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California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
Quote:California's governor announced Friday that he is pardoning three more illegal immigrants facing the possibility they will be deported, continuing a string of such actions that challenge the Trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigrants who committed crimes.
Gov. Gavin Newsom also commuted the life sentences of two youthful offenders who can now seek parole.
Newsom's office said the three facing deportation "made bad decisions" while breaking the law as teenagers or young adults, but they served their sentences and transformed their lives. Deporting them now would be "an unjust collateral consequence" harming their families and communities.
The three hail from Iran, El Salvador and Cambodia, but all now live in Los Angeles County. He also pardoned a fourth man, Curtis Reynolds, 59, of Sacramento County, who was convicted of six drug felonies between 1998 and 2003.
Pardons do not automatically protect someone from deportation because they don't erase the criminal convictions on which deportation orders often are based. But they do emphasize the person's rehabilitation. Superior court judges previously granted two of the three immigrants, plus Reynolds, certificates of rehabilitation and recommended that they receive pardons.
Newsom and his predecessor, fellow Democrat Jerry Brown, have granted several such commutations since Trump took office.
The three newly pardoned illegal immigrants are:
— Arnou Aghamalian, 42, who was convicted 20 years ago of helping his cousin set an unoccupied car on fire. The car belonged to a nightclub manager who had been arguing with his cousin. Aghamalian now owns a solar energy company and has a wife and twin newborns, according to Newsom's office. He legally entered the U.S. as a refugee from Iran with his family when he was 15.
— Victor Ayala, 38, who was convicted of felony robbery in 2001 when he shoved a security guard after shoplifting items from an electronic store. He had four prior misdemeanor convictions for theft and a hit and run in which no one was injured. The father of three now runs a carpet cleaning business. He was 2 years old when he and his parents lawfully came to the U.S. from El Salvador.
— Thear Sam, 41, who was convicted of robbing a man of his wallet and backpack when he was 18. He was later convicted of being an accessory after he separately gave a man a ride after the man stole a car, led police on a high-speed chase and escaped on foot. He has worked more than 17 years for an aviation company, and his wife and daughter are both U.S. citizens. He was 4 when he lawfully entered the U.S. as a refugee from Cambodia fleeing the Khmer Rouge.
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10-20-2019 06:14 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
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10-20-2019 07:38 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
Why he's governor of the People's Republic of California. He pardon's by dictatorial right!
He should be prosecuted by the Feds for Obstruction of Justice.
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10-20-2019 08:31 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-20-2019 08:31 PM)JRsec Wrote: (10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
Why he's governor of the People's Republic of California. He pardon's by dictatorial right!
He should be prosecuted by the Feds for Obstruction of Justice.
it ties into GTS' pooh festival.....
#muhirony
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10-20-2019 08:59 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
Libs cherish illegals far more than people who have followed the law and entered this country legally. They are sick people.
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10-20-2019 09:17 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
He's pardoning the state crimes. They can still be deported
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10-20-2019 09:57 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-20-2019 09:57 PM)fsquid Wrote: (10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
He's pardoning the state crimes. They can still be deported
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ya don't say....it still shoots into the vein of 'fk'n retarded'....
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10-20-2019 10:37 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-20-2019 09:17 PM)usmbacker Wrote: Libs cherish illegals far more than people who have followed the law and entered this country legally. They are sick people.
I don't like the tactic displayed here, but according to the article all 3 actually entered the country legally.
Assuming the description of the individuals from the article is accurate and inclusive, I don't really see where these people deserve deportation. They were all here legally, it has been decades since the crimes were committed, and all three have seemed to develop productive lives here, two business owners and one with a long term employment history.
There are a lot more dangerous illegals that should be the focus. It almost would seem that these three were hand picked for this stunt to try and make an issue of deporting "productive, family men who made a mistake 20 years ago while in the country legally" .
This deserves the Star Wars It's a Trap meme, but I don't post memes.
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10-20-2019 10:47 PM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-20-2019 10:47 PM)banker Wrote: (10-20-2019 09:17 PM)usmbacker Wrote: Libs cherish illegals far more than people who have followed the law and entered this country legally. They are sick people.
I don't like the tactic displayed here, but according to the article all 3 actually entered the country legally.
Assuming the description of the individuals from the article is accurate and inclusive, I don't really see where these people deserve deportation. They were all here legally, it has been decades since the crimes were committed, and all three have seemed to develop productive lives here, two business owners and one with a long term employment history.
There are a lot more dangerous illegals that should be the focus. It almost would seem that these three were hand picked for this stunt to try and make an issue of deporting "productive, family men who made a mistake 20 years ago while in the country legally" .
This deserves the Star Wars It's a Trap meme, but I don't post memes.
Yeah I also wondered about that in light of the thread title...
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10-21-2019 06:18 AM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-20-2019 09:57 PM)fsquid Wrote: (10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
He's pardoning the state crimes. They can still be deported
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Then what's the point?
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10-21-2019 07:43 AM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-21-2019 07:43 AM)VA49er Wrote: (10-20-2019 09:57 PM)fsquid Wrote: (10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
He's pardoning the state crimes. They can still be deported
Then what's the point?
Think of it (the pardons) as a trial-heat for the Woke Olympics.
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-21-2019 07:47 AM)Native Georgian Wrote: (10-21-2019 07:43 AM)VA49er Wrote: (10-20-2019 09:57 PM)fsquid Wrote: (10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
He's pardoning the state crimes. They can still be deported
Then what's the point?
Think of it (the pardons) as a trial-heat for the Woke Olympics.
So, merely a TDS inspred non consequential political statement. Seems about par for the course.
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-21-2019 07:43 AM)VA49er Wrote: (10-20-2019 09:57 PM)fsquid Wrote: (10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
He's pardoning the state crimes. They can still be deported
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Then what's the point?
Earns him points with his base.
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10-21-2019 08:25 AM |
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RE: California Governor Pardons 3 Illegals Facing Deportation
(10-21-2019 08:25 AM)fsquid Wrote: (10-21-2019 07:43 AM)VA49er Wrote: (10-20-2019 09:57 PM)fsquid Wrote: (10-20-2019 07:38 PM)q5sys Wrote: And how exactly can a State Governor pardon someone for a Federal Crime?
He's pardoning the state crimes. They can still be deported
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Then what's the point?
Earns him points with his base.
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