(10-30-2019 07:49 AM)liquidshade Wrote:  Marquette is still mad about losing to ECU so many years ago when they where in the top ten. Also they hated coming to Greenville because most of the time it was a L.

Not mad actually!

That year, Marquette imploded right at the end of the season after a stellar year and being ranked in the top 10. They lost to Cincinnati and ECU at the end of conference play, got a 5 seed in the NCAAT only to lose to the 12 seed and see one of their best players transfer. Those hardships pushed the team the following year to win the conference and make it to the final four.

The best part:
Fast forward to last year, Marquette had a great year and worked to a top 10 ranking. But once again, they blew up the end of conference play, got a 5 seed in the NCAAT only to lose to the 12 seed and see one (maybe two) of their best players transfer. Maybe this is a repeat of history that ECU had a hand in making?

So you see, not mad... even the low points in sports history can become a piece of a much greater story. This is what's so great about college basketball!

Willard gets 2 games for recruit tampering (self-imposed by Seton Hall) LOL...slap on the wrist considering one game is an exhibition and the other game is against Wagner.

I hope fellow coaches "Negative recruit" against him...he is a POS IMHO.

(10-30-2019 01:21 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Willard gets 2 games for recruit tampering (self-imposed by Seton Hall) LOL...slap on the wrist considering one game is an exhibition and the other game is against Wagner.

I hope fellow coaches "Negative recruit" against him...he is a POS IMHO.

The dude spent 6 years coaching alongside Rick Pitino in Louisville. The slime must have rubbed off on him.

He'll probably say that it happened because of a supplement that his trainer gave him.

… oh wait a minute, that's the PED excuse.

(10-30-2019 09:57 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 07:49 AM)liquidshade Wrote:  Marquette is still mad about losing to ECU so many years ago when they where in the top ten. Also they hated coming to Greenville because most of the time it was a L.

Not mad actually!

That year, Marquette imploded right at the end of the season after a stellar year and being ranked in the top 10. They lost to Cincinnati and ECU at the end of conference play, got a 5 seed in the NCAAT only to lose to the 12 seed and see one of their best players transfer. Those hardships pushed the team the following year to win the conference and make it to the final four.

The best part:
Fast forward to last year, Marquette had a great year and worked to a top 10 ranking. But once again, they blew up the end of conference play, got a 5 seed in the NCAAT only to lose to the 12 seed and see one (maybe two) of their best players transfer. Maybe this is a repeat of history that ECU had a hand in making?

So you see, not mad... even the low points in sports history can become a piece of a much greater story. This is what's so great about college basketball!

Lol so you lost to ECU and got shown the door by Tulsa in the same year. Big East supremacy right there, even historically those programs have an overinflated sense of themselves. iIt s why Creighton and Xavier fit right in with St. John's, Seaton Hall, and now a Calhoun less UConn.


sorry huskyu

(10-17-2019 12:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:02 PM)MU in MKE Wrote:  I can see why you'd think that, if my motivation had anything to do with Seton Hall here. However, it's actually the fact that 1/4 to 1/3 of the threads in the AAC board are all about comparisons to other conferences, getting respect, the P6, etc. If you look at any other conference on this forum or outside, you'll see them almost exclusively discussing team performance, who's going to win divisions, recruiting news, etc etc. Like I said, it drives me nuts and here we have a thread that is openly discussing it... so instead of lurking like I usually do on most boards, I jumped it.

Alright, I've explained myself. Enough beating a dead horse.

lmao!!! that is not true at all

here is the c-usa forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-439.html

here is the mwc forum
https://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/foru...rts-forum/

here is the mac forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-472.html

here is the big 12 forum (via wvu)
https://247sports.com/college/west-virgi...ce-105475/

here is the big east east forum (less obvious but look at all the posts in the uconn threads)
https://link-filtered-due-to-frequent-spamming/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=9d9c4d0bc4b73a04a192f4a7b0fd8bce

those are the active conference forums
the bigger conferences dont really have forums (except sec/pac 12, but those have stritch posting rules)

THERE IS AN ACTIVE TRASH THE AAC THREAD IN ALL OF THEM (some have multiple)

atleast the aac obsession is why we are good..not why someelse is bad

and something else ive noticed on reddit...there is an obsession by big east fans on Reddit about labeling the aac mid-major...everyone else on reddit when they make posts always have a top 7 or top 8 (sometimes adding a10)..big east fans when they make posts ALWAYS go out of there way to label themselves high major or power conference (even if the label wasnt needed) and makes sure to not include any aac and label them mid-major
..when the aac is recognized as a high major by the ncaa and every media outlet...and mid-majors think its absurd to label us with them as we have advantages they dont

Here in Cincinnati we see it all the time from the Xavier fans on social media. They refer to themselves as "big brother" and UC as "little brother"... excuse me? The X guys need to take a history lesson and become a little more self-aware. There are a lot of people in this country that could not even tell you what city the school is located in.

(10-30-2019 01:51 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:02 PM)MU in MKE Wrote:  I can see why you'd think that, if my motivation had anything to do with Seton Hall here. However, it's actually the fact that 1/4 to 1/3 of the threads in the AAC board are all about comparisons to other conferences, getting respect, the P6, etc. If you look at any other conference on this forum or outside, you'll see them almost exclusively discussing team performance, who's going to win divisions, recruiting news, etc etc. Like I said, it drives me nuts and here we have a thread that is openly discussing it... so instead of lurking like I usually do on most boards, I jumped it.

Alright, I've explained myself. Enough beating a dead horse.

lmao!!! that is not true at all

here is the c-usa forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-439.html

here is the mwc forum
https://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/foru...rts-forum/

here is the mac forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-472.html

here is the big 12 forum (via wvu)
https://247sports.com/college/west-virgi...ce-105475/

here is the big east east forum (less obvious but look at all the posts in the uconn threads)
https://link-filtered-due-to-frequent-spamming/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=9d9c4d0bc4b73a04a192f4a7b0fd8bce

those are the active conference forums
the bigger conferences dont really have forums (except sec/pac 12, but those have stritch posting rules)

THERE IS AN ACTIVE TRASH THE AAC THREAD IN ALL OF THEM (some have multiple)

atleast the aac obsession is why we are good..not why someelse is bad

and something else ive noticed on reddit...there is an obsession by big east fans on Reddit about labeling the aac mid-major...everyone else on reddit when they make posts always have a top 7 or top 8 (sometimes adding a10)..big east fans when they make posts ALWAYS go out of there way to label themselves high major or power conference (even if the label wasnt needed) and makes sure to not include any aac and label them mid-major
..when the aac is recognized as a high major by the ncaa and every media outlet...and mid-majors think its absurd to label us with them as we have advantages they dont

Here in Cincinnati we see it all the time from the Xavier fans on social media. They refer to themselves as "big brother" and UC as "little brother"... excuse me? The X guys need to take a history lesson and become a little more self-aware. There are a lot of people in this country that could not even tell you what city the school is located in.

Both Cincinnati and Xavier are great programs. Xavier has had better post-season results lately, but I can see how the arrogance of some of their fans could get annoying. If any team is the big brother in that relationship, it is Cincinnati. Two national championships and a more storied history make it so. I have seen Cincinnati mentioned on "Top 25 Programs of all time" lists on multiple occasions. I have never seen Xavier on one of those lists.

(10-30-2019 01:51 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Lol so you lost to ECU and got shown the door by Tulsa in the same year. Big East supremacy right there, even historically those programs have an overinflated sense of themselves. iIt s why Creighton and Xavier fit right in with St. John's, Seaton Hall, and now a Calhoun less UConn.


sorry huskyu

If you are insinuating that UConn isn't the same program without Calhoun, then you need to apply that logic to a Cronin-less Cincinnati and a Dunphy-less Temple as well for consistency purposes. In fact, one could also say that a Calipari-less Memphis has never been the same (Josh Pastner and Tubby proved to be fairly mediocre coaches and Hardaway hasn't played a game yet.

I feel like the UConn, Cincinnati, and Memphis brands are too strong in basketball to be limited by a single legendary coach, though. The jury is still out on Temple since the Dunphy years (while solid) still never matched the Chaney years.

St.John's and Seton Hall will likely regain some of their former glory at some point (Seton Hall could regain it this year), but I don't expect either of those programs to be 100% what they were in the 80's and 90's. Lou Carnesecca is one of the all time greats, so expecting that exact level of success from St. John's again is asking a bit much. Seton Hall can get 90% there is they can start winning again this year. As for Creighton, they have a rabid fan base but until they go further in a NCAA tournament, I don't put them at the level of a UConn, Villanova, Cincinnati, Memphis, Marquette, or even Xavier.

(10-30-2019 02:22 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 01:51 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Lol so you lost to ECU and got shown the door by Tulsa in the same year. Big East supremacy right there, even historically those programs have an overinflated sense of themselves. iIt s why Creighton and Xavier fit right in with St. John's, Seaton Hall, and now a Calhoun less UConn.


sorry huskyu

If you are insinuating that UConn isn't the same program without Calhoun, then you need to apply that logic to a Cronin-less Cincinnati and a Dunphy-less Temple as well for consistency purposes. In fact, one could also say that a Calipari-less Memphis has never been the same (Josh Pastner and Tubby proved to be fairly mediocre coaches and Hardaway hasn't played a game yet.

I feel like the UConn, Cincinnati, and Memphis brands are too strong in basketball to be limited by a single legendary coach, though. The jury is still out on Temple since the Dunphy years (while solid) still never matched the Chaney years.

St.John's and Seton Hall will likely regain some of their former glory at some point (Seton Hall could regain it this year), but I don't expect either of those programs to be 100% what they were in the 80's and 90's. Lou Carnesecca is one of the all time greats, so expecting that exact level of success from St. John's again is asking a bit much. Seton Hall can get 90% there is they can start winning again this year. As for Creighton, they have a rabid fan base but until they go further in a NCAA tournament, I don't put them at the level of a UConn, Villanova, Cincinnati, Memphis, Marquette, or even Xavier.

TBD I think...I generally agree but with the new rule that players can earn money off their likeness it is going to really benefit the medium and large metros. Medium sized will benefit if it is a one horse town (Des Moines, Louisville, Syracuse, Hartford, Omaha, Columbia, etc...) and really focuses on one or two teams.

Seton Hall and SJU with the right coach could convince some 5 stars the benefit of the Big Apple

(10-30-2019 01:51 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(10-17-2019 12:02 PM)MU in MKE Wrote:  I can see why you'd think that, if my motivation had anything to do with Seton Hall here. However, it's actually the fact that 1/4 to 1/3 of the threads in the AAC board are all about comparisons to other conferences, getting respect, the P6, etc. If you look at any other conference on this forum or outside, you'll see them almost exclusively discussing team performance, who's going to win divisions, recruiting news, etc etc. Like I said, it drives me nuts and here we have a thread that is openly discussing it... so instead of lurking like I usually do on most boards, I jumped it.

Alright, I've explained myself. Enough beating a dead horse.

lmao!!! that is not true at all

here is the c-usa forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-439.html

here is the mwc forum
https://www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/foru...rts-forum/

here is the mac forum
https://csnbbs.com/forum-472.html

here is the big 12 forum (via wvu)
https://247sports.com/college/west-virgi...ce-105475/

here is the big east east forum (less obvious but look at all the posts in the uconn threads)
https://link-filtered-due-to-frequent-spamming/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=9d9c4d0bc4b73a04a192f4a7b0fd8bce

those are the active conference forums
the bigger conferences dont really have forums (except sec/pac 12, but those have stritch posting rules)

THERE IS AN ACTIVE TRASH THE AAC THREAD IN ALL OF THEM (some have multiple)

atleast the aac obsession is why we are good..not why someelse is bad

and something else ive noticed on reddit...there is an obsession by big east fans on Reddit about labeling the aac mid-major...everyone else on reddit when they make posts always have a top 7 or top 8 (sometimes adding a10)..big east fans when they make posts ALWAYS go out of there way to label themselves high major or power conference (even if the label wasnt needed) and makes sure to not include any aac and label them mid-major
..when the aac is recognized as a high major by the ncaa and every media outlet...and mid-majors think its absurd to label us with them as we have advantages they dont

Here in Cincinnati we see it all the time from the Xavier fans on social media. They refer to themselves as "big brother" and UC as "little brother"... excuse me? The X guys need to take a history lesson and become a little more self-aware. There are a lot of people in this country that could not even tell you what city the school is located in.

They are kinda full of themselves...trust me Cincy is considered the big brother among fans outside SW Ohio.

(10-30-2019 03:51 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 02:22 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 01:51 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Lol so you lost to ECU and got shown the door by Tulsa in the same year. Big East supremacy right there, even historically those programs have an overinflated sense of themselves. iIt s why Creighton and Xavier fit right in with St. John's, Seaton Hall, and now a Calhoun less UConn.


sorry huskyu

If you are insinuating that UConn isn't the same program without Calhoun, then you need to apply that logic to a Cronin-less Cincinnati and a Dunphy-less Temple as well for consistency purposes. In fact, one could also say that a Calipari-less Memphis has never been the same (Josh Pastner and Tubby proved to be fairly mediocre coaches and Hardaway hasn't played a game yet.

I feel like the UConn, Cincinnati, and Memphis brands are too strong in basketball to be limited by a single legendary coach, though. The jury is still out on Temple since the Dunphy years (while solid) still never matched the Chaney years.

St.John's and Seton Hall will likely regain some of their former glory at some point (Seton Hall could regain it this year), but I don't expect either of those programs to be 100% what they were in the 80's and 90's. Lou Carnesecca is one of the all time greats, so expecting that exact level of success from St. John's again is asking a bit much. Seton Hall can get 90% there is they can start winning again this year. As for Creighton, they have a rabid fan base but until they go further in a NCAA tournament, I don't put them at the level of a UConn, Villanova, Cincinnati, Memphis, Marquette, or even Xavier.

TBD I think...I generally agree but with the new rule that players can earn money off their likeness it is going to really benefit the medium and large metros. Medium sized will benefit if it is a one horse town (Des Moines, Louisville, Syracuse, Hartford, Omaha, Columbia, etc...) and really focuses on one or two teams.

Seton Hall and SJU with the right coach could convince some 5 stars the benefit of the Big Apple

Agreed. I am surprised that St. John's has had so many down years. They really could be special again if all the stars align. It won't hurt that having MSG as a home court and NYC as their backyard may help them sell big name recruits who want to cash in on image. NYC abounds with advertising opportunities that could benefit big time basketball players when their image is used.

As a Syracuse fan, you understand St. John's. I don't know that many AAC fans really see St. John's for their overall history and their future potential or get why UConn would want to play them over a school like Wichita or Houston (obviously geography and history are the main reasons we would). We have had many basketball battles and heated exchanges with St. John's fans and I look forward to seeing them twice every season starting next year. As great as Wichita and Houston have been, we just don't have any shared history or hatred with them in basketball (or really any AAC school minus Cincinnati and Temple). Without history and hatred, it is hard to juice up one's fan base. The AAC schools often forget that many of them shared years of history together in the SWC, CUSA, and Metro conferences. We never had that bond.

UConn, Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, St. John's, an Seton Hall are 6 of the 9 "old" Big East schools. I only wish we still had Syracuse and Pitt as part of the party (Boston College was always terrible in hoop, so they likely aren't missed by any old Big East schools). West Virginia and Notre Dame were "newer-old" schools that were good in hoop, but let's be real.... they rarely crashed our party at the Garden in March seeing as West Virginia only made the championship game twice and Notre Dame never did. Heck, Louisville was only in the league for 8 years starting in 2005, but even they made it more than either of those schools (4 times for the 'Ville).

All we need for the old Big East to be whole is for Syracuse and Pitt to come home. Not going to happen with those fat ACC paychecks, I know. That said, you must admit that you sometimes miss the old core Big East.

I miss Big East Basketball...it was something special. The Football never got its' full due and was better than most gave it credit.

We sit in the ACC now cashing big checks and getting hosed by NC Based Refs weekly. LOL

(10-30-2019 02:22 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 01:51 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Lol so you lost to ECU and got shown the door by Tulsa in the same year. Big East supremacy right there, even historically those programs have an overinflated sense of themselves. iIt s why Creighton and Xavier fit right in with St. John's, Seaton Hall, and now a Calhoun less UConn.


sorry huskyu

If you are insinuating that UConn isn't the same program without Calhoun, then you need to apply that logic to a Cronin-less Cincinnati and a Dunphy-less Temple as well for consistency purposes. In fact, one could also say that a Calipari-less Memphis has never been the same (Josh Pastner and Tubby proved to be fairly mediocre coaches and Hardaway hasn't played a game yet.

I feel like the UConn, Cincinnati, and Memphis brands are too strong in basketball to be limited by a single legendary coach, though. The jury is still out on Temple since the Dunphy years (while solid) still never matched the Chaney years.

St.John's and Seton Hall will likely regain some of their former glory at some point (Seton Hall could regain it this year), but I don't expect either of those programs to be 100% what they were in the 80's and 90's. Lou Carnesecca is one of the all time greats, so expecting that exact level of success from St. John's again is asking a bit much. Seton Hall can get 90% there is they can start winning again this year. As for Creighton, they have a rabid fan base but until they go further in a NCAA tournament, I don't put them at the level of a UConn, Villanova, Cincinnati, Memphis, Marquette, or even Xavier.

Cincinnati was more successful under Huggins and their history predates Huggins. Temple has been successful under several coaches, notably Chaney. Memphis was successful prior to Calipari, but never as successful as it was during that era. UConn on the other hand was not successful prior to Calhoun and has not been successful since. I'm not saying they won't be successful again, in fact I expect them to be successful very soon. However, of the programs mentioned the only one whose success is singularly tied to one coach is UConn.

(10-30-2019 04:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I miss Big East Basketball...it was something special. The Football never got its' full due and was better than most gave it credit.

We sit in the ACC now cashing big checks and getting hosed by NC Based Refs weekly. LOL

That would not surprise me. BE is a good bball conference but is reached zenith status with Cuse, WVU, Ville, Pitt, Cincy, ND, and the 11 bids in 2011.

(10-30-2019 04:39 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I miss Big East Basketball...it was something special. The Football never got its' full due and was better than most gave it credit.

We sit in the ACC now cashing big checks and getting hosed by NC Based Refs weekly. LOL

The zone-only D is probably more to blame.

But Kardary was a a good pick-up. Perhaps he can get you past the NC mafia.

(10-30-2019 05:03 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  Cincinnati was more successful under Huggins and their history predates Huggins. Temple has been successful under several coaches, notably Chaney. Memphis was successful prior to Calipari, but never as successful as it was during that era. UConn on the other hand was not successful prior to Calhoun and has not been successful since. I'm not saying they won't be successful again, in fact I expect them to be successful very soon. However, of the programs mentioned the only one whose success is singularly tied to one coach is UConn.

I see where you are going with it and I agree with the general premise, but you need to put it in perspective. Temple was so,ewhat successful under several coaches (notably Chaney), but Chaney never did fully climb that hill (nor did many of their other coaches). Temple last made the Final Four in 1958. Sure, they won a lot of regular season games in the A10 and went to a few Sweet 16s and Elite 8s under Chaney, but it isn't comparable to the success that Jim Calhoun had in a tougher Big East (not to mention UConn's post season successes).

Same deal with Cincinnati. They last won a national championship in 1962. Huggins took them to a Final Four and some Sweet 16s and Elite 8s (and Cronin was decent during the regular season and meh in the postseason), but that still wasn't UConn level stuff.

Memphis last made the Final Four in 1973 (as the two Final Fours after that were vacated). They have always been solid but, minus the Calipari years, have never been elite.

Jim Calhoun's successor (Kevin Ollie) won a national championship in his first year. Some will say it was with Calhoun's recruits, but it still isn't easy to accomplish. So, our "bad period" has been for a measly five years and it hasn't been bottom of the barrel bad. That is hardly something you can throw shade at UConn for seeing as nobody can gain much insight over anything based on a five year "downturn".

And UConn made the Sweet 16 in 1951, 1956, 1964, 1976 (and Elite 8 in 1964)... well before Jim Calhoun came to town in 1986.

(10-30-2019 05:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 05:03 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  Cincinnati was more successful under Huggins and their history predates Huggins. Temple has been successful under several coaches, notably Chaney. Memphis was successful prior to Calipari, but never as successful as it was during that era. UConn on the other hand was not successful prior to Calhoun and has not been successful since. I'm not saying they won't be successful again, in fact I expect them to be successful very soon. However, of the programs mentioned the only one whose success is singularly tied to one coach is UConn.

I see where you are going with it and I agree with the general premise, but you need to put it in perspective. Temple was so,ewhat successful under several coaches (notably Chaney), but Chaney never did fully climb that hill (nor did many of their other coaches). Temple last made the Final Four in 1958. Sure, they won a lot of regular season games in the A10 and went to a few Sweet 16s and Elite 8s under Chaney, but it isn't comparable to the success that Jim Calhoun had in a tougher Big East (not to mention UConn's post season successes).

Same deal with Cincinnati. They last won a national championship in 1962. Huggins took them to a Final Four and some Sweet 16s and Elite 8s (and Cronin was decent during the regular season and meh in the postseason), but that still wasn't UConn level stuff.

Memphis last made the Final Four in 1973 (as the two Final Fours after that were vacated). They have always been solid but, minus the Calipari years, have never been elite.

Jim Calhoun's successor (Kevin Ollie) won a national championship in his first year. Some will say it was with Calhoun's recruits, but it still isn't easy to accomplish. So, our "bad period" has been for a measly five years and it hasn't been bottom of the barrel bad. That is hardly something you can throw shade at UConn for seeing as nobody can gain much insight over anything based on a five year "downturn".

And UConn made the Sweet 16 in 1951, 1956, 1964, 1976 (and Elite 8 in 1964)... well before Jim Calhoun came to town in 1986.

Ollie won his in his 2nd year as head coach.

(10-31-2019 02:42 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 05:41 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(10-30-2019 05:03 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  Cincinnati was more successful under Huggins and their history predates Huggins. Temple has been successful under several coaches, notably Chaney. Memphis was successful prior to Calipari, but never as successful as it was during that era. UConn on the other hand was not successful prior to Calhoun and has not been successful since. I'm not saying they won't be successful again, in fact I expect them to be successful very soon. However, of the programs mentioned the only one whose success is singularly tied to one coach is UConn.

I see where you are going with it and I agree with the general premise, but you need to put it in perspective. Temple was so,ewhat successful under several coaches (notably Chaney), but Chaney never did fully climb that hill (nor did many of their other coaches). Temple last made the Final Four in 1958. Sure, they won a lot of regular season games in the A10 and went to a few Sweet 16s and Elite 8s under Chaney, but it isn't comparable to the success that Jim Calhoun had in a tougher Big East (not to mention UConn's post season successes).

Same deal with Cincinnati. They last won a national championship in 1962. Huggins took them to a Final Four and some Sweet 16s and Elite 8s (and Cronin was decent during the regular season and meh in the postseason), but that still wasn't UConn level stuff.

Memphis last made the Final Four in 1973 (as the two Final Fours after that were vacated). They have always been solid but, minus the Calipari years, have never been elite.

Jim Calhoun's successor (Kevin Ollie) won a national championship in his first year. Some will say it was with Calhoun's recruits, but it still isn't easy to accomplish. So, our "bad period" has been for a measly five years and it hasn't been bottom of the barrel bad. That is hardly something you can throw shade at UConn for seeing as nobody can gain much insight over anything based on a five year "downturn".

And UConn made the Sweet 16 in 1951, 1956, 1964, 1976 (and Elite 8 in 1964)... well before Jim Calhoun came to town in 1986.

Ollie won his in his 2nd year as head coach.

True. In my head, his second year always seems like his first year since in his actual first year he was hampered by NCAA penalties and his guys couldn't actually play for anything.

So, it was his second year as a coach technically, but his first year with an opportunity to play in the NCAA tourney.

Seton Hall.