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falconplucker
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RE: OL
I get it. The o-line has been lacking for a couple of years, but there are other reasons their sack total was so low. Ely was quick to get rid of the ball. He was very hard to sack. He had Cody Thompson and Alonzo Russell to throw to and a backfield of Hunt and Swanson. I thought the o-line was improving this year, but not after Saturday.
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10-13-2019 06:29 PM |
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(10-13-2019 06:29 PM)falconplucker Wrote: I get it. The o-line has been lacking for a couple of years, but there are other reasons their sack total was so low. Ely was quick to get rid of the ball. He was very hard to sack. He had Cody Thompson and Alonzo Russell to throw to and a backfield of Hunt and Swanson. I thought the o-line was improving this year, but not after Saturday.
Mitch has been able to make up for some of the OL's short comings. Carter Bradley needs better protection to succeed. Likewise the RB's need some blocks instead of getting hit in the backfield. Kareem a lot of times wouldn't get touched until he was 3-7 yards past scrimmage. Yesterday I saw too many Rocket OL getting up slow from getting put on their butts.
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10-13-2019 09:08 PM |
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Springboromark
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RE: OL
I don't have a lot of faith in Mitch with his accaracy or consistently not finding his receivers. Either his receivers are not running their routes correctly or Mitch is not having enough time to pass the ball, thereby he has to run for his life. Of course I love his running ability, whether pre-planned or escaping the rush. I wished Bradley would come into his own, I would expect more from a 4 star HS QB. Perhaps he was over rated and that is why top power 5 teams saw he prodbadly could not compete at that level. Why do I think that after this season, Bradley may transferred out. This is simply a hunch and I don't have any evidence to support that.
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10-13-2019 09:36 PM |
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RangerRocket
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Saturday was about as surreal as it gets, and not in a good way. Somehow the two teams traded places. Would make a good episode of the Twilight Zone.
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10-13-2019 11:10 PM |
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I wonder where our inside seam and crossing routes were Saturday? Those have been money in our wins?
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10-14-2019 12:53 AM |
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10-14-2019 05:12 AM |
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falconplucker
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(10-13-2019 09:36 PM)Springboromark Wrote: I don't have a lot of faith in Mitch with his accaracy or consistently not finding his receivers. Either his receivers are not running their routes correctly or Mitch is not having enough time to pass the ball, thereby he has to run for his life. Of course I love his running ability, whether pre-planned or escaping the rush. I wished Bradley would come into his own, I would expect more from a 4 star HS QB. Perhaps he was over rated and that is why top power 5 teams saw he prodbadly could not compete at that level. Why do I think that after this season, Bradley may transferred out. This is simply a hunch and I don't have any evidence to support that.
(10-14-2019 12:53 AM)rocket 51 Wrote: I wonder where our inside seam and crossing routes were Saturday? Those have been money in our wins?
I've had the same thoughts about Bradley. I'm wondering if he will head to the "transfer portal" also. He certainly has a rocket arm, but I've been waiting to see the rest of his game click. He certainly is not a runner and the lack of blocking has not helped, but......
The crossing routes have been missing. They have not bee there much at all this season.
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10-14-2019 05:15 AM |
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The OL has seemed to regress a little bit every year under Hallett, I am not impressed.
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10-14-2019 06:43 AM |
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(10-13-2019 09:36 PM)Springboromark Wrote: I don't have a lot of faith in Mitch with his accaracy or consistently not finding his receivers. Either his receivers are not running their routes correctly or Mitch is not having enough time to pass the ball, thereby he has to run for his life. Of course I love his running ability, whether pre-planned or escaping the rush. I wished Bradley would come into his own, I would expect more from a 4 star HS QB. Perhaps he was over rated and that is why top power 5 teams saw he prodbadly could not compete at that level. Why do I think that after this season, Bradley may transferred out. This is simply a hunch and I don't have any evidence to support that.
Mitch was 17-20 Saturday. I have not been impressed with what I have seen from Bradley, although a very small sample size.
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10-14-2019 06:46 AM |
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Bradley is still a freshman. He'd thrown a total of 34 passes in small parts of 2 seasons. As noted, this year he is playing behind an OL that has not proven itself. It's way too soon to make any conclusions about how he will turn out.
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10-14-2019 07:10 AM |
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(10-14-2019 07:10 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote: Bradley is still a freshman. He'd thrown a total of 34 passes in small parts of 2 seasons. As noted, this year he is playing behind an OL that has not proven itself. It's way too soon to make any conclusions about how he will turn out.
Absolutely . I think Bradley has the potential to tear the MAC apart. Needs an OL. I think UT could use a couple of 6'4"-6'5" WR's. Also a big 240+ lbs RB for short yardage.
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10-14-2019 10:53 AM |
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QB, OL and WR were concerns I had coming into the season, you only score 7 points against what has been this season a BAD defense and your concerns are highlighted, play calling and coaching on offense side of ball also deserving of blame, but you gotta have the players and skills, lack of experience is a huge issue there as well, which can only improve, but coming into the season it was clear to me that even with a top running attack, not all the pieces were in place on offense, certainly not to degree we have seen in recent years.
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10-14-2019 11:04 AM |
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(10-14-2019 10:53 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [quote='northcoastRocket' pid='16370908' dateline='1571055017']
Bradley is still a freshman. He'd thrown a total of 34 passes in small parts of 2 seasons. As noted, this year he is playing behind an OL that has not proven itself. It's way too soon to make any conclusions about how he will turn out.
Absolutely . I think Bradley has the potential to tear the MAC apart. Needs an OL. I think UT could use a couple of 6'4"-6'5" WR's. Also a big 240+ lbs RB for short yardage.
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How about the I formation? a 235-240 pound Fullback leading the way for Koback.
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10-15-2019 11:26 AM |
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(10-14-2019 11:04 AM)PaulJ Wrote: QB, OL and WR were concerns I had coming into the season, you only score 7 points against what has been this season a BAD defense and your concerns are highlighted, play calling and coaching on offense side of ball also deserving of blame, but you gotta have the players and skills, lack of experience is a huge issue there as well, which can only improve, but coming into the season it was clear to me that even with a top running attack, not all the pieces were in place on offense, certainly not to degree we have seen in recent years.
Missing your starting center surely doesn't help much.
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10-15-2019 11:28 AM |
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(10-15-2019 11:28 AM)Springboromark Wrote: (10-14-2019 11:04 AM)PaulJ Wrote: QB, OL and WR were concerns I had coming into the season, you only score 7 points against what has been this season a BAD defense and your concerns are highlighted, play calling and coaching on offense side of ball also deserving of blame, but you gotta have the players and skills, lack of experience is a huge issue there as well, which can only improve, but coming into the season it was clear to me that even with a top running attack, not all the pieces were in place on offense, certainly not to degree we have seen in recent years.
Missing your starting center surely doesn't help much.
agreed, but OL concerns go deeper and lack of experience at WR doesn't help
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10-15-2019 12:08 PM |
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(10-15-2019 12:08 PM)PaulJ Wrote: (10-15-2019 11:28 AM)Springboromark Wrote: (10-14-2019 11:04 AM)PaulJ Wrote: QB, OL and WR were concerns I had coming into the season, you only score 7 points against what has been this season a BAD defense and your concerns are highlighted, play calling and coaching on offense side of ball also deserving of blame, but you gotta have the players and skills, lack of experience is a huge issue there as well, which can only improve, but coming into the season it was clear to me that even with a top running attack, not all the pieces were in place on offense, certainly not to degree we have seen in recent years.
Missing your starting center surely doesn't help much.
agreed, but OL concerns go deeper and lack of experience at WR doesn't help
I’m still trying to figure out how the cupboard got this bare at WR. With the prolific passing attack we’d had & the success of Thompson, Johnson and Johnson I would have thought we’d have recruited at least a couple of guys who would be challenging for playing time—similar to what we’ve had a RB, where there seems to be an abundance of talent with fewer snaps available.
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10-15-2019 12:39 PM |
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(10-15-2019 12:39 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote: (10-15-2019 12:08 PM)PaulJ Wrote: (10-15-2019 11:28 AM)Springboromark Wrote: (10-14-2019 11:04 AM)PaulJ Wrote: QB, OL and WR were concerns I had coming into the season, you only score 7 points against what has been this season a BAD defense and your concerns are highlighted, play calling and coaching on offense side of ball also deserving of blame, but you gotta have the players and skills, lack of experience is a huge issue there as well, which can only improve, but coming into the season it was clear to me that even with a top running attack, not all the pieces were in place on offense, certainly not to degree we have seen in recent years.
Missing your starting center surely doesn't help much.
agreed, but OL concerns go deeper and lack of experience at WR doesn't help
I’m still trying to figure out how the cupboard got this bare at WR. With the prolific passing attack we’d had & the success of Thompson, Johnson and Johnson I would have thought we’d have recruited at least a couple of guys who would be challenging for playing time—similar to what we’ve had a RB, where there seems to be an abundance of talent with fewer snaps available.
We have 16 WR on the roster. Add 7 tight ends, and we should be able to find someone to throw to.
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10-15-2019 02:16 PM |
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(10-15-2019 02:16 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote: (10-15-2019 12:39 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote: (10-15-2019 12:08 PM)PaulJ Wrote: (10-15-2019 11:28 AM)Springboromark Wrote: (10-14-2019 11:04 AM)PaulJ Wrote: QB, OL and WR were concerns I had coming into the season, you only score 7 points against what has been this season a BAD defense and your concerns are highlighted, play calling and coaching on offense side of ball also deserving of blame, but you gotta have the players and skills, lack of experience is a huge issue there as well, which can only improve, but coming into the season it was clear to me that even with a top running attack, not all the pieces were in place on offense, certainly not to degree we have seen in recent years.
Missing your starting center surely doesn't help much.
agreed, but OL concerns go deeper and lack of experience at WR doesn't help
I’m still trying to figure out how the cupboard got this bare at WR. With the prolific passing attack we’d had & the success of Thompson, Johnson and Johnson I would have thought we’d have recruited at least a couple of guys who would be challenging for playing time—similar to what we’ve had a RB, where there seems to be an abundance of talent with fewer snaps available.
We have 16 WR on the roster. Add 7 tight ends, and we should be able to find someone to throw to.
Looking at an updated stat sheet...The top 3 receivers (Phillips, Mitchell & McKinley-Lewis) have 50 catches combined. The 2 TEs have 15 combined. All RBs combined have 17 catches. Only 2 other WRs have caught a ball so far this season: Maddox (6 catches) and Kovacs (3 catches). Maddox has been IMO a pleasant surprise contributor. But I had hoped to see some other RS or true freshmen making a bit of a splash at WR by now. On the positive side, those top 3 receivers are averaging between 10 and 22 yards a catch, so these aren't 5 yard completions.
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10-15-2019 02:47 PM |
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