I assume LSU and Florida are bowl eligible.

Anyone else? We could do a running list here.

Without double checking I can say Penn State, Ohio State and SMU.

So far-
Wisconsin, Ohio St, Alabama, SMU, Clemson, Oklahoma, Baylor, Penn St, LSU, and Minnesota.

Florida isn't(they have 2 FCS wins)

What's the target this year- 78 again?

Boise on their way up big at halftime over Hawaii.

on the other side of things, New Mexico St because 2019's 1st casualty as they are now 0-7. Congrats Aggies!

(10-12-2019 11:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  So far-
Wisconsin, Ohio St, Alabama, SMU, Clemson, Oklahoma, Baylor, Penn St, LSU, and Minnesota.

Florida isn't(they have 2 FCS wins)

What's the target this year- 78 again?

Boise on their way up big at halftime over Hawaii.

Damn, the B1G already has 4 bowl teams.

(10-12-2019 11:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 11:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  So far-
Wisconsin, Ohio St, Alabama, SMU, Clemson, Oklahoma, Baylor, Penn St, LSU, and Minnesota.

Florida isn't(they have 2 FCS wins)

What's the target this year- 78 again?

Boise on their way up big at halftime over Hawaii.

Damn, the B1G already has 4 bowl teams.

true, but they also have 4 teams with 4 or 5 losses. And all 4 of those are big underdogs next weekend.

(10-12-2019 11:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 11:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-12-2019 11:34 PM)stever20 Wrote:  So far-
Wisconsin, Ohio St, Alabama, SMU, Clemson, Oklahoma, Baylor, Penn St, LSU, and Minnesota.

Florida isn't(they have 2 FCS wins)

What's the target this year- 78 again?

Boise on their way up big at halftime over Hawaii.

Damn, the B1G already has 4 bowl teams.

true, but they also have 4 teams with 4 or 5 losses. And all 4 of those are big underdogs next weekend.

SEC is the same - 4 4 or 5 loss teams, all big underdogs next week

BYU is 2-4 with Boise State on deck. The Blue Cougars are on the edge for making it to the Hawaii Bowl.

(10-13-2019 09:15 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  BYU is 2-4 with Boise State on deck. The Blue Cougars are on the edge for making it to the Hawaii Bowl.

Looking at BYU’s schedule I don’t think they make it.
They play #13 ranked Boise St, @ rival Utah St and @ 5-1 San Diego St still. That’s 3 probable loses.

(10-13-2019 06:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 09:15 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  BYU is 2-4 with Boise State on deck. The Blue Cougars are on the edge for making it to the Hawaii Bowl.

Looking at BYU’s schedule I don’t think they make it.
They play #13 ranked Boise St, @ rival Utah St and @ 5-1 San Diego St still. That’s 3 probable loses.

I actually think BYU has about a 50% chance to win 1 of those 3 games. But each game, individually, looks very tough. I guess if I were giving an over/under for BYU’s # of wins right now, I’d say 5.5. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.

(10-13-2019 09:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 06:29 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(10-13-2019 09:15 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  BYU is 2-4 with Boise State on deck. The Blue Cougars are on the edge for making it to the Hawaii Bowl.

Looking at BYU’s schedule I don’t think they make it.
They play #13 ranked Boise St, @ rival Utah St and @ 5-1 San Diego St still. That’s 3 probable loses.

I actually think BYU has about a 50% chance to win 1 of those 3 games. But each game, individually, looks very tough. I guess if I were giving an over/under for BYU’s # of wins right now, I’d say 5.5. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.

I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

(10-14-2019 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

Could very well be the case.

I don’t know when it will happen, but at some point the powers-that-be in Deseret are going to have to sit down and take a hard, cold look at BYU’s experiment with Independence and ask themselves if this is really a good idea, or not. They went 10-3 the first year (2011) and are a combined 55-42 since then. Who knows, maybe that performance-level is all they really want or need from their football program.

(10-14-2019 01:12 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

Could very well be the case.

I don’t know when it will happen, but at some point the powers-that-be in Deseret are going to have to sit down and take a hard, cold look at BYU’s experiment with Independence and ask themselves if this is really a good idea, or not. They went 10-3 the first year (2011) and are a combined 55-42 since then. Who knows, maybe that performance-level is all they really want or need from their football program.

I don't know about the dollars, but in a "national presence" sense, BYU has clearly been diminished over the past 10 years. For decades, from the 1980s - 2000s, BYU was clearly regarded as a "power level" program and respected as such by almost everyone. And they had a brand name to match.

BYU still has some of that, but Boise has almost taken their place in that regard. I'm not sure what the answer is, but they are withering on the vine, not just in terms of winning, but where it matters most, as a brand.

(10-14-2019 02:14 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:12 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

Could very well be the case.

I don’t know when it will happen, but at some point the powers-that-be in Deseret are going to have to sit down and take a hard, cold look at BYU’s experiment with Independence and ask themselves if this is really a good idea, or not. They went 10-3 the first year (2011) and are a combined 55-42 since then. Who knows, maybe that performance-level is all they really want or need from their football program.

I don't know about the dollars, but in a "national presence" sense, BYU has clearly been diminished over the past 10 years. For decades, from the 1980s - 2000s, BYU was clearly regarded as a "power level" program and respected as such by almost everyone. And they had a brand name to match.

BYU still has some of that, but Boise has almost taken their place in that regard. I'm not sure what the answer is, but they are withering on the vine, not just in terms of winning, but where it matters most, as a brand.

Their brand is withering since they went Indy.

(10-14-2019 04:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 02:14 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:12 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

Could very well be the case.

I don’t know when it will happen, but at some point the powers-that-be in Deseret are going to have to sit down and take a hard, cold look at BYU’s experiment with Independence and ask themselves if this is really a good idea, or not. They went 10-3 the first year (2011) and are a combined 55-42 since then. Who knows, maybe that performance-level is all they really want or need from their football program.

I don't know about the dollars, but in a "national presence" sense, BYU has clearly been diminished over the past 10 years. For decades, from the 1980s - 2000s, BYU was clearly regarded as a "power level" program and respected as such by almost everyone. And they had a brand name to match.

BYU still has some of that, but Boise has almost taken their place in that regard. I'm not sure what the answer is, but they are withering on the vine, not just in terms of winning, but where it matters most, as a brand.

Their brand is withering since they went Indy.

It sure looks that way.

(10-14-2019 04:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 02:14 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:12 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

Could very well be the case.

I don’t know when it will happen, but at some point the powers-that-be in Deseret are going to have to sit down and take a hard, cold look at BYU’s experiment with Independence and ask themselves if this is really a good idea, or not. They went 10-3 the first year (2011) and are a combined 55-42 since then. Who knows, maybe that performance-level is all they really want or need from their football program.

I don't know about the dollars, but in a "national presence" sense, BYU has clearly been diminished over the past 10 years. For decades, from the 1980s - 2000s, BYU was clearly regarded as a "power level" program and respected as such by almost everyone. And they had a brand name to match.

BYU still has some of that, but Boise has almost taken their place in that regard. I'm not sure what the answer is, but they are withering on the vine, not just in terms of winning, but where it matters most, as a brand.

Their brand is withering since they went Indy.

They belong in the MWC. Their pride is driving this.

(10-14-2019 07:02 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 04:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 02:14 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:12 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

Could very well be the case.

I don’t know when it will happen, but at some point the powers-that-be in Deseret are going to have to sit down and take a hard, cold look at BYU’s experiment with Independence and ask themselves if this is really a good idea, or not. They went 10-3 the first year (2011) and are a combined 55-42 since then. Who knows, maybe that performance-level is all they really want or need from their football program.

I don't know about the dollars, but in a "national presence" sense, BYU has clearly been diminished over the past 10 years. For decades, from the 1980s - 2000s, BYU was clearly regarded as a "power level" program and respected as such by almost everyone. And they had a brand name to match.

BYU still has some of that, but Boise has almost taken their place in that regard. I'm not sure what the answer is, but they are withering on the vine, not just in terms of winning, but where it matters most, as a brand.

Their brand is withering since they went Indy.

They belong in the MWC. Their pride is driving this.

If they rejoined they MWC they’d have those magical seasons they had for 30 years in the WAC. This traveling all over the country to play @Toledo @USF and @UMASS has to be exhausting the players. They wouldn’t dominate the AAC at all but they’d be a hard #2 in the MWC after Boise.

(10-14-2019 07:02 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 04:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 02:14 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:12 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 09:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect when all is said and done, BYU's loss to USF will keep them out of bowl season.

Could very well be the case.

I don’t know when it will happen, but at some point the powers-that-be in Deseret are going to have to sit down and take a hard, cold look at BYU’s experiment with Independence and ask themselves if this is really a good idea, or not. They went 10-3 the first year (2011) and are a combined 55-42 since then. Who knows, maybe that performance-level is all they really want or need from their football program.

I don't know about the dollars, but in a "national presence" sense, BYU has clearly been diminished over the past 10 years. For decades, from the 1980s - 2000s, BYU was clearly regarded as a "power level" program and respected as such by almost everyone. And they had a brand name to match.

BYU still has some of that, but Boise has almost taken their place in that regard. I'm not sure what the answer is, but they are withering on the vine, not just in terms of winning, but where it matters most, as a brand.

Their brand is withering since they went Indy.

They belong in the MWC. Their pride is driving this.

I think so too. But pride is a big factor in college athletics, it's formidable.

I would agree 100% that Boise today is pretty much BYU from the 80's/90's. The only place they're different is they lost their Lavell Edwards, while BYU was able to keep him.

(10-17-2019 08:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I would agree 100% that Boise today is pretty much BYU from the 80's/90's. The only place they're different is they lost their Lavell Edwards, while BYU was able to keep him.

They've really got it rolling under Harsin now too. 37-9 the last 3.5 seasons with 3 MWC titles.