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(10-19-2019 04:59 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote:  We played UNC-Pembroke in a scrimmage today in Pembroke and next Saturday we scrimmage Charleston Southern at home according to Jeff Goodman’s list.

Results?


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(10-19-2019 06:49 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-19-2019 04:59 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote:  We played UNC-Pembroke in a scrimmage today in Pembroke and next Saturday we scrimmage Charleston Southern at home according to Jeff Goodman’s list.

Results?


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Don’t know. Our best chance is HAWKING with intel, since these are technically “closed scrimmages” and he seems to have some sources with the program. Goodman has tweeted some results from today, but doubtful he tweets the results of us playing a non D1. He compiled a master list of all D1 schools scrimmages.

https://watchstadium.com/news/not-so-sec...ssion=true
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(10-19-2019 09:32 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:43 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  Why is everyone so sold on Okaura as a starter? I'm not saying we shouldn't be. Just curious. Word of mouth? Have we seen enough of him to say he's our best player? I can't recall why we are reaching that conclusion.
I've seen most practices. He's got the most talent coupled with size and has been playing both the 1 & 2. Causes problems for everyone he's matched up against in practice. Watched him at Brewster too. Solid pick up for UNCW.

Thanks. I’ve seen one too many highlight reels to bother basing my conclusions on them. Call me a realist. Or maybe I’m slightly jaded these days. This is what I was hoping to hear.
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(10-20-2019 05:20 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(10-19-2019 09:32 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:43 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  Why is everyone so sold on Okaura as a starter? I'm not saying we shouldn't be. Just curious. Word of mouth? Have we seen enough of him to say he's our best player? I can't recall why we are reaching that conclusion.
I've seen most practices. He's got the most talent coupled with size and has been playing both the 1 & 2. Causes problems for everyone he's matched up against in practice. Watched him at Brewster too. Solid pick up for UNCW.

Thanks. I’ve seen one too many highlight reels to bother basing my conclusions on them. Call me a realist. Or maybe I’m slightly jaded these days. This is what I was hoping to hear.
Apparently, They lost to Pembroke in the scrimmage.
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(10-21-2019 08:37 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(10-20-2019 05:20 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(10-19-2019 09:32 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:43 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  Why is everyone so sold on Okaura as a starter? I'm not saying we shouldn't be. Just curious. Word of mouth? Have we seen enough of him to say he's our best player? I can't recall why we are reaching that conclusion.
I've seen most practices. He's got the most talent coupled with size and has been playing both the 1 & 2. Causes problems for everyone he's matched up against in practice. Watched him at Brewster too. Solid pick up for UNCW.

Thanks. I’ve seen one too many highlight reels to bother basing my conclusions on them. Call me a realist. Or maybe I’m slightly jaded these days. This is what I was hoping to hear.
Apparently, They lost to Pembroke in the scrimmage.
They lost to a D2 team?!!?!?!?!05-ban
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(10-21-2019 08:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(10-21-2019 08:37 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(10-20-2019 05:20 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(10-19-2019 09:32 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:43 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  Why is everyone so sold on Okaura as a starter? I'm not saying we shouldn't be. Just curious. Word of mouth? Have we seen enough of him to say he's our best player? I can't recall why we are reaching that conclusion.
I've seen most practices. He's got the most talent coupled with size and has been playing both the 1 & 2. Causes problems for everyone he's matched up against in practice. Watched him at Brewster too. Solid pick up for UNCW.

Thanks. I’ve seen one too many highlight reels to bother basing my conclusions on them. Call me a realist. Or maybe I’m slightly jaded these days. This is what I was hoping to hear.
Apparently, They lost to Pembroke in the scrimmage.
They lost to a D2 team?!!?!?!?!05-ban

What in the world.... Season hasn't even started and I'm already mad lol
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Serious question. When you look at our lineup, how do we differ from a d2 team?
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(10-21-2019 09:52 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Serious question. When you look at our lineup, how do we differ from a d2 team?

I'd like to think our talent level would be higher. Look at their roster, they're actually bigger than us... I don't want to overreact over the result of a scrimmage, I just really hope this isn't a sign of things to come.
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Need WAY more information than just that they lost. Who actually played? Did all play? What was style of play? Starter vs starters and for how long? Need at least some detail or it doesn’t mean anything.
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(10-21-2019 01:37 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Need WAY more information than just that they lost. Who actually played? Did all play? What was style of play? Starter vs starters and for how long? Need at least some detail or it doesn’t mean anything.

They are a D2 school. If it is true that our talent level is superior, does it really matter who played or started or for how long? Does it really matter style of play? We only have three Freshmen and everyone else was a starter last year or a transfer who has played D1 ball.

I realize it's a scrimmage, but with our losing ways the past 2 years, i'd rather hear we won. If word came back we won, i'm sure we'd all feel better than hearing we lost.
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(10-21-2019 01:56 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(10-21-2019 01:37 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Need WAY more information than just that they lost. Who actually played? Did all play? What was style of play? Starter vs starters and for how long? Need at least some detail or it doesn’t mean anything.

They are a D2 school. If it is true that our talent level is superior, does it really matter who played or started or for how long? Does it really matter style of play? We only have three Freshmen and everyone else was a starter last year or a transfer who has played D1 ball.

I realize it's a scrimmage, but with our losing ways the past 2 years, i'd rather hear we won. If word came back we won, i'm sure we'd all feel better than hearing we lost.

Spot on, I don't know how you can say it doesn't mean anything. CB has given us nothing in his previous 2 seasons to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. This is definitely concerning to say the least.
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Details matter.
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(10-21-2019 02:09 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Details matter.

Absolutely, but so do results
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(10-21-2019 02:13 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(10-21-2019 02:09 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Details matter.

Absolutely, but so do results

This ^^^^^^

We can't continue to ignore red flags. Benefit if the doubt is earned at this point.
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Here's the thing. It should matter to McGrath since word would get out and the players walk off the court knowing they lost to a school they would turn their nose up to as D1 players.. We need to start establishing a winning culture and a winning attitude. Scrimmage or not, losing to a D2 team is not part of a winning culture.
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2 game losing streak if you count the Italy games
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I don’t disagree but it would be good to know what was good/not good. If you’re a coach, you want to see what works. If you lose with top 7-8 and them playing exclusively,that’s a different story in my mind. Not sure that happened here. That’s all I’m saying.
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I value all of the different opinions here on what sounds like an "L" to Pembroke in a scrimmage.

1. Bill clarified his point and I don't disagree with the post just above mine. It's all a matter of worrisome? Yes. How worrisome... we don't know that just yet.

2. Losing at all bothers me, just like the others said above. That's a bad precedent and doesn't give any of us any optimism considering the last two years.
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(10-21-2019 03:56 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  2. Losing at all bothers me, just like the others said above. That's a bad precedent and doesn't give any of us any optimism considering the last two years.

If I were coach at this point, winning would be more important than getting "looks" at different lineups and schemes. I would want the looks, but not at the expense of the W.

You are trying to quickly and radically reverse the culture of the last two years (Coach McGrath has now explicitly stated that their goal is to win the CAA Championship this year). Losing for any reason to a D2 team is a bad way to go.
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(10-22-2019 06:18 AM)70shawk Wrote:  
(10-21-2019 03:56 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  2. Losing at all bothers me, just like the others said above. That's a bad precedent and doesn't give any of us any optimism considering the last two years.

If I were coach at this point, winning would be more important than getting "looks" at different lineups and schemes. I would want the looks, but not at the expense of the W.

You are trying to quickly and radically reverse the culture of the last two years (Coach McGrath has now explicitly stated that their goal is to win the CAA Championship this year). Losing for any reason to a D2 team is a bad way to go.

Yep. I 100% agree. This is his “put up or shutup” year. IMO, he’s officially on the hot seat.


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