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(10-14-2019 09:08 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 07:15 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Defense held BYU & WMU under their scoring averages. Kentucky's offense has imploded since they lost their starting QB, as the replacement has been terrible. CSU's WRs which killed us missed 2 games both with injuries, and they benched their stud RB for one of those games due to fumble problems. Take away those 2 games and CSU is averaging in the mid-to-hi 30s.

Anyway, defense was not even remotely the problem with the BG game. Yeah they game up a lot of yards and BG scored a few more points than they have been, but that would not have even been an issue if the other parts of the team played a decent game.

UT left 13 points on the field with 2 missed FGs and a fumble inside the 10. The running game that was averaging 260 yards per game, suddenly could barely put up 100. The blocked punt was a coaching blunder IMO, as they left the speed outside rusher completely unblocked - even I saw that pre-snap and said oh-oh to myself. Let's not even talk about the two screwed up KRs and the 5-16 3rd down conversion percentage. The only good stat on the whole board was 2 penalties for 10 yards.

Sadly the defense was the best of the 3 phases in this game. I would give the Offense an F, Special teams an F, Coaching ( preparation and adjustments) an F, and the Defense a D+. I think the obvious concern with the D is that they have consistent problems in the same areas year after year, especially defending the QB run or keeping outside leverage on the out side run, gap control etc.. Linebacking play has been very poor, though I think a bit better this year. I think our secondary is our only real strength this year on D. Need to scheme better in all areas of the run game. It won't happen though because it is apparent the Defensive staff obviously has not done any homework in every offseason fixing the problem.

Your offense scores 7 points-it's pretty clear where the fault lies (hint: its not the defense giving up 20)
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(10-14-2019 10:12 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 09:08 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 07:15 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Defense held BYU & WMU under their scoring averages. Kentucky's offense has imploded since they lost their starting QB, as the replacement has been terrible. CSU's WRs which killed us missed 2 games both with injuries, and they benched their stud RB for one of those games due to fumble problems. Take away those 2 games and CSU is averaging in the mid-to-hi 30s.

Anyway, defense was not even remotely the problem with the BG game. Yeah they game up a lot of yards and BG scored a few more points than they have been, but that would not have even been an issue if the other parts of the team played a decent game.

UT left 13 points on the field with 2 missed FGs and a fumble inside the 10. The running game that was averaging 260 yards per game, suddenly could barely put up 100. The blocked punt was a coaching blunder IMO, as they left the speed outside rusher completely unblocked - even I saw that pre-snap and said oh-oh to myself. Let's not even talk about the two screwed up KRs and the 5-16 3rd down conversion percentage. The only good stat on the whole board was 2 penalties for 10 yards.

Sadly the defense was the best of the 3 phases in this game. I would give the Offense an F, Special teams an F, Coaching ( preparation and adjustments) an F, and the Defense a D+. I think the obvious concern with the D is that they have consistent problems in the same areas year after year, especially defending the QB run or keeping outside leverage on the out side run, gap control etc.. Linebacking play has been very poor, though I think a bit better this year. I think our secondary is our only real strength this year on D. Need to scheme better in all areas of the run game. It won't happen though because it is apparent the Defensive staff obviously has not done any homework in every offseason fixing the problem.

Your offense scores 7 points-it's pretty clear where the fault lies (hint: its not the defense giving up 20)

D doesn’t get a pass on this one. Too many missed tackles resulting in big plays and scores and no adjustments to what BG was doing.

Offense was inept, largely due to poor line play. I watched my recording of the game again and stopped counting how many times either tackle whiffed on a block. But they weren’t the only weaknesses on the line.

And special teams play was largely a drunken disaster.

Plenty of blame to go around, which usually means coaching was the problem. Has to be—after all, we’ve had the #1 or #2 recruiting class in the MAC forever, so the natural talent should be there.
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(10-14-2019 10:12 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 09:08 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 07:15 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Defense held BYU & WMU under their scoring averages. Kentucky's offense has imploded since they lost their starting QB, as the replacement has been terrible. CSU's WRs which killed us missed 2 games both with injuries, and they benched their stud RB for one of those games due to fumble problems. Take away those 2 games and CSU is averaging in the mid-to-hi 30s.

Anyway, defense was not even remotely the problem with the BG game. Yeah they game up a lot of yards and BG scored a few more points than they have been, but that would not have even been an issue if the other parts of the team played a decent game.

UT left 13 points on the field with 2 missed FGs and a fumble inside the 10. The running game that was averaging 260 yards per game, suddenly could barely put up 100. The blocked punt was a coaching blunder IMO, as they left the speed outside rusher completely unblocked - even I saw that pre-snap and said oh-oh to myself. Let's not even talk about the two screwed up KRs and the 5-16 3rd down conversion percentage. The only good stat on the whole board was 2 penalties for 10 yards.

Sadly the defense was the best of the 3 phases in this game. I would give the Offense an F, Special teams an F, Coaching ( preparation and adjustments) an F, and the Defense a D+. I think the obvious concern with the D is that they have consistent problems in the same areas year after year, especially defending the QB run or keeping outside leverage on the out side run, gap control etc.. Linebacking play has been very poor, though I think a bit better this year. I think our secondary is our only real strength this year on D. Need to scheme better in all areas of the run game. It won't happen though because it is apparent the Defensive staff obviously has not done any homework in every offseason fixing the problem.

Your offense scores 7 points-it's pretty clear where the fault lies (hint: its not the defense giving up 20)

Like I said, D was the best of the three phases. Scoring D was good. No question they kept us in the game. We lose by 40 otherwise. Actually, I think special teams was the ultimate source of the loss.
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(10-14-2019 10:27 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 10:12 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 09:08 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 07:15 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Defense held BYU & WMU under their scoring averages. Kentucky's offense has imploded since they lost their starting QB, as the replacement has been terrible. CSU's WRs which killed us missed 2 games both with injuries, and they benched their stud RB for one of those games due to fumble problems. Take away those 2 games and CSU is averaging in the mid-to-hi 30s.

Anyway, defense was not even remotely the problem with the BG game. Yeah they game up a lot of yards and BG scored a few more points than they have been, but that would not have even been an issue if the other parts of the team played a decent game.

UT left 13 points on the field with 2 missed FGs and a fumble inside the 10. The running game that was averaging 260 yards per game, suddenly could barely put up 100. The blocked punt was a coaching blunder IMO, as they left the speed outside rusher completely unblocked - even I saw that pre-snap and said oh-oh to myself. Let's not even talk about the two screwed up KRs and the 5-16 3rd down conversion percentage. The only good stat on the whole board was 2 penalties for 10 yards.

Sadly the defense was the best of the 3 phases in this game. I would give the Offense an F, Special teams an F, Coaching ( preparation and adjustments) an F, and the Defense a D+. I think the obvious concern with the D is that they have consistent problems in the same areas year after year, especially defending the QB run or keeping outside leverage on the out side run, gap control etc.. Linebacking play has been very poor, though I think a bit better this year. I think our secondary is our only real strength this year on D. Need to scheme better in all areas of the run game. It won't happen though because it is apparent the Defensive staff obviously has not done any homework in every offseason fixing the problem.

Your offense scores 7 points-it's pretty clear where the fault lies (hint: its not the defense giving up 20)

D doesn’t get a pass on this one. Too many missed tackles resulting in big plays and scores and no adjustments to what BG was doing.

Offense was inept, largely due to poor line play. I watched my recording of the game again and stopped counting how many times either tackle whiffed on a block. But they weren’t the only weaknesses on the line.

And special teams play was largely a drunken disaster.

Plenty of blame to go around, which usually means coaching was the problem. Has to be—after all, we’ve had the #1 or #2 recruiting class in the MAC forever, so the natural talent should be there.

Don't recruit OL on the same level as skill positions.
Don't get enough roadgraders.
I hate seeing Rocket, sometimes the biggest players
get beat, miss the blitz, get put on their butts.
It's been a few years since I've heard a UT OL described as "mean/nasty".
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(10-14-2019 10:27 AM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 10:12 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(10-14-2019 09:08 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 07:15 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Defense held BYU & WMU under their scoring averages. Kentucky's offense has imploded since they lost their starting QB, as the replacement has been terrible. CSU's WRs which killed us missed 2 games both with injuries, and they benched their stud RB for one of those games due to fumble problems. Take away those 2 games and CSU is averaging in the mid-to-hi 30s.

Anyway, defense was not even remotely the problem with the BG game. Yeah they game up a lot of yards and BG scored a few more points than they have been, but that would not have even been an issue if the other parts of the team played a decent game.

UT left 13 points on the field with 2 missed FGs and a fumble inside the 10. The running game that was averaging 260 yards per game, suddenly could barely put up 100. The blocked punt was a coaching blunder IMO, as they left the speed outside rusher completely unblocked - even I saw that pre-snap and said oh-oh to myself. Let's not even talk about the two screwed up KRs and the 5-16 3rd down conversion percentage. The only good stat on the whole board was 2 penalties for 10 yards.

Sadly the defense was the best of the 3 phases in this game. I would give the Offense an F, Special teams an F, Coaching ( preparation and adjustments) an F, and the Defense a D+. I think the obvious concern with the D is that they have consistent problems in the same areas year after year, especially defending the QB run or keeping outside leverage on the out side run, gap control etc.. Linebacking play has been very poor, though I think a bit better this year. I think our secondary is our only real strength this year on D. Need to scheme better in all areas of the run game. It won't happen though because it is apparent the Defensive staff obviously has not done any homework in every offseason fixing the problem.

Your offense scores 7 points-it's pretty clear where the fault lies (hint: its not the defense giving up 20)

D doesn’t get a pass on this one. Too many missed tackles resulting in big plays and scores and no adjustments to what BG was doing.

Offense was inept, largely due to poor line play. I watched my recording of the game again and stopped counting how many times either tackle whiffed on a block. But they weren’t the only weaknesses on the line.

And special teams play was largely a drunken disaster.

Plenty of blame to go around, which usually means coaching was the problem. Has to be—after all, we’ve had the #1 or #2 recruiting class in the MAC forever, so the natural talent should be there.

Grading high school players and recruiting class is an art in guess work, not a predictive science-especially with 3 and 2 star recruits that end up in the MAC. Does not excuse the concerns over coaching, game prep, play calling, in game coaching and adjustments, but all to often HS players are over-graded (and as are entire classes) .
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(10-14-2019 09:08 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 07:15 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Defense held BYU & WMU under their scoring averages. Kentucky's offense has imploded since they lost their starting QB, as the replacement has been terrible. CSU's WRs which killed us missed 2 games both with injuries, and they benched their stud RB for one of those games due to fumble problems. Take away those 2 games and CSU is averaging in the mid-to-hi 30s.

Anyway, defense was not even remotely the problem with the BG game. Yeah they game up a lot of yards and BG scored a few more points than they have been, but that would not have even been an issue if the other parts of the team played a decent game.

UT left 13 points on the field with 2 missed FGs and a fumble inside the 10. The running game that was averaging 260 yards per game, suddenly could barely put up 100. The blocked punt was a coaching blunder IMO, as they left the speed outside rusher completely unblocked - even I saw that pre-snap and said oh-oh to myself. Let's not even talk about the two screwed up KRs and the 5-16 3rd down conversion percentage. The only good stat on the whole board was 2 penalties for 10 yards.

Sadly the defense was the best of the 3 phases in this game. I would give the Offense an F, Special teams an F, Coaching ( preparation and adjustments) an F, and the Defense a D+. I think the obvious concern with the D is that they have consistent problems in the same areas year after year, especially defending the QB run or keeping outside leverage on the out side run, gap control etc.. Linebacking play has been very poor, though I think a bit better this year. I think our secondary is our only real strength this year on D. Need to scheme better in all areas of the run game. It won't happen though because it is apparent the Defensive staff obviously has not done any homework in every offseason fixing the problem.

despite the two big plays that resulted in 10 points and the QB getting loose on scrambles and designed QB runs, the defense played good enough to win. I've always said the number is 20 or less points to win on the defense side of the ball. Especially, with the supposed "high powered" Toledo offense.

I'd actually give the Defense a B- or C+ for the game because of the situations they were put in by the offense and special teams.
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