(10-17-2019 09:38 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 09:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Seton Hall played in the national championship game in 1989. It is a Top 100 program of all time by most metrics.

And the current Big East is stronger in more categories (more Final Fours, better annual attendance, more NBA players produced, etc.) than the American overall. I realize that's easy for me to say since I follow two schools in the BE and two in the AAC, but it's the reality.

The American in hoops continues to improve and it's encouraging. But let's keep this in perspective.

1 good year doesnt make a program..

top 100 is a low bar as there are less than 100 power programs .... they been playing basketball since the inception on the tournament had have 4 sweet 16s total....there are definitely more than 100 teams included

ad your totals is meaningless, this is the 1st time a big portion of our conference is playing a multibid league and have those recruiting advantages and tv eyes.. a few of our programs are relatively new (compared to the age of most colleges) ...off course youd have a totals advantage

2-10 of the big east and 1-10 of the aac has been borderline identical..villonova is the sole difference and 2 anchor programs on our end

To your point, 1 good year doesn't make a conference.

But I'm not sure where your comparison on teams is coming from though. Last year is the only year we can say AAC has been borderline on par with BE. I'm not sure what metrics you want to go by, but say we use Kenpom. BE since the split usually has 5-6 in top 50 and 9 (sometimes all 10) in top 100. AAC since split will usually put up 2 or 3 top 50 and 5-6 top 100. Keeping in mind, that's raw numbers and not percent of programs and doesn't give BE teams any "easy" wins in conference play.

Last year was a good year though for AAC and with it being a down year for BE, it looked surprisingly even (I didn't realize how close it really was). Hopefully the growth continues with Memphis stepping up their recruiting game with Penny.

This is all too much aac vs BE talk though, which is silly. This is really just people taking a joke too seriously and ragging on Seton Hall (even fans of a certain directional school ;-) ). Seton Hall has a very good run w/ tournament bids since the split and Kenpom average has them nearly top 50 program. They're alright, and so is the aac. Let's focus on the over rating of the B10 instead. :-D

I just find it extremely odd at the lengths a Marquette fan is going to defend Seton Hall. Are you NBE fans just one big circle jerk?

lol like Alabama would ever defend Auburn to anybody just because they're both "SEC brethren".

(10-17-2019 10:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 09:38 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 09:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Seton Hall played in the national championship game in 1989. It is a Top 100 program of all time by most metrics.

And the current Big East is stronger in more categories (more Final Fours, better annual attendance, more NBA players produced, etc.) than the American overall. I realize that's easy for me to say since I follow two schools in the BE and two in the AAC, but it's the reality.

The American in hoops continues to improve and it's encouraging. But let's keep this in perspective.

1 good year doesnt make a program..

top 100 is a low bar as there are less than 100 power programs .... they been playing basketball since the inception on the tournament had have 4 sweet 16s total....there are definitely more than 100 teams included

ad your totals is meaningless, this is the 1st time a big portion of our conference is playing a multibid league and have those recruiting advantages and tv eyes.. a few of our programs are relatively new (compared to the age of most colleges) ...off course youd have a totals advantage

2-10 of the big east and 1-10 of the aac has been borderline identical..villonova is the sole difference and 2 anchor programs on our end

To your point, 1 good year doesn't make a conference.

But I'm not sure where your comparison on teams is coming from though. Last year is the only year we can say AAC has been borderline on par with BE. I'm not sure what metrics you want to go by, but say we use Kenpom. BE since the split usually has 5-6 in top 50 and 9 (sometimes all 10) in top 100. AAC since split will usually put up 2 or 3 top 50 and 5-6 top 100. Keeping in mind, that's raw numbers and not percent of programs and doesn't give BE teams any "easy" wins in conference play.

Last year was a good year though for AAC and with it being a down year for BE, it looked surprisingly even (I didn't realize how close it really was). Hopefully the growth continues with Memphis stepping up their recruiting game with Penny.

This is all too much aac vs BE talk though, which is silly. This is really just people taking a joke too seriously and ragging on Seton Hall (even fans of a certain directional school ;-) ). Seton Hall has a very good run w/ tournament bids since the split and Kenpom average has them nearly top 50 program. They're alright, and so is the aac. Let's focus on the over rating of the B10 instead. :-D

I just find it extremely odd at the lengths a Marquette fan is going to defend Seton Hall. Are you NBE fans just one big circle jerk?

lol like Alabama would ever defend Auburn to anybody just because they're both "SEC brethren".

Insecurity most likely.

(10-17-2019 10:55 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 09:38 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 09:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Seton Hall played in the national championship game in 1989. It is a Top 100 program of all time by most metrics.

And the current Big East is stronger in more categories (more Final Fours, better annual attendance, more NBA players produced, etc.) than the American overall. I realize that's easy for me to say since I follow two schools in the BE and two in the AAC, but it's the reality.

The American in hoops continues to improve and it's encouraging. But let's keep this in perspective.

1 good year doesnt make a program..

top 100 is a low bar as there are less than 100 power programs .... they been playing basketball since the inception on the tournament had have 4 sweet 16s total....there are definitely more than 100 teams included

ad your totals is meaningless, this is the 1st time a big portion of our conference is playing a multibid league and have those recruiting advantages and tv eyes.. a few of our programs are relatively new (compared to the age of most colleges) ...off course youd have a totals advantage

2-10 of the big east and 1-10 of the aac has been borderline identical..villonova is the sole difference and 2 anchor programs on our end

To your point, 1 good year doesn't make a conference.

But I'm not sure where your comparison on teams is coming from though. Last year is the only year we can say AAC has been borderline on par with BE. I'm not sure what metrics you want to go by, but say we use Kenpom. BE since the split usually has 5-6 in top 50 and 9 (sometimes all 10) in top 100. AAC since split will usually put up 2 or 3 top 50 and 5-6 top 100. Keeping in mind, that's raw numbers and not percent of programs and doesn't give BE teams any "easy" wins in conference play.

Last year was a good year though for AAC and with it being a down year for BE, it looked surprisingly even (I didn't realize how close it really was). Hopefully the growth continues with Memphis stepping up their recruiting game with Penny.

This is all too much aac vs BE talk though, which is silly. This is really just people taking a joke too seriously and ragging on Seton Hall (even fans of a certain directional school ;-) ). Seton Hall has a very good run w/ tournament bids since the split and Kenpom average has them nearly top 50 program. They're alright, and so is the aac. Let's focus on the over rating of the B10 instead. :-D

I just find it extremely odd at the lengths a Marquette fan is going to defend Seton Hall. Are you NBE fans just one big circle jerk?

lol like Alabama would ever defend Auburn to anybody just because they're both "SEC brethren".

Insecurity most likely.

This is ironic.

I somewhat follow and cheer for the success of the AAC b/c of shared history with the couple former BE and CUSA schools, but the insecurity and inferiority complex of many fans of AAC teams drives me absolutely nuts. It's not the shade thrown at Seton Hall, it's how twisted peoples undies get over the smallest perceived slight.

It's hard to keep myself from trying to snap people into reality, but yes I do know that's nearly impossible in this sort of setting. So knowing it won't really make a difference, I keep commenting anyway (to my own detriment).

(10-16-2019 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Seton Hall played in the national championship game in 1989. It is a Top 100 program of all time by most metrics.

And the current Big East is stronger in more categories (more Final Fours, better annual attendance, more NBA players produced, etc.) than the American overall. I realize that's easy for me to say since I follow two schools in the BE and two in the AAC, but it's the reality.

The American in hoops continues to improve and it's encouraging. But let's keep this in perspective.

All I'm hearing is Charlie Brown's teacher going....

Wah wah wah wah wah.... doesn't sponsor football.... wah wah. Wah wah wah wah wah.

Hard to blame him. We take shot at those programs too. Particularly ECU.

(10-17-2019 11:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Hard to blame him. We take shot at those programs too. Particularly ECU.

not head coaches, not to the national media when you know you are being recorded...this quotes wasnt even to 1 reporter...he said this when he had like 8 reporters on him

(10-17-2019 09:38 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 09:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Seton Hall played in the national championship game in 1989. It is a Top 100 program of all time by most metrics.

And the current Big East is stronger in more categories (more Final Fours, better annual attendance, more NBA players produced, etc.) than the American overall. I realize that's easy for me to say since I follow two schools in the BE and two in the AAC, but it's the reality.

The American in hoops continues to improve and it's encouraging. But let's keep this in perspective.

1 good year doesnt make a program..

top 100 is a low bar as there are less than 100 power programs .... they been playing basketball since the inception on the tournament had have 4 sweet 16s total....there are definitely more than 100 teams included

ad your totals is meaningless, this is the 1st time a big portion of our conference is playing a multibid league and have those recruiting advantages and tv eyes.. a few of our programs are relatively new (compared to the age of most colleges) ...off course youd have a totals advantage

2-10 of the big east and 1-10 of the aac has been borderline identical..villonova is the sole difference and 2 anchor programs on our end

To your point, 1 good year doesn't make a conference.

But I'm not sure where your comparison on teams is coming from though. Last year is the only year we can say AAC has been borderline on par with BE. I'm not sure what metrics you want to go by, but say we use Kenpom. BE since the split usually has 5-6 in top 50 and 9 (sometimes all 10) in top 100. AAC since split will usually put up 2 or 3 top 50 and 5-6 top 100. Keeping in mind, that's raw numbers and not percent of programs and doesn't give BE teams any "easy" wins in conference play.

Last year was a good year though for AAC and with it being a down year for BE, it looked surprisingly even (I didn't realize how close it really was). Hopefully the growth continues with Memphis stepping up their recruiting game with Penny.

This is all too much aac vs BE talk though, which is silly. This is really just people taking a joke too seriously and ragging on Seton Hall (even fans of a certain directional school ;-) ). Seton Hall has a very good run w/ tournament bids since the split and Kenpom average has them nearly top 50 program. They're alright, and so is the aac. Let's focus on the over rating of the B10 instead. :-D

1) there have been 6 total years of AAC play,
seton hall has been playing basketball for 130 years
--your 1 year comp falls short

2) do big east fans not know that the aac has uneven schedules? if you are good, you only play ecu and tulane twice in an 18 game conference schedule ... big east people love to push this narrative like we play 10 ecu/tulane game a year

3) last year was the 1st year our 1-10 looked like your 1-10.. most other years its our 1-10 and your 2-10 are extremely similar ...not denying we have 2 anchor programs, you guys love computer rankings as those are based on averages and we have 2 250rpi teams

4) also another weird narrative i here from people not league (specifically big east people) like to say we just had a "good year" last year, like it was some cumulative high point not to expect every year....last was just a regular year....ucf was the only team on paper not going through some crazy rebuild on paper...most media had us at 2bids preseason and a few hot takes of a 1 bid league...no one considers last year special
we are still waiting on some vital waivers but if they are approved most are expecting a drastically better aac year than last year

(10-17-2019 11:06 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:55 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 09:38 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 09:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  1 good year doesnt make a program..

top 100 is a low bar as there are less than 100 power programs .... they been playing basketball since the inception on the tournament had have 4 sweet 16s total....there are definitely more than 100 teams included

ad your totals is meaningless, this is the 1st time a big portion of our conference is playing a multibid league and have those recruiting advantages and tv eyes.. a few of our programs are relatively new (compared to the age of most colleges) ...off course youd have a totals advantage

2-10 of the big east and 1-10 of the aac has been borderline identical..villonova is the sole difference and 2 anchor programs on our end

To your point, 1 good year doesn't make a conference.

But I'm not sure where your comparison on teams is coming from though. Last year is the only year we can say AAC has been borderline on par with BE. I'm not sure what metrics you want to go by, but say we use Kenpom. BE since the split usually has 5-6 in top 50 and 9 (sometimes all 10) in top 100. AAC since split will usually put up 2 or 3 top 50 and 5-6 top 100. Keeping in mind, that's raw numbers and not percent of programs and doesn't give BE teams any "easy" wins in conference play.

Last year was a good year though for AAC and with it being a down year for BE, it looked surprisingly even (I didn't realize how close it really was). Hopefully the growth continues with Memphis stepping up their recruiting game with Penny.

This is all too much aac vs BE talk though, which is silly. This is really just people taking a joke too seriously and ragging on Seton Hall (even fans of a certain directional school ;-) ). Seton Hall has a very good run w/ tournament bids since the split and Kenpom average has them nearly top 50 program. They're alright, and so is the aac. Let's focus on the over rating of the B10 instead. :-D

I just find it extremely odd at the lengths a Marquette fan is going to defend Seton Hall. Are you NBE fans just one big circle jerk?

lol like Alabama would ever defend Auburn to anybody just because they're both "SEC brethren".

Insecurity most likely.

This is ironic.

I somewhat follow and cheer for the success of the AAC b/c of shared history with the couple former BE and CUSA schools, but the insecurity and inferiority complex of many fans of AAC teams drives me absolutely nuts. It's not the shade thrown at Seton Hall, it's how twisted peoples undies get over the smallest perceived slight.

It's hard to keep myself from trying to snap people into reality, but yes I do know that's nearly impossible in this sort of setting. So knowing it won't really make a difference, I keep commenting anyway (to my own detriment).

More ironic than a NBE fan posting in an AAC forum about any perceived slight a conference foe takes?

(10-17-2019 11:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Hard to blame him. We take shot at those programs too. Particularly ECU.

I like what you did there.

ECU = Seton Hall

(10-17-2019 11:47 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:06 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:55 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 09:38 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  To your point, 1 good year doesn't make a conference.

But I'm not sure where your comparison on teams is coming from though. Last year is the only year we can say AAC has been borderline on par with BE. I'm not sure what metrics you want to go by, but say we use Kenpom. BE since the split usually has 5-6 in top 50 and 9 (sometimes all 10) in top 100. AAC since split will usually put up 2 or 3 top 50 and 5-6 top 100. Keeping in mind, that's raw numbers and not percent of programs and doesn't give BE teams any "easy" wins in conference play.

Last year was a good year though for AAC and with it being a down year for BE, it looked surprisingly even (I didn't realize how close it really was). Hopefully the growth continues with Memphis stepping up their recruiting game with Penny.

This is all too much aac vs BE talk though, which is silly. This is really just people taking a joke too seriously and ragging on Seton Hall (even fans of a certain directional school ;-) ). Seton Hall has a very good run w/ tournament bids since the split and Kenpom average has them nearly top 50 program. They're alright, and so is the aac. Let's focus on the over rating of the B10 instead. :-D

I just find it extremely odd at the lengths a Marquette fan is going to defend Seton Hall. Are you NBE fans just one big circle jerk?

lol like Alabama would ever defend Auburn to anybody just because they're both "SEC brethren".

Insecurity most likely.

This is ironic.

I somewhat follow and cheer for the success of the AAC b/c of shared history with the couple former BE and CUSA schools, but the insecurity and inferiority complex of many fans of AAC teams drives me absolutely nuts. It's not the shade thrown at Seton Hall, it's how twisted peoples undies get over the smallest perceived slight.

It's hard to keep myself from trying to snap people into reality, but yes I do know that's nearly impossible in this sort of setting. So knowing it won't really make a difference, I keep commenting anyway (to my own detriment).

More ironic than a NBE fan posting in an AAC forum about any perceived slight a conference foe takes?

That's not irony.

(10-17-2019 11:50 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:47 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:06 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:55 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  I just find it extremely odd at the lengths a Marquette fan is going to defend Seton Hall. Are you NBE fans just one big circle jerk?

lol like Alabama would ever defend Auburn to anybody just because they're both "SEC brethren".

Insecurity most likely.

This is ironic.

I somewhat follow and cheer for the success of the AAC b/c of shared history with the couple former BE and CUSA schools, but the insecurity and inferiority complex of many fans of AAC teams drives me absolutely nuts. It's not the shade thrown at Seton Hall, it's how twisted peoples undies get over the smallest perceived slight.

It's hard to keep myself from trying to snap people into reality, but yes I do know that's nearly impossible in this sort of setting. So knowing it won't really make a difference, I keep commenting anyway (to my own detriment).

More ironic than a NBE fan posting in an AAC forum about any perceived slight a conference foe takes?

That's not irony.

My bad. Hypocritical.

(10-17-2019 11:52 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:50 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:47 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:06 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 10:55 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Insecurity most likely.

This is ironic.

I somewhat follow and cheer for the success of the AAC b/c of shared history with the couple former BE and CUSA schools, but the insecurity and inferiority complex of many fans of AAC teams drives me absolutely nuts. It's not the shade thrown at Seton Hall, it's how twisted peoples undies get over the smallest perceived slight.

It's hard to keep myself from trying to snap people into reality, but yes I do know that's nearly impossible in this sort of setting. So knowing it won't really make a difference, I keep commenting anyway (to my own detriment).

More ironic than a NBE fan posting in an AAC forum about any perceived slight a conference foe takes?

That's not irony.

My bad. Hypocritical.

I can see why you'd think that, if my motivation had anything to do with Seton Hall here. However, it's actually the fact that 1/4 to 1/3 of the threads in the AAC board are all about comparisons to other conferences, getting respect, the P6, etc. If you look at any other conference on this forum or outside, you'll see them almost exclusively discussing team performance, who's going to win divisions, recruiting news, etc etc. Like I said, it drives me nuts and here we have a thread that is openly discussing it... so instead of lurking like I usually do on most boards, I jumped it.

Alright, I've explained myself. Enough beating a dead horse.

You’re a NBE fan, actively participating on an AAC board. If you don’t like it, maybe you shouldn’t read it. No one is forcing you to look at AAC-related topics, except for the obvious presence of your own insecurities.

I just went to your holy land site and that place is littered with whining, crying, and calling out of other conferences. So please spare us with the repeated hypocrisies.

(10-17-2019 11:49 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 11:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Hard to blame him. We take shot at those programs too. Particularly ECU.

I like what you did there.

ECU = Seton Hall

Go Pirates!

(10-17-2019 10:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 09:38 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 09:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-16-2019 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Seton Hall played in the national championship game in 1989. It is a Top 100 program of all time by most metrics.

And the current Big East is stronger in more categories (more Final Fours, better annual attendance, more NBA players produced, etc.) than the American overall. I realize that's easy for me to say since I follow two schools in the BE and two in the AAC, but it's the reality.

The American in hoops continues to improve and it's encouraging. But let's keep this in perspective.

1 good year doesnt make a program..

top 100 is a low bar as there are less than 100 power programs .... they been playing basketball since the inception on the tournament had have 4 sweet 16s total....there are definitely more than 100 teams included

ad your totals is meaningless, this is the 1st time a big portion of our conference is playing a multibid league and have those recruiting advantages and tv eyes.. a few of our programs are relatively new (compared to the age of most colleges) ...off course youd have a totals advantage

2-10 of the big east and 1-10 of the aac has been borderline identical..villonova is the sole difference and 2 anchor programs on our end

To your point, 1 good year doesn't make a conference.

But I'm not sure where your comparison on teams is coming from though. Last year is the only year we can say AAC has been borderline on par with BE. I'm not sure what metrics you want to go by, but say we use Kenpom. BE since the split usually has 5-6 in top 50 and 9 (sometimes all 10) in top 100. AAC since split will usually put up 2 or 3 top 50 and 5-6 top 100. Keeping in mind, that's raw numbers and not percent of programs and doesn't give BE teams any "easy" wins in conference play.

Last year was a good year though for AAC and with it being a down year for BE, it looked surprisingly even (I didn't realize how close it really was). Hopefully the growth continues with Memphis stepping up their recruiting game with Penny.

This is all too much aac vs BE talk though, which is silly. This is really just people taking a joke too seriously and ragging on Seton Hall (even fans of a certain directional school ;-) ). Seton Hall has a very good run w/ tournament bids since the split and Kenpom average has them nearly top 50 program. They're alright, and so is the aac. Let's focus on the over rating of the B10 instead. :-D

I just find it extremely odd at the lengths a Marquette fan is going to defend Seton Hall. Are you NBE fans just one big circle jerk?

lol like Alabama would ever defend Auburn to anybody just because they're both "SEC brethren".

They do though, and it's annoying. I think in the SEC's case it's more of a southern pride thing though and extends well beyond athletics.

The NBE is a little better than what the Atlantic 10 was in the early 2000's. Small schools and fanbases that love basketball.

(10-16-2019 07:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  Seton Hall played in the national championship game in 1989. It is a Top 100 program of all time by most metrics.

And the current Big East is stronger in more categories (more Final Fours, better annual attendance, more NBA players produced, etc.) than the American overall. I realize that's easy for me to say since I follow two schools in the BE and two in the AAC, but it's the reality.

The American in hoops continues to improve and it's encouraging. But let's keep this in perspective.

The NBE is a one trick (sport) pony. The AAC is focused on excelling in multiple sports. So you have some history to tout, but the question should be, who has the better future.

(10-17-2019 12:02 PM)MU in MKE Wrote:  I can see why you'd think that, if my motivation had anything to do with Seton Hall here. However, it's actually the fact that 1/4 to 1/3 of the threads in the AAC board are all about comparisons to other conferences, getting respect, the P6, etc. If you look at any other conference on this forum or outside, you'll see them almost exclusively discussing team performance, who's going to win divisions, recruiting news, etc etc. Like I said, it drives me nuts and here we have a thread that is openly discussing it... so instead of lurking like I usually do on most boards, I jumped it.

Alright, I've explained myself. Enough beating a dead horse.

lmao!!! that is not true at all

here is the c-usa forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-439.html

here is the mwc forum
https://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/foru...rts-forum/

here is the mac forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-472.html

here is the big 12 forum (via wvu)
https://247sports.com/college/west-virgi...ce-105475/

here is the big east east forum (less obvious but look at all the posts in the uconn threads)
https://link-filtered-due-to-frequent-spamming/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=9d9c4d0bc4b73a04a192f4a7b0fd8bce

those are the active conference forums
the bigger conferences dont really have forums (except sec/pac 12, but those have stritch posting rules)

THERE IS AN ACTIVE TRASH THE AAC THREAD IN ALL OF THEM (some have multiple)

atleast the aac obsession is why we are good..not why someelse is bad

and something else ive noticed on reddit...there is an obsession by big east fans on Reddit about labeling the aac mid-major...everyone else on reddit when they make posts always have a top 7 or top 8 (sometimes adding a10)..big east fans when they make posts ALWAYS go out of there way to label themselves high major or power conference (even if the label wasnt needed) and makes sure to not include any aac and label them mid-major
..when the aac is recognized as a high major by the ncaa and every media outlet...and mid-majors think its absurd to label us with them as we have advantages they dont

Seton Hall ranked No. 12?
Yep coach must be cheating:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket...-two-games

(10-17-2019 11:10 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Hard to blame him. We take shot at those programs too. Particularly ECU.

Yeah.... I guess we kind of deserve it.

Marquette is still mad about losing to ECU so many years ago when they where in the top ten. Also they hated coming to Greenville because most of the time it was a L.