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RE: UAB will be AAC 12th FB member
I opened this thinking it was legitimate news.

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RE: UAB will be AAC 12th FB member
(11-05-2019 08:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 08:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-04-2019 05:04 PM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  
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(11-04-2019 11:03 AM)solohawks Wrote:  I bet the AAC could get San Diego St if they wanted.

They were very excited about that potential Big East-Big West Combo and were still trying to make it work after Boise bailed.

Throw in the even wider pay gap between the AAC and the MWC and the cost savings gained by joining the Big West bus league and they could very well take the offer this time

I think both sides saw SDSU wouldnt work as a single ultra-outlier in an largely eastern US conference. The intent when Boise and SDSU were brought in was to build a western wing with 3 or 4 western members who, along with SMU and Houston---would form a reasonable western division. When that didnt pan out, it became clear that SDSU was better off as a full MW member rather than as a "football only" Big East member with their olympic sports in the far less prestigious Big West.

I think this time around any western adds outside of Air Force or BYU should be full all-sports additions. I doubt any MW school would consider a football only membership becasue the olympic options outside of the MW are not great. Thats why I see AF, Colorado St, and maybe New Mexico as the only geographically viable locations at this time (and even they are a bit of a stretch). So, if the AAC has to add a 12th, its probably one of those 3 MW schools---or one of the less "move up ready" eastern options. Frankly, if the rule change doesnt happen---I think the AAC would be better off just dealing with uneven divisions for a few years until an obvious choice for #12 becomes apparent.

Question is, why didn't it work? At that time BYU could've joined (with the Big East/AAC still remaining a BCS/P6), but obviously that didn't pan out and the AAC was ultimately demoted to one of the G5s. Would Boise & SDSU remained had we built a western wing that possibly included 2 other solid western members? My inclination is no, because once the BCS AQ label disappeared, and the TV money didn't look any better there was no advantage to Boise and SDSU joining (which until 2020, that probably is correct). With the new TV contract looming, would it be something to consider again? Possibly... but not without true P6 status IMO. If the AAC could secure a contract with a NY6 bowl... then I think you would see Boise, BYU, SDSU all be willing to join.

The thing is, everyone had a good idea that the Big East was a lame duck as far as BCS status by summer of 2012. It was locked into place by early November of 2012.

Boise and SDSU were still willing to stay the course provided the money panned out (needed to be in the 4-5 million range) and as long as a few more western teams were added.

I think the money needed to be more in the $8m to $10m range to keep Boise and SDSU, particularly Boise. That was the number that was bandied about at the time.

Also, the loss of AQ status was big as well. That took away a lot of their motivation to join. Once that was gone, and as you say by summer 2012 it was apparent it was going, their desire dissipated and it became more grudging, about money only.

That was the biggest thing, for Boise State. If they were offered football-only membership in the Big 12, with Big 12 football money, they would do that. But no non-P5 money was ever going to be enough to play football in an eastern non-P5 conference, especially given that Boise State would have paid the Big West to place their other sports there. And on the other side of it, the only solid reason for the CFKABE (Conference Formerly Known As Big East) to bring in Boise State and SDSU was if doing so helped the league hold onto AQ/P status. Because that wasn't in the cards, there was no reason to go forward on either side.
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RE: UAB will be AAC 12th FB member
(12-12-2019 08:40 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
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(12-12-2019 05:24 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(12-12-2019 05:19 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Throw UAB in the AAC East if ESPN will allow the 7 mil a year TV deal to stand.
No thanks, would rather add a quality MWC team.

Of course!
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There's rumors that CSU and UNM already reached out, and the MWC TV deal is taking a LONG time to materialize, so I wouldn't be too sure about that.

I’d take MWC founders New Mexico, Colorado St and Air Force.
Lobo basketball was down but lots of history there and their attendance numbers were shockingly high past 50 years.
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RE: UAB will be AAC 12th FB member
Meanwhile, Charlotte is quietly walking in the back door, one sport at a time.

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(12-13-2019 09:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Meanwhile, Charlotte is quietly walking in the back door, one sport at a time.

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You late. ODU already all up in that backdoor.

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(12-13-2019 11:44 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  
(12-13-2019 09:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Meanwhile, Charlotte is quietly walking in the back door, one sport at a time.

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You late. ODU already all up in that backdoor.

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And ODU has the secret weapon of the #1 prognosticator picking them in their back pocket.
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RE: UAB will be AAC 12th FB member
(12-13-2019 09:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Meanwhile, Charlotte is quietly walking in the back door, one sport at a time.

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What even is this?
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(12-13-2019 02:57 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(12-13-2019 09:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Meanwhile, Charlotte is quietly walking in the back door, one sport at a time.

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What even is this?

LOL....i was trying to figure that out too.
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(12-13-2019 03:09 PM)GoldenFunk Wrote:  
(12-13-2019 02:57 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(12-13-2019 09:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Meanwhile, Charlotte is quietly walking in the back door, one sport at a time.

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What even is this?

LOL....i was trying to figure that out too.

It was women's lacrosse or something like that. There was a post about it somewhere on the C-USA boards.
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(12-13-2019 03:10 PM)freshtop Wrote:  
(12-13-2019 03:09 PM)GoldenFunk Wrote:  
(12-13-2019 02:57 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  
(12-13-2019 09:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Meanwhile, Charlotte is quietly walking in the back door, one sport at a time.

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What even is this?

LOL....i was trying to figure that out too.

It was women's lacrosse or something like that. There was a post about it somewhere on the C-USA boards.

Charlotte is starting Women's Lacrosse and the recommended conference is the AAC since they are dropping to 5 members with UConn moving back to the BE. We also have a connection to Florida through our AD, who worked there for nearly 2 decades.
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I wouldn't think Vandy or especially Florida would want to leave the SEC.
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(12-13-2019 04:25 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I wouldn't think Vandy or especially Florida would want to leave the SEC.

It's just a Women's Lacrosse conference. Same way South Carolina and Kentucky are in Conference USA for Soccer.
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(12-13-2019 04:25 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I wouldn't think Vandy or especially Florida would want to leave the SEC.

They are currently in the AAC for women's lacrosse. UNCC was considering joining (and may have already? who knows)
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Oh wow. Vanderbilt is in the Southland for bowling. Guess they are getting ready to move. :)
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(12-12-2019 08:40 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(12-12-2019 06:37 PM)panama Wrote:  
(12-12-2019 06:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(12-12-2019 05:24 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(12-12-2019 05:19 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Throw UAB in the AAC East if ESPN will allow the 7 mil a year TV deal to stand.
No thanks, would rather add a quality MWC team.

Of course!
I’m assuming they aren’t coming.
(If MWC schools are interested then of course take any number of them)
Narrator: They're not.

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There's rumors that CSU and UNM already reached out, and the MWC TV deal is taking a LONG time to materialize, so I wouldn't be too sure about that.
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(12-13-2019 04:25 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I wouldn't think Vandy or especially Florida would want to leave the SEC.
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