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Side note: Plenty of national press related to Bennett's contributions vs Hiram. Was happy to see that.
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Hey V2KSU.....Can you post some links to the national press coverage of Bennett. Thanks advance.
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(11-04-2019 09:38 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  For what it's worth, the screw up at least appears to only be cosmetic. The barcode on my two akron tickets is visually different. So their scanners won't reject a bunch of people at the door for having duplicate tickets at least.

Oddly enough I received my women’s tickets today and Game 11 had the same error as game 11 (Akron) on the men’s schedule. I wonder how they managed that.
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(11-05-2019 12:49 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
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(11-04-2019 06:13 PM)luckyflash Wrote:  They need to reprint the Zippy game tix. This will be a nightmare if they don't. The game isn't until Jan 31st, plenty of time to right the wrong

Agree, but added cost to reprint might take a bite out of JN Bonus. Athletic Dept is a mess. Really a shame , KSU Admin has really dropped the ball on the allegations.

Do you people think JN should be proof reading the seat numbers on all the basketball tickets? Good lord folks. Find something productive to ***** about.

To be clear, me bringing this up wasn't about Nielsen. I think it's worth talking about though because it could legitimately cause problems at the Akron game. I think every year I have to ask people to move that have squated in my seats at that game. Now I won't have tickets to prove it. To make matters more comical, it's a 6:30 game on a Friday so getting their early means leaving work early.

CALL ME CRAZY .... but it seems like I know a lot more about JN than I do about this basketball team???

You aren't crazy Cleveland. There isn't anyplace to get consistent news on the team. When I was a reporter covering Kent State, there were three newspapers with full-time beat writers dedicated to covering the Flashes. Now, there are no full-time beat writers covering KSU. Allen Moff at the Record Courier is excellent, but his time is split between filling in as an editor and reporting on high school sports because, like so many newspapers, the Courier has gutted its staff.

KentStateSports.com needs to serve as THE go-to source for news about Kent State. Unfortunately, because of Nielsen, the athletics communications staff in charge of the website and content creation has also been gutted. Ty Linder and Nick Kane, the director of video, are both excellent, but KSU won't be able to hold on to them for much longer before they escape to a place where their talent is appreciated and they are paid a living wage. Every position in the department is a revolving door because KSU can't afford to attract, train or keep talented people like Jacob Pavilack, a home-grown broadcaster and athletic communications pro who left Kent last week to take a job at Texas State.

It can, however, pay its athletic director around $436k per year.

The department is a mess. Completely mismanaged.

Teams like KSU men's basketball deserve better. They deserve to have their fans know when their games are being played. Yet three weeks of ads in the Record Courier during the last month were published promoting schedules of games that had already been played the previous week. KSU can't afford to attract, train and keep people capable of doing the job of making this look like a real Division I athletic department.

I know people are tired of all of the bitching about Nielsen, but we are only doing what we can because we love KSU, care about its future, and want to see teams, coaches and student athletes like KSUMBB get the love and respect they deserve!

I'm showing my age here, but the way Kent State Athletics is run under Nielsen reminds me of the Cleveland Cavaliers during the Ted Stepien era. It's painful.
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Sooo... Does anybody know where there is video of the end of the KSU vs. CNNH (College Near North Hill), where Al Fisher got that amazing block?
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(11-08-2019 07:35 PM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  I'm showing my age here, but the way Kent State Athletics is run under Nielsen reminds me of the Cleveland Cavaliers during the Ted Stepien era. It's painful.

So when will Joel head up to the top of Terminal Tower with some softballs?? 03-lmfao
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The only good thing I can think of from the Stepien era: World B. Free. I had season tickets one year when he was there and he was a LOT of fun to watch.
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(11-08-2019 10:15 PM)axeme Wrote:  The only good thing I can think of from the Stepien era: World B. Free. I had season tickets one year when he was there and he was a LOT of fun to watch.

Before my time, but he's responsible for the "Stepien Rule" where an NBA team cannot trade their first round pick in consecutive seasons. He probably saved some of our more recent Cavs teams from themselves with that. If we could've we probably would've traded every first rounder for a washed up vet that LeBron was friends with.
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"If we could've we probably would've traded every first rounder for a washed up vet that LeBron was friends with." LOL So true.

David, I couldn't agree more with everything you say. It NEVER was easy to get information about Kent State sports, unless you had access to about three newspapers. Now, it is worse than ever. I imagine it is that way now all over the nation, to one extent or another.
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In fairness, trading first-rounder Wiggins for Love was brilliant. Somebody (LBJ?) sensed early that Wiggins was talent without sufficient motivation, and you trade him for an all-star who’s all work.
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(11-08-2019 10:04 PM)JimJoyce Wrote:  
(11-08-2019 07:35 PM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  I'm showing my age here, but the way Kent State Athletics is run under Nielsen reminds me of the Cleveland Cavaliers during the Ted Stepien era. It's painful.

So when will Joel head up to the top of Terminal Tower with some softballs?? 03-lmfao

Haha!

As long as he doesn't try to move Kent State Athletics to Toronto and change Golden Flashes to Towers.

That announcement was one of the worst days of my life! Thank goodness for the Gunds! (of course, they took the NHL from Cleveland... That did lead to one of the greatest logos in sports history, though, with the Minnesota North Stars).
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(11-08-2019 10:15 PM)axeme Wrote:  The only good thing I can think of from the Stepien era: World B. Free. I had season tickets one year when he was there and he was a LOT of fun to watch.

World B. Free is still my favorite basketball player of all time! He may be my favorite athlete, in fact... along with Jack Nicklaus and Al Oliver.

A quick did you know... before he started his Major League Baseball career (a career that included an NL batting championship in 1982 with the Montreal Expos), Al Oliver was on his way to playing college basketball – at Kent State University!

Former KSU head men's basketball coach Robert Doll gave Oliver, a native of Portsmouth, Ohio, a full scholarship, but Oliver decided to sign instead with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1964.

Recognizing I hijacked the thread a bit, I'm trying here to turn the discussion back to KSU men's basketball.

One of my favorite players during my time working at KSU, by the way, is Danny Pippen. I always enjoyed talking with Danny and I wonder how good last year's team could have been if he was healthy. I can't wait to see what he brings to this team. He can be a true stretch four with great athleticism facing the basket. He has a good feel for his teammates, too, and could have an impact on the short corner similar to Jimmy Hall. I think playing behind Jimmy as a freshman provided Danny with a real blueprint for how to work within Rob's system.

I'll be rooting hard for him this season!
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(11-09-2019 07:42 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  "If we could've we probably would've traded every first rounder for a washed up vet that LeBron was friends with." LOL So true.

David, I couldn't agree more with everything you say. It NEVER was easy to get information about Kent State sports, unless you had access to about three newspapers. Now, it is worse than ever. I imagine it is that way now all over the nation, to one extent or another.

Hi Muskrat,

It certainly is that way for coverage of "mid-major" teams, especially in areas like ours – close to Cleveland where pro sports dominate and in a state where Ohio State gets top billing even in northeast Ohio.

When I decided to leave the Record Courier to work at Kent State, part of it was because of the changes in the newspaper business. I had gone from being a full-time KSU beat writer to splitting that time covering high school games and laying out the sports section as a desk editor two or three nights a week.

Nielsen seemed to like my idea of following the NHL model and turning kentstatesports.com into a one-stop-shop for Golden Flashes news. But after I was hired, that never really happened.

Within a few months, our director of athletic communications (who was already an interim after the previous director had quit following a "disagreement" with Nielsen) resigned to take a job in Florida. I ended up taking on the duties of sports information director for men's basketball. At the time, we did not have a graphic designer on staff. We were outsourcing all design work, and the inherent delays in doing that made it difficult for our communications staff to be nimble.

I ended up teaching myself how to do graphic design and by the time I left, I was doing more design work (season tickets, advertisements, social media graphics, website design, installments at the arena and stadium) than the job I was supposed to be doing as an in-house reporter. With no discussion or forewarning, I was moved from communications to marketing, and all of a sudden I was doing work that didn't fit my skillset. I wasn't very good at it, to be honest.

On the night I finally decided to quit, I was sitting courtside at a men's basketball game, serving again as sports information director for the team after yet another director and MBB SID had resigned, designing in-game graphics for social media... AND, because I had also been given the duties of men's and women's golf SID, I was at the same time coordinating media interviews with our men's and women's golf teams. The women's golf team had completed a win at its tournament at around tip-off of the basketball game, and reporters were calling me for quotes. AND, it was the eve of national signing day for football, so I was being sent all of the images I needed to create the social media graphics for our signees the next morning. Because I had to write the basketball game story for the website, I knew I wouldn't get out of work until midnight, and I would need to be back at the MACC five hours later to be ready for signing day.... I was doing the job of three people, and not well, for $35,000 a year and working between 50-70 hours per week. To make ends meet for my family, I had a second job doing freelance design and PR work.

I remember a mistake while juggling all of these duties, congratulating Jaylin Walker on social media for scoring his 10,000th point... Which of course was really his 1,000th point... I realized I couldn't justify continuing to stay at a job where I couldn't do my best work, and where the work I was doing was not appreciated. I had faith in myself that I could at least find a job match the $35k, and turned in my two weeks notice in an email sent from courtside during the second half of the game. Fortunately, it didn't take me long to find a job that paid me more than twice what I was making and never required me to work more than the traditional 40 hours per week. And best of all, for the first time since 2012 when I started working at KSU, I felt valued by my boss.

It's harder for people who want to stay in athletics. KSU replaced me with someone who could also do graphic design work, but that person lasted only a year. Since she left during the summer, KSU has not replaced the position. You can track the decline in social media posts and figure out the exact date when she left. Not only are fans not getting what they need, companies with contracts through KSU's IMG partnership are not getting those contracts fulfilled, so the department's poor management is damaging external business relationships as well.

Anyway, the long post is meant to show that you can't even get adequate info on the men's basketball team or any other KSU team from the department's website or social media as it is today. People like Ty and Nick Kane work their tails off and get us the information they can, but the communications department is simply stretched too thin and has too few resources to provide a Division I experience for KSU fans.

At least we still have Allen Moff at the Record Courier. If only his newspaper would allow him to spend his time doing the work he is so good at providing for the KSU athletics community.

Maybe I'll start a Kent State sports blog and find a way to bring on people like Moff, Steve Hare, and more of the people who cared about covering these teams over the years! I'm sure Nielsen would make sure I never get credentialed, though.
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(11-09-2019 08:21 AM)axeme Wrote:  In fairness, trading first-rounder Wiggins for Love was brilliant. Somebody (LBJ?) sensed early that Wiggins was talent without sufficient motivation, and you trade him for an all-star who’s all work.

True. Without that trade we don't win a championship. However, I don't necessarily think anyone saw Wiggins for what he was. I think LeBron just didn't have patience for rookie growing pains at that point in his career. And when you can get the guy who at the time was viewed as the best PF in basketball AND he stretches thr floor to create driving lanes for the two best isolation players in the world you do it without thinking twice.
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(11-09-2019 10:15 AM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  
(11-09-2019 07:42 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  "If we could've we probably would've traded every first rounder for a washed up vet that LeBron was friends with." LOL So true.

David, I couldn't agree more with everything you say. It NEVER was easy to get information about Kent State sports, unless you had access to about three newspapers. Now, it is worse than ever. I imagine it is that way now all over the nation, to one extent or another.

Hi Muskrat,

It certainly is that way for coverage of "mid-major" teams, especially in areas like ours – close to Cleveland where pro sports dominate and in a state where Ohio State gets top billing even in northeast Ohio.

When I decided to leave the Record Courier to work at Kent State, part of it was because of the changes in the newspaper business. I had gone from being a full-time KSU beat writer to splitting that time covering high school games and laying out the sports section as a desk editor two or three nights a week.

Nielsen seemed to like my idea of following the NHL model and turning kentstatesports.com into a one-stop-shop for Golden Flashes news. But after I was hired, that never really happened.

Within a few months, our director of athletic communications (who was already an interim after the previous director had quit following a "disagreement" with Nielsen) resigned to take a job in Florida. I ended up taking on the duties of sports information director for men's basketball. At the time, we did not have a graphic designer on staff. We were outsourcing all design work, and the inherent delays in doing that made it difficult for our communications staff to be nimble.

I ended up teaching myself how to do graphic design and by the time I left, I was doing more design work (season tickets, advertisements, social media graphics, website design, installments at the arena and stadium) than the job I was supposed to be doing as an in-house reporter. With no discussion or forewarning, I was moved from communications to marketing, and all of a sudden I was doing work that didn't fit my skillset. I wasn't very good at it, to be honest.

On the night I finally decided to quit, I was sitting courtside at a men's basketball game, serving again as sports information director for the team after yet another director and MBB SID had resigned, designing in-game graphics for social media... AND, because I had also been given the duties of men's and women's golf SID, I was at the same time coordinating media interviews with our men's and women's golf teams. The women's golf team had completed a win at its tournament at around tip-off of the basketball game, and reporters were calling me for quotes. AND, it was the eve of national signing day for football, so I was being sent all of the images I needed to create the social media graphics for our signees the next morning. Because I had to write the basketball game story for the website, I knew I wouldn't get out of work until midnight, and I would need to be back at the MACC five hours later to be ready for signing day.... I was doing the job of three people, and not well, for $35,000 a year and working between 50-70 hours per week. To make ends meet for my family, I had a second job doing freelance design and PR work.

I remember a mistake while juggling all of these duties, congratulating Jaylin Walker on social media for scoring his 10,000th point... Which of course was really his 1,000th point... I realized I couldn't justify continuing to stay at a job where I couldn't do my best work, and where the work I was doing was not appreciated. I had faith in myself that I could at least find a job match the $35k, and turned in my two weeks notice in an email sent from courtside during the second half of the game. Fortunately, it didn't take me long to find a job that paid me more than twice what I was making and never required me to work more than the traditional 40 hours per week. And best of all, for the first time since 2012 when I started working at KSU, I felt valued by my boss.

It's harder for people who want to stay in athletics. KSU replaced me with someone who could also do graphic design work, but that person lasted only a year. Since she left during the summer, KSU has not replaced the position. You can track the decline in social media posts and figure out the exact date when she left. Not only are fans not getting what they need, companies with contracts through KSU's IMG partnership are not getting those contracts fulfilled, so the department's poor management is damaging external business relationships as well.

Anyway, the long post is meant to show that you can't even get adequate info on the men's basketball team or any other KSU team from the department's website or social media as it is today. People like Ty and Nick Kane work their tails off and get us the information they can, but the communications department is simply stretched too thin and has too few resources to provide a Division I experience for KSU fans.

At least we still have Allen Moff at the Record Courier. If only his newspaper would allow him to spend his time doing the work he is so good at providing for the KSU athletics community.

Maybe I'll start a Kent State sports blog and find a way to bring on people like Moff, Steve Hare, and more of the people who cared about covering these teams over the years! I'm sure Nielsen would make sure I never get credentialed, though.

Dave, thanks for the great insight. Tells us a lot about how we got to this point. Also the sorry state of KSU Athletics.
BTW. 3 days now since season opener and my MBB season tickets still not in my possession. What a crew . DI Athletics , Not even D6 high schools treats fans this way. Thanks again for your report
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(11-09-2019 08:21 AM)axeme Wrote:  In fairness, trading first-rounder Wiggins for Love was brilliant. Somebody (LBJ?) sensed early that Wiggins was talent without sufficient motivation, and you trade him for an all-star who’s all work.

True. Without that trade we don't win a championship. However, I don't necessarily think anyone saw Wiggins for what he was. I think LeBron just didn't have patience for rookie growing pains at that point in his career. And when you can get the guy who at the time was viewed as the best PF in basketball AND he stretches thr floor to create driving lanes for the two best isolation players in the world you do it without thinking twice.

I think that's a better explanation for the trade than mine. LBJ wanted to hit the ground running and he couldn't do that without more veteran help and Love was perfect. He was already going to have to bring Kyrie along some. It was so unfortunate they both got injured or I have always thought that would have been the first championship.
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(11-09-2019 12:07 PM)Older and Older Wrote:  Dave, thanks for the great insight. Tells us a lot about how we got to this point. Also the sorry state of KSU Athletics.
BTW. 3 days now since season opener and my MBB season tickets still not in my possession. What a crew . DI Athletics , Not even D6 high schools treats fans this way. Thanks again for your report

No problem at all.

I'm sending you a private message with the phone number and email of a former colleague in the KSU athletic department. He said he can help you get the ticket problem figured out.

Dave
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(11-09-2019 09:38 AM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  
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(11-08-2019 07:35 PM)DavidCarducci Wrote:  I'm showing my age here, but the way Kent State Athletics is run under Nielsen reminds me of the Cleveland Cavaliers during the Ted Stepien era. It's painful.

So when will Joel head up to the top of Terminal Tower with some softballs?? 03-lmfao

Haha!

As long as he doesn't try to move Kent State Athletics to Toronto and change Golden Flashes to Towers.

That announcement was one of the worst days of my life! Thank goodness for the Gunds! (of course, they took the NHL from Cleveland... That did lead to one of the greatest logos in sports history, though, with the Minnesota North Stars).

I love hockey but Gund sending the NHL out of Cleveland was an excellent business move. It never would have survived. As it is Cleveland in its current state really can’t support 3 pro teams.
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David, I recall reading that somewhere about Al Oliver, but I can't recall where. I loved Al "Scoops" Oliver, and those Pirates teams with Oliver,Clemente, Stargell, Oliver, Sanguillen, etc. That was a different era.

I wish there were just one source online that kept a fan up with everything about Kent State sports. All an Ohio State fan has to do is pick up a newspaper, any Ohio newspaper. I have nothing against people who are Ohio State fans, but I get annoyed when people assume I care just because I live in Ohio, and even worse when people insist that I SHOULD care just because I live in Ohio.
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Muskrat, the bleacher report app kind of helps. I follow KSU basketball and football on it. The lack of coverage means there aren't usually a lot of updates from it but you see tweets linked to the teams and any articles that get enough publicity to get caught by their filters. It's definitely way more useful for pro sports but it's at least something.
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