly comment after a 33 point beat down... Sometimes, it is just best to compliment and then go lick your wounds and move on.

Yep, it’s dumb. That’s like the Dolphins getting drilled by the Pats and then a Miami player saying, “They won but, Tom Brady’s not very athletic.” Not wrong to think it or even say it (behind closed doors), but the timing is definitely poor.

TrUeTh

(10-25-2019 10:55 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  The Tigers hit pretty hard in the second half, only allowing CBU to shoot 17% from the field. Not sure I’d be commenting on toughness if my team just got crushed by 30+ and the opposing team was without their best player. We’ll see how tough they are down the road, but as a competitor, I think I’d zip it.

Well, he won't have to play Memphis again--- unless it is another preseason game AND:


Would Nick Deifel have gotten ANY publicity if he would have given the "right" answer?

NO, let him enjoy his 15 minutes, it was a smart statement that he will not pay for!

What exactly is toughness in the context of college basketball?

Here are just a few examples of how you can demonstrate true "toughness" in college basketball:

• Going after rebounds with both hands.

• Stepping to the line and knocking down pressure free throws, especially when tired.

• Talking on defense and letting your teammates know that you are there in case they get beat.

• Bump and stand up a cutter.

• Close out to a shooter under control.

• Sticking with your team's defensive principles, and doing it under pressure.

• Having a sense of urgency to stop the other team from scoring, not just your man.

• Getting on the floor for a loose ball.

• Taking a charge.

• Getting down in a stance and staying there.

• Finishing plays.

• Setting up your man and making hard cuts.

• Throwing the pass that leads to the assist.

• Getting your teammates together and keeping them together on the road.

• Not allowing yourself to get screened.

• Moving on to the next play, and displaying positive body language to give confidence to your teammates.

• Being alert on both ends of the floor.

• Filling your tank on the defensive end, and not the offensive end.

• Putting a body on somebody.

• Jumping to the ball, and taking away the ball side of the cut.

• Catching and facing the defense against pressure, not catching and dribbling.

• Not letting a ball handler split a trap.

• Taking good shots, and having the judgment to pass up challenged ones.

Toughness isn't just about being physical. It is far more than that.

According to Jay Bilas.

(10-25-2019 02:50 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  What exactly is toughness in the context of college basketball?

Here are just a few examples of how you can demonstrate true "toughness" in college basketball:

• Going after rebounds with both hands.

• Stepping to the line and knocking down pressure free throws, especially when tired.

• Talking on defense and letting your teammates know that you are there in case they get beat.

• Bump and stand up a cutter.

• Close out to a shooter under control.

• Sticking with your team's defensive principles, and doing it under pressure.

• Having a sense of urgency to stop the other team from scoring, not just your man.

• Getting on the floor for a loose ball.

• Taking a charge.

• Getting down in a stance and staying there.

• Finishing plays.

• Setting up your man and making hard cuts.

• Throwing the pass that leads to the assist.

• Getting your teammates together and keeping them together on the road.

• Not allowing yourself to get screened.

• Moving on to the next play, and displaying positive body language to give confidence to your teammates.

• Being alert on both ends of the floor.

• Filling your tank on the defensive end, and not the offensive end.

• Putting a body on somebody.

• Jumping to the ball, and taking away the ball side of the cut.

• Catching and facing the defense against pressure, not catching and dribbling.

• Not letting a ball handler split a trap.

• Taking good shots, and having the judgment to pass up challenged ones.

Toughness isn't just about being physical. It is far more than that.

According to Jay Bilas.

Since he's a Duke guy you missed the most important one.
• Ability to flop and make it look real

(10-25-2019 02:50 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  What exactly is toughness in the context of college basketball?

Here are just a few examples of how you can demonstrate true "toughness" in college basketball:

• Going after rebounds with both hands.

• Stepping to the line and knocking down pressure free throws, especially when tired.

• Talking on defense and letting your teammates know that you are there in case they get beat.

• Bump and stand up a cutter.

• Close out to a shooter under control.

• Sticking with your team's defensive principles, and doing it under pressure.

• Having a sense of urgency to stop the other team from scoring, not just your man.

• Getting on the floor for a loose ball.

• Taking a charge.

• Getting down in a stance and staying there.

• Finishing plays.

• Setting up your man and making hard cuts.

• Throwing the pass that leads to the assist.

• Getting your teammates together and keeping them together on the road.

• Not allowing yourself to get screened.

• Moving on to the next play, and displaying positive body language to give confidence to your teammates.

• Being alert on both ends of the floor.

• Filling your tank on the defensive end, and not the offensive end.

• Putting a body on somebody.

• Jumping to the ball, and taking away the ball side of the cut.

• Catching and facing the defense against pressure, not catching and dribbling.

• Not letting a ball handler split a trap.

• Taking good shots, and having the judgment to pass up challenged ones.

Toughness isn't just about being physical. It is far more than that.

According to Jay Bilas.

I’m guessing the diapers LQ wore had a visual effect on the toughness aspect. Could have been purely a visual comment

Well this statement was given to a reporter so I'm sure he was asked a question. Probably something like 'how does this Memphis team compared to last year's?' Or 'how did you guys manage to outrebound a team more athletic and much bigger than you?'

Answer, 'they're very talented but didn't seem to be as tough as last year's team.' Good question honest answer. Possibly true and nothing to get upset about LOL End of story.

(10-25-2019 02:56 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 02:50 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  What exactly is toughness in the context of college basketball?

Here are just a few examples of how you can demonstrate true "toughness" in college basketball:

• Going after rebounds with both hands.

• Stepping to the line and knocking down pressure free throws, especially when tired.

• Talking on defense and letting your teammates know that you are there in case they get beat.

• Bump and stand up a cutter.

• Close out to a shooter under control.

• Sticking with your team's defensive principles, and doing it under pressure.

• Having a sense of urgency to stop the other team from scoring, not just your man.

• Getting on the floor for a loose ball.

• Taking a charge.

• Getting down in a stance and staying there.

• Finishing plays.

• Setting up your man and making hard cuts.

• Throwing the pass that leads to the assist.

• Getting your teammates together and keeping them together on the road.

• Not allowing yourself to get screened.

• Moving on to the next play, and displaying positive body language to give confidence to your teammates.

• Being alert on both ends of the floor.

• Filling your tank on the defensive end, and not the offensive end.

• Putting a body on somebody.

• Jumping to the ball, and taking away the ball side of the cut.

• Catching and facing the defense against pressure, not catching and dribbling.

• Not letting a ball handler split a trap.

• Taking good shots, and having the judgment to pass up challenged ones.

Toughness isn't just about being physical. It is far more than that.

According to Jay Bilas.

Since he's a Duke guy you missed the most important one.
• Ability to flop and make it look real

OR TRIP SOMEONE WHEN NEEDED . G.A.

(10-25-2019 03:09 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(10-25-2019 02:50 PM)hartlessnhere Wrote:  What exactly is toughness in the context of college basketball?

Here are just a few examples of how you can demonstrate true "toughness" in college basketball:

• Going after rebounds with both hands.

• Stepping to the line and knocking down pressure free throws, especially when tired.

• Talking on defense and letting your teammates know that you are there in case they get beat.

• Bump and stand up a cutter.

• Close out to a shooter under control.

• Sticking with your team's defensive principles, and doing it under pressure.

• Having a sense of urgency to stop the other team from scoring, not just your man.

• Getting on the floor for a loose ball.

• Taking a charge.

• Getting down in a stance and staying there.

• Finishing plays.

• Setting up your man and making hard cuts.

• Throwing the pass that leads to the assist.

• Getting your teammates together and keeping them together on the road.

• Not allowing yourself to get screened.

• Moving on to the next play, and displaying positive body language to give confidence to your teammates.

• Being alert on both ends of the floor.

• Filling your tank on the defensive end, and not the offensive end.

• Putting a body on somebody.

• Jumping to the ball, and taking away the ball side of the cut.

• Catching and facing the defense against pressure, not catching and dribbling.

• Not letting a ball handler split a trap.

• Taking good shots, and having the judgment to pass up challenged ones.

Toughness isn't just about being physical. It is far more than that.

According to Jay Bilas.

I’m guessing the diapers had a visual effect on the toughness aspect. Could have been purely a visual comment

ahh the good ole days..when diapers required a pin

;

(10-25-2019 11:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's probably true if "toughness" is the barometer by which he is measuring.

Last year Memphis had seniors in Martin (tough as hell) Parks (BIG and not afraid to mix it up) Brewton (scrappy as hell) and Kyvon (well, ok, maybe not) along with Antwann (YEP tough) among others.

These guys are mostly all frosh and don't have the experience or general need to be "tough" against a D2 patsy. I imagine the team will "toughen" up as the season progresses and when needed.

But otherwise, not a terribly offensive observation.

Combine this Saluki post with Antonio5fan post 13 and you’ve got a good description of our play. Several players talked about being nervous playing their first college game in front of a large crowd in an NBA arena. They came out playing individual ball, poor defense, poor shot selection even though they hit some, and in general the first half was missing a lot of fundamentals.

We only scored 2 more points in the second half than the first but defense was night and day better. There was a period of time when shot Blocking looked like a clinic and defense disrupted every phase of the CBU game.

The competition will improve as will our play. Our bigs will heal and play. The nervousness will disappear and the toughness will be contagious. Experience is a great teacher.

Finally the crowd was not in the game the first half. That improved in the second half because of defense and fast breaks.

How much did Penny pay him to say that?

It's really a matter of 22 year olds versus teenagers.