(11-11-2019 09:07 AM)ksu315 Wrote: I'm not going to pretend to know all the allegations here but IMO:
- a large organization like KSU is NEVER going to bow to the wishes of a Flash MOB and fire Joel. If they went that route it would open Pandora's box for every organization or cause on campus. So IMO this website while interesting at first the more stories that get published with many of them 7-8 years old I don't think its very meaningful and looks like a disgruntled employee trying hard to stay relevant. message has been received by the powers that be. Its just a bad look overall for Kent. I understand and appreciate the groups passion for Kent but at what point is enough enough?
- Joel I'm sure would admit he hasn't been perfect and has made some bad decisions. But what leader in charge of a large organization hasn't?
- Joel is chastised for his salary but which one of us wouldn't try and maximize their value. Every coach and probably every poster on this website. Dave you even brag about doubling your salary after leaving Kent. So how is Joel different?
- and all the budget issues etc. you could write the same article for probably every MAC school. That's the cost of trying to play in a poker game we cant afford. The business model (especially with FBS football) is extremely flawed for schools with our lack of resources. All that isn't Joel's fault and i'm sorry 100k less in his salary isn't going to fix that.
just my .02 cents.
If you thought I was bragging, then I did a very poor job of communicating my meaning. It wasn't my intention to brag. It was meant as an example of why people leave. Anyone who leaves Kent State is going to come close to doubling his or her salary.
I also don't believe anyone has been chastising Nielsen for his salary. KSU, and Lefton in particular, should be chastised for giving him that salary. Of course he was going to take it when it was given.
The issue is that he does a poor job while making that salary. The only thing that has improved in a decade of his "leadership" is academics... which wasn't a major problem to begin with apart for APR issues with football and men's basketball.
You compared the budget issues to a poker game. If Kent State can't afford to be in the game, then it has to do a better job of maximizing the chip stack it has. I would say KSU should save closer to $200,000 per year on what it pays its AD. That's enough to pay two or three marketing professionals with some chops. We may disagree, but I think that could make a difference.
I actually agree with you, though, that Kent State is not going to fire Nielsen because of what we are doing. It's actually not our goal to "get" him fired. Are hope is to finally get these stories out there and end all of the coverups. My belief is nothing will happen, Nielsen will get a new contract after the 2020-2021 season, and Kent State Athletics will continue to slide.
While some of the stories are 7 or 8 years old, our intent was to show the continuing thread, not for any of us to stay relevant. If you think may part in this is an attempt to stay relevant, you don't know me. I have no interest beyond helping to share all of these stories that have been kept quiet so that people will understand who Nielsen is and why he is awful for Kent State Athletics. The truth is, every employee in Kent State Athletics is a disgruntled employee. If you can find more than two or three people in the department who like and/or respect the job Nielsen is doing, I would be surprised.
I don't want anyone to think I'm someone who wants to stay relevant, so I'll avoid posting on the topic from now on and allow others in the group to keep up the conversation for those who are interested in it.