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Temple is recruiting players who played well in high school but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be good playing Division 1 college player, which is a step-up. Clear Temple not recruiting freshmen recruits that high majors have evaluated as being potentially impact college player. That’s understandable given Temple’s poor showing last season.

And Temple not retaining the good players they had also gives one to some cause for concern.

It’s apparent that McKie being a former NBA player has not been enough in itself to attract high level players. But do believe we’ll see this year some good Temple freshmen signees who are better than their listed ratings. But difficult to see Temple turning around it’s program till McKie can demonstrate he can recruit a few impact recruits.

And one wants to see growth in players and for McKie to show he can bring out the best in the players he has.
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Granger claimed on on Temple’s Men’s BB Message Board that McKie should not again play Dunphy’s style of basketball in conference play. In fact, Mckie did not play Dunphy’s style of basketball.

As Dunphy, In order insure that Temple had more scoring opportunities than opponents did, made sure that Temple made less turnovers and created more turnovers than opponents did. He accomplished by having players who committed the least turnovers distribut the ball, and had players go for more steals.

Under McKie, Temple committed more turnovers than opponents did, as he had Rose, who committed turnovers at a high turnover rate, be primarily for distributing the ball, and had NPL, Temple’s best ball stealer the season before, go for less steals and make less steals, than the season before.

Dunphy also avoided having his worse shooters take Temple’s most shots. McKie did the opposite by having both Rose and NPL, both poor shooters take Temple’s most shots. Even more so, as HC McKie had Dre Perry average but four shots per game when he was among the conference’s best shooters shooting 2’s and 3-point shots, and compounded that by playing Moorman, a poor shooter last season, over Perry.

Also clear that Temple not playing Dunphy’s style of play as most returning players shot worse than the serious season.

So, Temple did not play Dunphy’s style of basketball last season.
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In conference play last season, Jake Forrester averaged turning the ball over once every 12.6 minutes compared to Damion Moore who averaged turning the ball over once every 21 minutes. Jake Forrester also averaged committing a foul once every 6.5 minutes of play compared to Damion Moore who averaged committing a foul once every 10 minutes.

The number of turnovers and fouls Forrester committed when playing resulted in opponent points that almost equaled the 6 points Forrester averaged playing 16 minutes per game in conference play.

So, one can readily see that Jake Forrester needs to greatly reduce both his turnovers and fouls.

But also concerning is the fact that Forrester only plays in the low-post in Temple’s half-court offense. Even though Forrester shot ok in the low-post, overall such hurt Temple’s overall offense as when played it’s low post offense, it deterred players like Rose, NPL, and Scott, from going to the hoop as much as they should have and from where they scored well, due to the paint being cluttered.

This season, Temple may be better off playing Moorman in Forrester’s stead, as Moorman can spread the court if he shoots and makes three’s as he did his sophomore year. That will also open up driving lanes for Temple’s new players.

Also, advanced stats showed that Temple gave up fewer points with Moorman playing than they did with Forrester playing.
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I have discussed here what a player does right and wrong on the court, but rarely discuss how Temple coaches should have maximized a player’s strengths or hidden his weaknesses more then the did. And if they had done so Temple would have scored more points and opponents less in any given game. It’s what I intend to write more about this season after seeing the skill sets of this Temple squad. Hopefully, it will be helpful when you as fan watch a game.

It’s very important for coaches to bring out the strengths of a player and to hide his weaknesses.

Let’s take Rose as an example. He’s an extraordinary 6’8” very athletic player which one hardly ever see’s. His offensive strength was driving to the rim and scoring going to foul-line. His weakness was shooting 2 and 3-point jump shots.

As such, his strengths should have been maximized and his weaknesses hidden. But such didn’t occur last season as McKie had Rose highlight his weaknesses as Rose took Temple’ most 2 and 3-point jumps shots. Rose made only 26.9 percent of his two-point jump shots as he took 172 two-point jump shots, and made only 42 for the season.

Rose made only 27 percent of his three’s taking 124 three’s and making just 34 of them for the season.

Given that Temple’s opponents were shooting 46.3 percent on two’s, and 31 percent on three’s, Rose taking Temple most two point and three-point jump shots makes no sense especially since Temple had better three point shooters in Perry and A.Moore who shot three’s at a much higher rate than Temple’s opponents did. And Temple had Scott who shot 2-point jumpers at a much higher rate than Temple’s opponents, and a number of players who shot two point jumpers better than Rose.

Rose shot extremely well at the rim shooting 56.9 percent by taking a 154 shots at the rim and making 86 of them, plus he went to the foul-line approximate three times per game on being fouled most at the rim. He shot a respectable 79.2 percent at the foul-line.

As we can readily see, Rose should have taken far fewer two and three-point jump shots, and g Rose should have driven to the hoop way more than he did, and shot fewer two and three point jump shots. He probably should have posted-up his shorter opponents and driven to the rim.

Also, having Rose pressure opponents more would have led to steals and easy lay-ups at the other end.

The same analysis applies to NPL as well. But NPL was a little wiser than Rose, as most of his shots (145) were at the rim, and he took far fewer two-point jumpers (68) that he shot at only 26.5 percent, and he took 67 three’s that he shot them at 25.4 percent. As we can readily see, he should have gone to the rim more, and other Temple players should have been shooting his two and three-point jump shots.


One can only hope that Temple coaches in practice scrimmages access each player’s strength and weaknesses and implements this season an offense that maximizes each player’s strength and attempts to hide his weaknesses.
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Alani Moore is a player who this past season who shot mostly three’s and shot them very well. As last season, he averaged 5.4 three’s per gamec, and converted them at 39.8 percent. I have argued that HC McKie should have created even more plays so he could shoot even more three’s.

I also argued that he shouldn’t have even averaged taking 1.7 two’s per game as he shot them at only 28.3 percent.

Other’s have said that since Alani is only 5’10”” that it was impossible to for him to shoot more three’s.

I would just point-out that Marquis Nowell, a 5’7” player from NYC, who plays for Little Rock, Arkansas. Last season, he averaged taking 7 three’s per game, and shot them at 39.1 percent.

So, Alani Moore should have taken nore three-point shots.
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While Temple would have had a nice winning record last season, McKie if didn’t highlight players weaknesses and not highlight players strengths, Temple’s losing record would have been even worse as other conference HC’s seemed oblivious as well, as they highlighted their player weaknesses and did not highlight their strengths as well. For Temple’s sake, can only hope that McKie becomes enlightened and that other teams remain in the dark this season.

To put it another way, the college game is behind the times, and has not used analytics as some teams in the NBA have.
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Temple alumni have yearned for a return to the Don Chaney Temple era when Temple were regularly went to the BCAA tournament, and played well there.

They tired of HC’s Fran Dunphy’s Temple teams going to the NCAA tournament and being ousted early on. For alumni, Temple repeatedly having 20-win season’s was no substitute for lack of success in the NCAA tournament.

So they supported a change in the HC position and got it when Aaron McKie, former Temple star player who had a stellar career in the NBA, and helped guide Temple to winning seasons as an assistant Temple coach under Dunphy was named HC.

But Temple’s fortunes quickly declined in his first yearas even though Dunphy left McKie with a well-stocked roster and new incoming players, Temple went from having a 23-10 record under Dunphy to finishing with a 14-17 record under McKie.

Since then McKie has emptied the cupboard and has started virtually anew by brining in new and inexperienced players. Such is a high stakes roll of the dice, especially since both prognosticators nor Temple fans know the quality of these new players. Prognosticators have picked Temple to finish in the bottom tier in conference play.

Temple’s program has been referred to as being in a “rebuilding” phase. That phrase has little meaning as know one knows the quality of the players coming in. For me, McKie has demolished Temple’s bb house and is rebuilding it with not as good materials. As one can say with some confidence that Temple’s roster overall won’t be as good as last season, and as such, Temple men’s bb has taken one step backwards.

Will later explore if Temple has the right architect to been build a good bb program.

One can’t say with any confidence when Temple will have even have a foundation to build upon, noless to once again reach having a 20-win season or be invited to the NCAA tournament
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Granger has argued on Temple’s Men’s Bb Message Board that Mckie’s got Temple off to a good start last season but injuries to NPL, Dunn, and D.Moore, led to Temple doing poorly in subsequent non-conference play.

First it should be noted that D.Dunn and D.Moore had nothing to do with Temple getting off to a good start as D.Dunn didn’t play then, and D.Dunn played only 16 minutes thin one game the whole season. D.Moore played in only 4 non conference games and scored but a total of four hoops. Secondly , NPL never blamed his eye injury as effecting his play. Stats showed he shot well in only a few games the whole season, and the few hoops he scored he did have in a few games was when he scored lay-ups off of a lot of steals early on in the season, or if Temple ran as they did in the St.Josephs game. The fact that he shot better at the foul-line this past season than the year before should put to rest his having a sustained eye problem as being responsible for his not shooting well. Also, NPL only wore goggles in a few games.

Temple had success early on in non-conference play because Mckieclnhad Temple pressure the ball and many players shot well. But once he had Temple abandon playing a pressure defense in conference play, and allowed Rose and NPL, his worse shooters in half-court sets to dominate shooting, and coupled that by playing both Moorman and Forrester over Perry, and not playing Scott more, resulted in Temple playing poorly in conference play. McKie was oblivious to changes he needed to make in the starting line-up.

Oddly, Granger also writes that Temple players were mentally down after after it’s double overtime loss to UConn, and that’s why Temple lost it’s last 5 last conference after the UConn loss. Not true, as Temple beat UConn in double overtime, and the five losses were do to McKie not learning anything from the UConn win. Clearly Granger is not watching Temple’s bb games on tv.
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Mckie’s coaching was glaringly bad in conference play last season as he demonstrated no ability to adjust and correct the mistakes he was making.

Dre Perry is a good example. He was Temple’s best offensive player and a very good defensive player. Perry played outstanding bb as he shot 56.9 percent on two’s, and 41 percent on three’s. His shooting percentages cried out for Perry to be played 34 mpg and for him to average 19 ppg, any McKie having him shoot the ball at least once every 2.5 minutes. Instead, Perry only averaged only 6 ppg as McKie chose to play Perry only 17 mpg and have him shoot but once every four minutes.

To make matters worse, McKie chose the to play Moorman way more than Perry, even though he was nowhere near the player Perry was on either side of the ball. McKie at no time recognized that he should have been playing playing more and Moorman less.

Nor did he recognize that Scott was Temple’s best two point shooter at 62 percent when played at least 26 minutes after conference play started, and he was a contributing factor in 4 of the 6 games Temple won in conference games.

McKie hurt Temple by playing Scout less than 20 minutes in many conference games. Yet, he still managed to shoot 54.7 percent in two’s in the conference games he played in.

Since Scott didn’t shoot three’s well last season, McKie should have told Scott to shoot more two’s as he shot them extremely well, and not to shoot more than three three’s in a game unless he made one of the first three’s he made.

And even though Scott and Perry were Temple’s best two point shooter, Mckie’s had both Rose and NPL, Temple’s worse two-points shooters shoot the ball way more than Scott and Perry did. It was simply a crime to limit Perry to taking just four fga’s per game. Both Scott and Perry could have helped Temple this up-coming season. Now Scott’s gone.

An open question this upcoming season is who will be Temple’s best players, and will McKie not make the same mistakes as he did last year. McKie deserves some slack as last season was his first year as HC, although I see no reason for optimism.

Do hope that Perry is moved into the limelight this season. Should have happened last season. year. Do believe that freshman Quincy A. will be a very good shooter as will sophomore D.Dunn and other players. Time for Moorman to play as well as he did his first two years playing for Temple.
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Temple will play Villanova on December 3rd.
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While I’ve said that this year’s Temple squad is not as good overall as last year’s roster, I don’t mean to imply that that this year’s team is destined to play as bad or worse than Temple played last season.

In fact, I have repeatedly pointed out that last year’s team would have performed much better than they did but for Mckie not playing mostly small ball, and instead decided to play big. That resulted in Temple playing the wrong players at certain positions. He coupled that by having Temple’s worse shooters take the most shots.

It’s my belief this Temple team has the potential to be a top 5 AAC team if Mckie decided to play small ball and have Temple’s best shooters shoot the ball. The later not being a radical concept. It should be noted Temple does have some real good shooters. Few other AAC opponents can say that.

In order to accomplish such attainable goal, Mckie’s has to first come to the realization that when he played tall ball last season with a starting big at center in games that Temple only scored around thirty points in the first half, and often found itself trailing at the half in conference games.

Second, he needs to realize that when he played small ball in the second half a few times as a desperation attempt close the scoring gap, and it worked. As we witnessed in Temple’s come from behind wins over SMU at home and Tulane on the road. The conclusion he should have drawn, but didn’t, is that small ball works, and playing big ball produced Temple losses.

And the reason slall ball works is because modern bb is based on spreading the floor, and thus scoring from the three-point line, and opening lanes for all players to drive to the hoop and shoot a high percentage, a good percentage, or get fouled and get to the foul line where most players shoot an even higher percentage.

Instead, Mckie chose to start and play Forrester, a big, who both cluttered up the low post cutting off driving lanes for other players. He kept Rose, NPL, Scott, all terrific drivers who shot over 50 percent at the rim from getting to the rim as much as they should have. He forced both Rose and NPL both sub 30 percent 2-point jump shooters to shoot far too many 2-point jump shots than they should have. If fact, just about every play did.

Forrester compounded that when he had possession of the ball by excessively turning the ball over, and on defense fouling excessively as well. He also shot two-point jump shots poorly. Such was a recipe for disaster as his advance stats show that Temple was outscored by a wider margin by opponents when he played than any other Temple player who played.

In the following post, I will point out who in my judgment should be starting and why Temple will be capable of scoring way more points per game then they did last season.
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I indicated in my last post that Temple had a chance to finish among the top 5 teams in the AAC if Temple plays small ball on offense, spreads the court, andTemple has it’s most efficient shooters take the most fga's. I’m not predicting that Temple will finish in the AAC’s top five as I doubt HC Mcke will follow my suggestions.

I also said that I would indicate in this post which players should be Temple’ most efficient scorers

Last season, Temple’s top scorers were Rose at 16.4 ppg, NPL at 10.9 ppg, Forrester at 7.5 ppg, A.Moore at 8 ppg, and Scott at 7.2 ppg.

As we can readily see Rose averaged way more points than any other Temple player.

I fully expect freshman Quincy A. to replace Rose as one of Temple’s two wings and match Rose’s scoring. In podcast interviews with coaches and players alike, all have described Quincy A. as a deadly 2 and 3-point shooter.

I would also replace Moorman who averaged 5.8 points st PF with Dre Perry as Temple’s starting PF, and should be played 34 mpg, since he was the AAC leading PF’s shooting 2’s at 59 percent, and 3 pointers at 41 percent, and also shot 85 percent at the foul line last season. I fully expect him to lead Temple in scoring if encouraged to do so and to finish as one of the AAC’s best players. He will be a huge upgrade at the PF position.

Can see Perry averaging 18 ppg if he shoots often, even if his shooting percentages are slightly down.

NPL averaged only 10.6 ppg playing 33 mpg because he shot poorly He likely be replaced by sophomore D.Dunn who was one of the nation’s best HS 2-point shooting guards in the nation. And if transfer K.Battle is declared eligible to play, he would provide Temple with an additional wing who could challenge either Dunn or Quincy A. For playing time. Coaches have reported that he’s shot the ball well in practices.

I’m suggesting that Moorman replace Forrester in the starting line-up, with Moorman playing either in the high post or perimeter, and to shoot three’s which would open up the floor for other Temple to score more points. Temple scored more points and gave up less points when Moorman played than when Forrester played. As such, it’s somewhat irrelevant how many points Moorman scores. Don’t want to see Forrester cluttering the front court and making it difficult for Quincy A., D.Dunn, Perry, and Moorman to drive to the hoop.

One hopes that Moorman returns to shooting three’s as well as he did his freshman and sophomore seasons.

At PG, Temple lost hot three-point shooter Alani Moore. When healthy, i’m confident that T.Strickland can replace A.Moore’s three-point shooting if he takes as many 3-point shots as Moore did. Playing for Wisconsin, he mistakenly shot more 2’s than 3’s, and shot 2’s poorly. Hope that doesn’t happen at Temple.

Till Strickland returns, the PG position will be likely manned by freshman J. Williams. While I haven’t seen him play, I suspect his ability to steal the ball and score in the open court, and will allow him to score as well as A.Moore did. Also, at 6’5,” his aggressive defense should lower opponents scoring.

Freshman J.White at 6’7” also adds height in the backcourt as well as the front court.

Freshman Nick Jourdain provides Temple with another big who can play outside and stretches the floor. He’s also known as a good passer and did average 19 ppg in prep school.

With Temple having at least four good shooters in Perry, Quincy A, D. Dunn, and Strickland, Temple will be stronger than last season, and if Battle can play and shoots well, Temple will have depth as it did last season.

If transfer Sage Tolbert receives a waiver to play, he’ll bring rebounding to Temple.

My main concern is whether excessive turnovers will occur, and hurt Temple’s potential offense. An early offense should cut-down on Temple turnovers, and Temple playing a pressure defense will result in steals that would offset Temple’s turnovers.
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In a previous post, I not only pointed out that not only were Rose and NPL poor two-point jump shooters last season, but also that many other AAC teams have poor 2-point jump shooters as well.

Houston’s guard Caleb Mills, Cincinnati’s guard Keith Williams, and Tulsa’s guard Brandon Rachel are all examples of players who shoot 2-point jump shots poorly.

As last season, Caleb Mills took 48 percent of all his fga’s as two point jump shots and shot them at only 33 percent (50-180). Keith Williams shot only 34.2 percent (26-76) on two point jump shots. Brandon Rachel shot but 33.3 percent ( 23- 101) on 2-point jump shots.

All three are named in pre-season AAC’s first team, and both aren’t examples of why other AAC’s teams are not stocked with good two-point jump shooters.the only decent first team all-conference prospect 2-point jump shooter is SMU’s Kendrick Davis who shot 44. 3 percent (43-97) on2-point jump shots.

Departed Temple guard Monty Scott was the conference’s best as he shot 44.2 percent on two-point jump shots last season, and above 60 percent in conference play,

Temple’s Quincy A. and D.Dunn both will be in Temple’s rotation. I predict both will be better two point jump shooters than both Mills and Mitchell. That’s not to say that both Mills and Mitchell are not better players than both Quincy A and D. Dunn in other offensive categories. We’ll get to see for ourselves.

But can’t say enough about how good it is that this season Temple will likely have in starting line-up two or three good shooters, compared to last season when A.Moore was the only good shooter in starting line-up. season.

Projected pre-season all-conference players Mills and Mitchell’s poor shooting on two-point jump shots, is evidence that Temple fans should not be mesmerized by other AAC teams. Before making judgments about this Temple squad, until we see them play. I do believe that McKie has good new talent to work with, and they will be joining Dre Perry, one of the AAC’s best shooters, who is on no prognosticator’s radar.
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The more I watch videos Temple 2021 recruits Hysier Miller and Zack Hicks the more I’m impresses with their play. While previously I thought they were both solid players, have come around to the belief both can from the get-go be impact players For Temple. Will be much easier floor McKie to coach when next season’s class joins this year’s class of good shooters.

As for this season, I just don’t want to see Forrester in Temple’s starting line-up unless his excessive turnovers and fouls are a thing of the past.

Nor do I want to see Moorman start unless he can shoot the three well or is playing in place of Forrester alongside Perry.

The two must players I want to see inYemple’s starting line-up are Perry and Quincy A, and for both of them to be Temple’s leading scorers.
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I would really like to know when Temple submitted paperwork seeking NCAA waivers for transfers K.Battle and Sage Tolbert to play this season. Seems most other conference team’s have received waiver decisions from the NCAA already.

Did hear that JPL is enrolled at UC Santa Barbara and that Temple has delayed getting his transfer paperwork to the NCAA. Not good.
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This past season I’ve been on a journey to figure out what can be learned to from last year to help Temple hopefully perform better this season.

And while i’ve been highly critical of HC Mckie, at times, he showed he was a brilliant coach. He did that when he played small ball by playing A.Moore, Nate, Scott and Rose together. When he did so, Temple scored more points and gave up fewer points than they did when other combination of players were on the court. We saw this in Temple’s wins over SMU, Tulane, and UConn.

Temple played small ball In the second half of the SMU game and outscored SMU 49-32. Against Tulane, playing small ball, Temple outscored Tulane 44-33 in the second half. Temple played mostly small against UConn, the AAC’s hottest team at the time, and held Uconn to 69 points in regulation, before beating UConn in double overtime.

This upcoming season, Temple best small ball line-up may well be Moorman, Perry, Tracy A, D.Dunn, and j.Wiiams. What I like about this line-up is that Perry, Quincy A., and D. Dunn are much better shooters than Rose and NPL. It’s time for Perry to be a top scorer. Am hoping that Perry Williams, Quincy A. and Perry and Dunn can get to the hoop and score close to what Rose and NPL. Perry shot 72 percent at the rim last season.

If Perry and Quincy A. each average taking at least 7 three’s per game, and hit the at a high rate, Temple will be a force in the conference to be reckoned with. Strickland is an excellent three point shooter as well, and was Moorman in the prior season.

Hopefujly, transfer K. Battle will be declared eligible to play.

Williams will be a better defender than A.Moore at the PG position. Moorman is a better defender than Forrester, and Perry is a better defender than Moorman is. I have a question mark as to whether D.Dunn is a particularly good defender.

With NPl’s departure, it will take a team effort for everyone to see out defensive rebounds. Can see D.Dunn being Temple’s best rebounder.

Last season, the AAC did not have many good shooting guards. This is reflected by the fact that but one conference team managed to even average 70 points per game in conference play, when the season before quite a few teams did. I’ve pointed out in previous posts how guards are being named as pre-season all conference teams who are not good 2-point jump shooters. Conference teams saw their 3 and 2-point shooting percentages decline this past season from the prior season. Temple’s conference opponents shot their 2’s at a lower rate against Temple then they did the prior year.

This past season Rose and NPL had better defensive stats than they did the prior season. It’s my opinion, such was so not because they played better defense as both made less steals than they did in the prior season, but rather because opponent guards were not as good shooting the ball as they were in prior season’s.

A number of the few good shooting AAC guards have transferred out or graduated. On the other hand, Temple is going in a positive direction by having good shooting guards joining it’s rotation.
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Temple shot more two’s in conference play then their opponents. But because opponents shot 47.6 percent on two compared to Temple’s 43.6 percent, conference opponents made 1.2 more 2’s per game than Temple did.Temple needs to close the gap. One way is to shoot two’s at higher rate.

That’s quite a drop in Temple’s two- point shooting from the previous season when in conference play Temple shot 49.8 percent on 2’s. If Temple had done that this season in conference games, Temple would have won more games since Temple would have shot 2’s at a higher percentage than conference opponents. Such was virtually do to McKie allowing both Rose and NPL to take Temple’s most two’s, shoot them at a low rate, when both Perry and Scott were far better shooters shooting 2’s.

Departed players Rose, NPL, and A.Moore (took less than 2-2’s per game) all shot 2’s at a below 43.5 percent. Rose and NPL took Temple’s most two’s averaging 17.6 two’s per game. It’s because of Rose and NPL’s poor two point shooting, I advocated for both Perry and Scott, both good two point shooters to both play and shoot more.

As Perry shot 2’s at 56 percent in conference palsy, and with Perry expected to get substantial playing time this season and shoot more, and should offset in part the departure of Scott who shot 54.7 per cent on two’s in conference play.

Rose shot two’s at 38 percent that included shooting two-point jumpers at only 26.9 percent.

Perry shot 72 percent at the rim although most were off of put-backs, and not off drives to the hoop. I believe Perry can be a force taking it to the hoop, and should do so more in practices and in games. He was smart taking few two two-point jump shots as he didn’t shoot them well. Was told by a former high school teammate that he had a nice mid-range jump shot in HS.

With the departure of Rose, NPL, A.Moore, JPL and Scott, an open question is whether Quincy A, D.Dunn, J Williams, and possibly K. Battle, will increase Temple’s shooting on 2’s due to the loss of Rose, NPL, Alani Moore, and Scott?

Players score better at the hoop than they do on two-point jump shots.,Even though like most players, Rose shot well at the hoop and not so on 2-point jump shots, yet Rose took slightly less drives to hoop than 2-point point jump shots. NPL widely took over twice as many drives to the hoop than 2-point jump shots.

Rose shot 55.9 percent at the hoop and only 26.9 percent at the rim. NPL shot 52 percent at the rim and 27 percent on 2-point jump shots.

It’s rare that players shoot over 45 percent on two-point jump shots. Scott shot 44.7 percent on 2-point jump shots for the season, and over 60 percent when he played 26 minutes or more in conference games. Miami Heat’s Tyler Herro shot 46.7 percent on two-point jump shots at Kentucky. Scott will be missed.

Both Quincy A. and D.Dunn are both good two point jump shooters. Hopefully both can shoot over 40 percent on two-0point jumpmshot. Their 2-point 2-point percentages may well depend on their ability to score at the rim which is unknown.

I’ve been looking at how some of the AAC’s guards shot 2’s their freshman year. Most shot them from anywhere from 38 percent to 53 percent, with most shooting on the lower end, However, JPL did shoot 50 percent on two’s mainly because of his ability to score at the hoop ( Made but .6 two’s per game).

I’m optimistic given that both D.Dunn and Quincy A are far better 2-point jump shooters than both Rose and NPL, that Temple’s recruits will shoot more than 43.8 percent as Temple shot on 2’s as team, even if both don’t score at the rim as often as Rose and NPL did.
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Temple has an opportunity to make inroads in improving both it’s three point shooting percentage and number of three’s it made.

Last season, Temple shot three’s at 33 percent in conference play and ranked second in best three point shooting. Conference opponents shot 31.5 percent on three’s, and opponents took 1.9 more three’s than Temple did. Temple ranked 10th in the conference in number of three’s taken. Because Temple shot a higher percentage on three’s, Temple’s opponents only scored .6 more three’s per conference game than Temple did.

In 18 conference games, Temple took 52 free three’s than opponents did. It made no sense that Temple’s opponents made 11 more three’s than Temple did given that Temple shot a higher shooting percentage and shot a far lower percentage then opponents on two’s Temple could of used those extra three pointers made and would have also benefited by shooting fewer two’s., Temple took

Dre Perry’s, Temple’s best returning three point shooter at 41 percent for the season, and 34 percent in conference play returns.His being injured during conference play probably drove his shooting percentage down somewhat.

Departing three point shooters are A.Moore who shot 42.3 percent on three’s in conference play, JPL who shot 41.7 percent (took but just 1.4 per game), Rose and NPL each shot 31 percent, Moorman’s 26.5 percent and Scott shot 23 percent.

Perry playing just 17 mpg, took but just 2.5 three’s per game. More than half his shots were three’s. In order for Temple to ‘s ore more three’s than last last season, one can only hope that he doubles his playing time and rave rages 15 fga’s per game, and that he averages taking 8 three’s per game (Alston averaged 8.7 three’s per conference game the prior year) he will almost cover A.Moire’s 4.7 three’s, and JPL 1.4 three per conference game. Such is a lofty goal, but necessary if Temple is to be competitive.

Temple would have won more games if Perry had played and shot more three’s and two’s, and more plays had been created for A.Moore to shoot more three’s.

One can only hope that Moorman shoots three’s at 41 percent like he did the previous season and not at 26,6 percent he did this past season in conference play.


Quincy A. and T.Strickland are very good three point shooters. Dunn and Battle also shoot three. They will all be needed needed to exceed the combined 9.0 three’s shot by Rose (4.1) NPL (1.9) and Scott (3.0), and shoot three’s ata higher percentage as they did. Hopefully, Battle will be declared eligible to play. The sooner Strickland returns the better.

Do know that freshmen J. Williams and J.White shoot three’s, but don’t know their proficiency . shooting three’s. Do expect Quincy A to join Dre Perry as Temple’s best shooters. Do hope that Quincy A takes 15 fga’s per game as well, with 40 percent of them as three's. Do see Temple having a path to both shoot and make more three’s, and to shoot them at a higher percentage than last season.

With Temple players not likely to score at the hoop as often nor get to the foul-line on drives as the result of players being fouled on drives to the hoop, Temple needs to shoot it’s two-point jump shots better and make more three’s this upcoming season

I’ve updated my previous post on Temple’s two-point shooting.
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Temple committed 1.7 more fouls per game than it’s opponents in conference games. Even so, Temple shot 1.7 more foul shots per game than their conference opponents did.

Rose, Nate, and Scott got to the foul-line the most often. They have all departed. It’s unknown how often Temple’s new players will get to the foul line, but I suspect Temple will make far fewer trips to the foul-line. One can hope that’s Quincy A and J. are good both scoring and getting fouled at the hoop. Do think that both Perry and Moorman are able to drive to the hoop as well.

Temple’s opponents probably took fewer foul shots than Temple because Temple did not acommit 7 fouls in a half as often, and thus avoided giving opponents an additional penalty foul shot, and also less often fouling opponent shooters.

Yet, Temple scored a little more than point per game in conference games than opponents did. Would have been more but for opponents shooting a higher percentage from the foul-line.

Departing Temple shooters who shot poorly from the the foul-line are Hamilton, D.Moore, and JPL None played played significant minutes.

Poor foul shooters returning are Forrester and Parks. Forrester committed a foul once every 6.25 minutes he was on the court; Parks every once per 4.14 minutes. Both need to drastically reduce their excessive fouling. As Temple will also likely need to offset it’s new players not getting to the foul-line as much, they to not have as many players who are good getting to the hoop and being fouled.

Temple players who departed who committed excessive fouls include Hamilton, D.Moore, and JPL.

Departed players who committed few fouls include. A.Moore, Rose, NPL and Scott.

Whether Temple’s new players excessively foul remain to be seen. Suspect that some freshman who foul less in their second.
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