(10-13-2019 11:52 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  W&M already licking thier chops on a perfect trap game next week. They're wanting revenge for 2 years ago when we stunk up homecoming. Can't wait to hear the grumble when that new semi truck pulls up and they have to vacate 10 parking places for our rolling JMU billboard. They've already asked we not bring it right after we first showed it on this board.

LOL, seriously? Would they do the same if NDSU or an FBS team came to town? "Please downsize your equipment truck, pretty please? It makes us feel insecure." Hope they got a roar of laughter in response. That truck does make a good advertisement and should go on occasional tours, maybe even for recruiting. FBS schools have been known to park one outside a prize recruit's house for a day or two. I'm thinking roll it on up to Good Counsel once a year for show and tell.

(10-13-2019 12:37 PM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote:  Now that we're past Nova, I was most concerned about Flacco and Towson, though the stats are interesting. Flacco is only at 56.7% (DiNucci is at 70.4%) with only 8 TDs. We have yet to face a truly potent passing attack, and it's obvious at this point that pass defense is our soft underbelly.

The kid at URI, Priore, has some pretty good numbers, and is leading the conference in total offense, so, surprisingly, maybe URI is our biggest remaining challenge.

https://static.caasports.com/custompages...nfldrs.htm

As of today, I would actually rank URI as our weakest remaining opponent. Yes, Priore is passing well, but he's 35th in pass efficiency. 63.2% completion. 13 Pass TDs, 3 Ints. 2,003 yards.

However, URI is 55th in Total O. 400.8 ypg. 68th Scoring O, 25.8 ppg.
5th Passing O, 333.8 ypg 13 TDs. 122nd Rushing O, 67 ypg 4 TDs.

You couldn't find a more one dimensional offense if you tried. There's a reason they've only won one game so far and all we would have to do defensively is the passing equivalent of stacking the box. Leave all LBs, CBs and Safeties back in pass coverage in the short and medium range. They have literally no running attack, whatosever.

(10-13-2019 11:56 AM)Potomac Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 11:04 AM)formerjmusprinter84 Wrote:  I think the Dukes will win out.

Not sure that if we win out and SDSU wins out (and beats the current #1 team, NDSU) that JMU will get the #1 seed. If SDSU beats the Bison, they may leapfrog JMU to #1 with JMU being the #2 seed.

Yes I see SDSU leapfrogging JMU in the rankings if they beat NDSU. The problem is some may make a SOS argument that JMU should be 3 behind NDSU. We’d almost need NDSU to drop 2 to guarantee 3 or worse seed and that won’t happen.

I do agree that there’s virtually no scenario in which the regular season will end 1. JMU 2. SDSU 3. NDSU.

That being said, if SDSU beats NDSU and all three teams win out otherwise, I think JMU’s 0 FCS losses will easily trump SOS for the #2 seed. Beating #5 VU and general strength of CAA will suffice to to avoid any Soft Houston-type issues.

(10-13-2019 04:25 PM)bjk3047 Wrote:  I do agree that there’s virtually no scenario in which the regular season will end 1. JMU 2. SDSU 3. NDSU.

That being said, if SDSU beats NDSU and all three teams win out otherwise, I think JMU’s 0 FCS losses will easily trump SOS for the #2 seed. Beating #5 VU and general strength of CAA will suffice to to avoid any Soft Houston-type issues.

Although we want a scenario where NDSU loses and as much as possible to show they're not this unstoppable machine, at what point do we almost root against SDSU?

SDSU winning out and NDSU winning out except for a SDSU loss could make it VERY interesting come seeding time. It'll be an argument for who is 2 and 3 between us and NDSU. I don't trust the committee. I'm going to say now that if this scenario works its way out, we will be hosed with a 3 seed and go to Fargo in the semis.

We will see.

I will agree with that. With a SDSU win, I don’t the risk of being hosed with #3 seed is worth the potential reward.

In that scenario, I'd be really surprised if NDSU stays ahead of us and also if SDSU doesn't jump us. Maybe if there are some big collapses the rest of the way to hurt someone's SOS, but I'd expect SDSU over NDSU means the Bison road to Frisco goes through Harrisonburg if none of the three drop any other game.

(10-13-2019 05:32 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  In that scenario, I'd be really surprised if NDSU stays ahead of us and also if SDSU doesn't jump us. Maybe if there are some big collapses the rest of the way to hurt someone's SOS, but I'd expect SDSU over NDSU means the Bison road to Frisco goes through Harrisonburg if none of the three drop any other game.

I'm still not sold on SDSU, I see them losing to NDSU and one of either ISU or UNI. Wouldnt mind another 10 turnover game at bridgeforth this winter

(10-13-2019 05:38 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 05:32 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  In that scenario, I'd be really surprised if NDSU stays ahead of us and also if SDSU doesn't jump us. Maybe if there are some big collapses the rest of the way to hurt someone's SOS, but I'd expect SDSU over NDSU means the Bison road to Frisco goes through Harrisonburg if none of the three drop any other game.

I'm still not sold on SDSU, I see them losing to NDSU and one of either ISU or UNI. Wouldnt mind another 10 turnover game at bridgeforth this winter

Yeah they've had a couple slow starts against Southern Illinois and Youngstown State, but then they did manage to turn it on in both games. I'm not sure what to think of them, I do think it's NDSU's best chance to lose by far though. Should easily be NDSU's best regular season opponent, plus you just see crazy things in rivalry games sometimes. YSU could be tough coming off the SDSU game as well. But of course they lost to a team that NDSU just beat 46-14 so...

(10-13-2019 04:33 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 04:25 PM)bjk3047 Wrote:  I do agree that there’s virtually no scenario in which the regular season will end 1. JMU 2. SDSU 3. NDSU.

That being said, if SDSU beats NDSU and all three teams win out otherwise, I think JMU’s 0 FCS losses will easily trump SOS for the #2 seed. Beating #5 VU and general strength of CAA will suffice to to avoid any Soft Houston-type issues.

Although we want a scenario where NDSU loses and as much as possible to show they're not this unstoppable machine, at what point do we almost root against SDSU?

SDSU winning out and NDSU winning out except for a SDSU loss could make it VERY interesting come seeding time. It'll be an argument for who is 2 and 3 between us and NDSU. I don't trust the committee. I'm going to say now that if this scenario works its way out, we will be hosed with a 3 seed and go to Fargo in the semis.

We will see.

Not a chance in hell the loser of the NDSU/SDSU leapfrogs an undefeated JMU. Think the top 2, and possibly top 3, seeds will be undefeated (vs I-AA).

Also, current polling means nothing. There's a committee to make these decisions and they've shown over the years that their rankings don't correlate often with the national polls. The Dukes will be fine if they win out.

(10-13-2019 04:33 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 04:25 PM)bjk3047 Wrote:  I do agree that there’s virtually no scenario in which the regular season will end 1. JMU 2. SDSU 3. NDSU.

That being said, if SDSU beats NDSU and all three teams win out otherwise, I think JMU’s 0 FCS losses will easily trump SOS for the #2 seed. Beating #5 VU and general strength of CAA will suffice to to avoid any Soft Houston-type issues.

Although we want a scenario where NDSU loses and as much as possible to show they're not this unstoppable machine, at what point do we almost root against SDSU?

SDSU winning out and NDSU winning out except for a SDSU loss could make it VERY interesting come seeding time. It'll be an argument for who is 2 and 3 between us and NDSU. I don't trust the committee. I'm going to say now that if this scenario works its way out, we will be hosed with a 3 seed and go to Fargo in the semis.

We will see.

Yeah, the committee is going to hose us like they always do. But, I don't see how we don't get the 1 seed if we win out, considering we have the spent the entire season at #2. #1 gets beat, #2 moves up.

(10-13-2019 07:29 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 04:33 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 04:25 PM)bjk3047 Wrote:  I do agree that there’s virtually no scenario in which the regular season will end 1. JMU 2. SDSU 3. NDSU.

That being said, if SDSU beats NDSU and all three teams win out otherwise, I think JMU’s 0 FCS losses will easily trump SOS for the #2 seed. Beating #5 VU and general strength of CAA will suffice to to avoid any Soft Houston-type issues.

Although we want a scenario where NDSU loses and as much as possible to show they're not this unstoppable machine, at what point do we almost root against SDSU?

SDSU winning out and NDSU winning out except for a SDSU loss could make it VERY interesting come seeding time. It'll be an argument for who is 2 and 3 between us and NDSU. I don't trust the committee. I'm going to say now that if this scenario works its way out, we will be hosed with a 3 seed and go to Fargo in the semis.

We will see.

Not a chance in hell the loser of the NDSU/SDSU leapfrogs an undefeated JMU.

I agree!

(10-13-2019 08:19 PM)Purple Wrote:  Yeah, the committee is going to hose us like they always do. But, I don't see how we don't get the 1 seed if we win out, considering we have the spent the entire season at #2. #1 gets beat, #2 moves up.

If SDSU is good enough to beat NDSU and also wins out, they will be #1 without question. Deservedly so. SOS matters. Beating THE team matters. The committee will recognize that. You can BOOK IT.

Well that'd make more sense, although it still wouldn't be at all out of the question for an unbeaten #3 to jump #2 if they beat #1, if it were like the FBS playoffs where the actual playoff rankings are released for several weeks before the final selection. We haven't been #2 all season for the playoff committee though, we've been #2 all season for a couple polls that ultimately don't mean a whole lot. If we finish the season without an FCS loss and our top win is Villanova followed by Stony Brook or Towson and SDSU finishes the season without an FCS loss and their top win is NDSU followed by Illinois State, YSU, and UNI then I don't see much of anyone unbiased giving us #1 over SDSU.

My bet is this all ends up a moot point though.

(10-14-2019 12:44 AM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  Well that'd make more sense, although it still wouldn't be at all out of the question for an unbeaten #3 to jump #2 if they beat #1, if it were like the FBS playoffs where the actual playoff rankings are released for several weeks before the final selection. We haven't been #2 all season for the playoff committee though, we've been #2 all season for a couple polls that ultimately don't mean a whole lot. If we finish the season without an FCS loss and our top win is Villanova followed by Stony Brook or Towson and SDSU finishes the season without an FCS loss and their top win is NDSU followed by Illinois State, YSU, and UNI then I don't see much of anyone unbiased giving us #1 over SDSU.

My bet is this all ends up a moot point though.

They do release the committee ranking poll several weeks before. It can change quite a bit though, and they don't do slot voting per say. At the end of the day, its a bunch of AD's representing their conference free to vote however they choose, with an explanation released afterward about why they feel it was correct.

Personally think politics can weigh in just as much as who is truly better or SOS. There are some "guidelines" they follow procedurally, but each AD can vote as they feel best. IMO, it was more than luck that UNH had such a streak of playoff appearances, given their AD was on and chaired the committee a long time.

If some of you guys really believe we're in the top 2 of best FCS teams then you really live behind a purple tinted glass wall. I do believe we can get there, but SBU and Nova showed me we're not there.

Do either NDSU or SDSU have a weakness as glaring as we have? I don't see it.

One single Pick 6 turned Saturday's game. Without that one play "we lose". Granted a great offensive play followed, but without one fortunate timely interception we are no longer in the top 5. That game was just about to be closed out in Nova's favor. Has either the Beeffaloe or the Bugs Bunny team had a game that one play made such a significant difference in the outcome?

Our offense is doing it's job with points, but I'm a little confused why we don't pound the opposition into the ground with our running game. IMHO: we can eat up a lot more of the clock and do our defense a favor by hanging onto the ball using our strongest asset, our RB's. I love four yard gains play after play after play.

(10-14-2019 06:28 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  If some of you guys really believe we're in the top 2 of best FCS teams then you really live behind a purple tinted glass wall. I do believe we can get there, but SBU and Nova showed me we're not there.

Do either NDSU or SDSU have a weakness as glaring as we have? I don't see it.

One single Pick 6 turned Saturday's game. Without that one play "we lose". Granted a great offensive play followed, but without one fortunate timely interception we are no longer in the top 5. That game was just about to be closed out in Nova's favor. Has either the Beeffaloe or the Bugs Bunny team had a game that one play made such a significant difference in the outcome?

Our offense is doing it's job with points, but I'm a little confused why we don't pound the opposition into the ground with our running game. IMHO: we can eat up a lot more of the clock and do our defense a favor by hanging onto the ball using our strongest asset, our RB's. I love four yard gains play after play after play.

SDSU hasnt played a complete game yet. They were getting dominated by YSU last week and were losing the week prior at the half to SIU. Credit to them for making halftime adjustments but that SIU game should not have even been close and YSU's offense is typically non existent. I'm just not all in on SDSU yet

imo Montana looks to be the real deal, we'll see after this week against a very good sac st team

I think you guys are also overlooking Weber State. Their only two losses are to FBS teams in close games (granted neither team they played is very good) and they appear to again have a stout defense and have played better as the season as gone on. With a win over UNI and games remaining against UCD, Montana, and Sac State they will be in the running for a high seed if they can win those games.

If SDSU beats NDSU we are in huge trouble. I don't watch a ton of FCS outside of JMU but NDSU is dominating everyone again. They appear to be as good as they always are. I know there was a ton of speculation about this being their down year but I am not seeing that. So if SDSU comes in and beats them it would mean that SDSU is a ridiculously good team. I hope I am wrong but I think NDSU beats SB and Vill pretty handily right now and we struggled with both the last thing I want to see is a second team just as good as NDSU and possibly better than them because that means we have an even tougher road. I'm hoping we get the defense figured out quickly but based on how we are playing right now I don't think we're near the level NDSU is playing at and hopefully SDSU is not at that same level as well.

(10-14-2019 08:16 AM)doubleduke2016 Wrote:  If SDSU beats NDSU we are in huge trouble. I don't watch a ton of FCS outside of JMU but NDSU is dominating everyone again. They appear to be as good as they always are. I know there was a ton of speculation about this being their down year but I am not seeing that. So if SDSU comes in and beats them it would mean that SDSU is a ridiculously good team. I hope I am wrong but I think NDSU beats SB and Vill pretty handily right now and we struggled with both the last thing I want to see is a second team just as good as NDSU and possibly better than them because that means we have an even tougher road. I'm hoping we get the defense figured out quickly but based on how we are playing right now I don't think we're near the level NDSU is playing at and hopefully SDSU is not at that same level as well.

I watched much of the SDSU/YSU game. YSU was up 21-9 midway through the 3rd. SDSU scored 4 TDs in the last 15:40 of the game with the last TD in the last minute of the game to put it away. The game was very similar to ours in that it took a huge 4th quarter to pull the game out.