As I said earlier in the thread you should try to explain it to a laid off factory worker in rural Iowa or as someone else pointed out, in Appalachia.

(10-14-2019 01:20 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:32 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:31 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:26 AM)debragga Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:24 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  It's racist to assume that people of a different skin color are somehow unable to provide for themselves and make a life for themselves the same way white people can.

We’re not saying it’s impossible. We’re saying it’s a lot harder for those without privilege to catch up to those who do have it.

Having white skin doesn't give you privilege. We have laws that make it a requirement to hire minorities. We have laws making it a requirement for colleges to accept minorities. If anything that's the privilege. This isn't judging someone based on the content of their character it has everything to do with the color of their skin. If it was about character then race wouldn't be asked on applications.

Well, I think I'm going to stop arguing with you. You're clearly not willing to look at anything deeper than the surface of an issue.

Read through the entire thread and I had the same thought when I got to this comment. If you cannot even admit that being white in America comes with a form of privilege (be it SES, profiling, work force, the list goes on) you're living in a complete fantasy land of either willful ignorance or complete denial.

Would you argue that a kid from rural South Georgia has white privilege vs Obama’s kids?

(10-14-2019 01:54 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:20 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:32 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:31 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:26 AM)debragga Wrote:  We’re not saying it’s impossible. We’re saying it’s a lot harder for those without privilege to catch up to those who do have it.

Having white skin doesn't give you privilege. We have laws that make it a requirement to hire minorities. We have laws making it a requirement for colleges to accept minorities. If anything that's the privilege. This isn't judging someone based on the content of their character it has everything to do with the color of their skin. If it was about character then race wouldn't be asked on applications.

Well, I think I'm going to stop arguing with you. You're clearly not willing to look at anything deeper than the surface of an issue.

Read through the entire thread and I had the same thought when I got to this comment. If you cannot even admit that being white in America comes with a form of privilege (be it SES, profiling, work force, the list goes on) you're living in a complete fantasy land of either willful ignorance or complete denial.

Would you argue that a kid from rural South Georgia has white privilege vs Obama’s kids?

Exactly. It's crazy to me that Dems are advocating that we should judge an entire race of people on the color of their skin. It's racism plain and simple. Individual people are different and have different life experiences.

(10-14-2019 02:08 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:54 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 01:20 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:32 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:31 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  Having white skin doesn't give you privilege. We have laws that make it a requirement to hire minorities. We have laws making it a requirement for colleges to accept minorities. If anything that's the privilege. This isn't judging someone based on the content of their character it has everything to do with the color of their skin. If it was about character then race wouldn't be asked on applications.

Well, I think I'm going to stop arguing with you. You're clearly not willing to look at anything deeper than the surface of an issue.

Read through the entire thread and I had the same thought when I got to this comment. If you cannot even admit that being white in America comes with a form of privilege (be it SES, profiling, work force, the list goes on) you're living in a complete fantasy land of either willful ignorance or complete denial.

Would you argue that a kid from rural South Georgia has white privilege vs Obama’s kids?

Exactly. It's crazy to me that Dems are advocating that we should judge an entire race of people on the color of their skin. It's racism plain and simple. Individual people are different and have different life experiences.

Dems are moving away from the American philosophy of individualism into the tribalism that lead Europe and continues to lead Asia and Africa to endless wars.
And they are moving far away from MLK's dream.

White people screw over other white people everyday. Privilege does exist, but it isn't always open blatant white privilege as some say. It can be rich privilege, family privilege and who you know privilege. You know, like the son of the business owner who smokes weed in the parking lot and keeps his job with promotions while you get fired for the same offense. It's a screwed up world that will always be this way. A lot of good guys turn into A-holes once they become the privileged. The trick the privileged play is to make the peasants (all of you) fight among yourselves as if you different, while they rob you blind. Keep chasing that carrot. One day you will realize you just have to take it.

Some of you even create the privileged by re-electing them over and over and over....

Dang, CB, you're right on this one.

(10-14-2019 05:33 PM)banker Wrote:  Dang, CB, you're right on this one.

First time I've ever agreed with him.

(10-14-2019 06:51 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-14-2019 05:33 PM)banker Wrote:  Dang, CB, you're right on this one.

First time I've ever agreed with him.

Same here lol

(10-14-2019 03:09 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  White people screw over other white people everyday. Privilege does exist, but it isn't always open blatant white privilege as some say. It can be rich privilege, family privilege and who you know privilege. You know, like the son of the business owner who smokes weed in the parking lot and keeps his job with promotions while you get fired for the same offense. It's a screwed up world that will always be this way. A lot of good guys turn into A-holes once they become the privileged. The trick the privileged play is to make the peasants (all of you) fight among yourselves as if you different, while they rob you blind. Keep chasing that carrot. One day you will realize you just have to take it.

Some of you even create the privileged by re-electing them over and over and over....

Oh, as to your last sentence, 28 of the 35 longest serving current members of the House are democrats. 47 of the 63 members with at least 20 years are democrats. If you look at the longest serving Senators of all time, 30 of the top 40 were/are democrats. Seems like that re-electing the elite is much more a dem thing.

Rhetorical question: would you rather be born white or a person of color? Maybe it should be called white advantage instead of white privilege.

(10-15-2019 06:35 AM)App75 Wrote:  Rhetorical question: would you rather be born white or a person of color? Maybe it should be called white advantage instead of white privilege.

It would depend on a ton of other factors. Where you are born? (It could be an advantage to be either race depending where you will live). To what family. What socio-economic status etc. To say be white or black in the abstract is meaningless.

(10-15-2019 06:35 AM)App75 Wrote:  Rhetorical question: would you rather be born white or a person of color? Maybe it should be called white advantage instead of white privilege.

Surveys say whites are more likely to wish to be something else than any other group.

I would argue its not really rhetorical-its a false assumption based on the past. I don't think any longer there is any significant disadvantage to be Hispanic (except if your parents are immigrants and that applies equally to everyone) or to be Asian (unless you want to get into an elite college ). I think the disadvantage to being Black is minimal and decreasing every day. It's dwarfed by the variation in privilege within each group. In certain ways there are advantages-getting into colleges and the difficulty in getting fired. Sure there are legacy poverty issues. But most Blacks are not born poor. And while in a lower %, there are more whites born poor. Poverty is a disadvantage regardless of skin color.

What you see in the media is a lot of Blacks with what I call the "blue collar attitude." Everybody is out to screw them. Its just with white blue collars, its general. With Blacks they imagine its because they are Black. As cb said above, there are some people who will do that, regardless of the skin color involved. And if you go in with the attitude that you are going to get screwed, its more likely to happen.

(10-15-2019 06:35 AM)App75 Wrote:  Rhetorical question: would you rather be born white or a person of color? Maybe it should be called white advantage instead of white privilege.

Asian

(10-15-2019 06:35 AM)App75 Wrote:  Rhetorical question: would you rather be born white or a person of color? Maybe it should be called white advantage instead of white privilege.

I'd rather be born rich than poor. I'd rather be born in a home with two parents than one with a single parent. I'd rather be born to parents who had jobs and worked to parents who sat home and drew welfare checks. I'd rather finish at least HS, get a job, and wait until I am at least 21 and married before having any children.

Why? Because these are the indicators of success in life. It just so happens that more whites are on the success side of those divides, and more blacks are on the failure side.

(10-14-2019 01:20 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:32 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:31 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:26 AM)debragga Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:24 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  It's racist to assume that people of a different skin color are somehow unable to provide for themselves and make a life for themselves the same way white people can.

We’re not saying it’s impossible. We’re saying it’s a lot harder for those without privilege to catch up to those who do have it.

Having white skin doesn't give you privilege. We have laws that make it a requirement to hire minorities. We have laws making it a requirement for colleges to accept minorities. If anything that's the privilege. This isn't judging someone based on the content of their character it has everything to do with the color of their skin. If it was about character then race wouldn't be asked on applications.

Well, I think I'm going to stop arguing with you. You're clearly not willing to look at anything deeper than the surface of an issue.

Read through the entire thread and I had the same thought when I got to this comment. If you cannot even admit that being white in America comes with a form of privilege (be it SES, profiling, work force, the list goes on) you're living in a complete fantasy land of either willful ignorance or complete denial.

is that why you belched on your bet, because of your white privilege?

While I admire grit and true life stories that serve as reassurance that circumstances do not define the person... I'm aware of only one poster in 20 years of posting on sports message boards who clearly wanted everyone to appreciate his financial status in life... and that would be the same person who is the only poster in 20 years of posting on a sports message board who had the pretentiousness to tell me I've never accomplished anything of value... that, seemingly in a futile attempt to bait me into protesting and bragging about my achievements... me, who as often as possible, makes charitable contributions under the name "Anonymous," right? Indeed, if I'm going to brag about something, though, it's that my wife and I give away 11% of our income every month, and/but only because we've been blessed to have that to give away, not because we're so good on our own.

Having said all that, I agree with pretty much everything he had to say in his last post here, and as the grandson of two coal miners from the land of the Hatfields & McCoys, can also relate well to a lot of his experiences.

(10-11-2019 10:41 AM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  I'm white. I understand that I have many privelages over people of color that I REALLY shouldn't. I don't get what's so hard for these kids to understand.

For some reason that young black people think all whites have privileges, but not true when people with disability are treated bad at school, work place and all that. There were outcry from people of all races screamed hate crime at those two black thugs and their girlfriend abused a mentally challenged white young man. Whoopi Goldberg slammed them and stood up for that kid. There is evil people out there and she said evil comes from any race. Whoopi is more moderate on the left than those screaming SJW harpies.

(10-11-2019 11:21 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:18 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:09 AM)FTE_rawr Wrote:  

(10-11-2019 11:04 AM)CheckYosef94 Wrote:  "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Saying "white people need to realize that they are the problem and that their privilege is toxic" or saying someone has white privilege really doesn't live up to this message.

Pretending privelage doesn't exist doesn't help the situation either.

Privilege exists but it's not race related.

Oh dude, please stop. Just stop.

It isn't race related. You are confusing correlation and causality.

(10-13-2019 02:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  What in tarnation? Can we make a rule where if a Sun Belt thread goes off the rails and NPCs are regurgitating the same, tired, basic, mindless college student talking points, it goes to the Wild West board and not the main politics board?

Indeed. For educated people some of these folks are ignorant as all git out. (I'll now wait for the generalizations ans stereotypes about southern white males to be thrown at me.)

(10-14-2019 10:14 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Yikes. First time visiting on this part of the website, and I think I entered a bizarro world. I'm only took few sociology classes as free electives, but even I can see denial when I see it.

Let me guess, CNN is fake news, racism is a thing of the past, gender gap doesn't exist, Global Warming is a conspiracy, America should build a wall? Really wish I found this site few years ago so I could've reached out to few of you for interviews as case studies in my paper lol.

Forgive me if I trust the works of academic studies from respected scholars over anonymous hardcore conservatives. I thought about relaying some notable academic studies on these matters, but frankly, I dont think you guys really want to hear it. Probably more trouble than it's worth..not for free anyways. Have a good day everyone.

You literally touched on just about every liberal talking point I've ever heard. Your problem is that you've relied much too heavily on academic types who've made a living creating tropes that people who are incapable of original thought and critical thinking consume like nectar from the gods. Real world experiences, as you will find out eventually, trump academic achievement every single time. #educatedidiots