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UNC on the hotseat again?
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UNC created their Matthew Gfeller Sport-Related Traumatic Brain Injury Research Center. Data from which was used by the NCAA and NFL in forming policies on TBI.

UNC failed to disclose subjects with learning disabilities (LD) like ADHD. The medications used to treat LDs affects cognitive function and therefore, skews test results.

NCAA chief medical officer, Brian Hainline,“...the prevalence of ADHD in student-athletes and elite athletes may be 7% – 8%.” At UNC that number was 39%.

Quote:“If that’s an accurate number, that (does) seem high to me,” says Hainline, a neurologist. “‘Cause it’s unusual for ADHD or LD to somehow just manifest in college. It almost always has manifest already in high school, very often in grade school. It’s unusual just for it to start in college.”

Quote:An overwhelming majority of the athletes tested between 2004 and 2012 were diagnosed with ADD, LD or ADHD for the first time at Chapel Hill.

The medicines used to tread LD are considered PEDs by the NCAA and are banned unless used for treating LDs.
10-13-2019 08:07 AM
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Uhhh… based on "prior experience", I doubt that this even makes a ripple in the water.
10-13-2019 08:14 AM
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The Pittsburgh basketball team is gonna pay for this.

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10-13-2019 04:31 PM
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The death penalty for GT basketball.
10-13-2019 09:09 PM
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(10-13-2019 09:09 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  The death penalty for GT basketball.

too late!
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(10-13-2019 08:07 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Link

UNC created their Matthew Gfeller Sport-Related Traumatic Brain Injury Research Center. Data from which was used by the NCAA and NFL in forming policies on TBI.

UNC failed to disclose subjects with learning disabilities (LD) like ADHD. The medications used to treat LDs affects cognitive function and therefore, skews test results.

NCAA chief medical officer, Brian Hainline,“...the prevalence of ADHD in student-athletes and elite athletes may be 7% – 8%.” At UNC that number was 39%.

Quote:“If that’s an accurate number, that (does) seem high to me,” says Hainline, a neurologist. “‘Cause it’s unusual for ADHD or LD to somehow just manifest in college. It almost always has manifest already in high school, very often in grade school. It’s unusual just for it to start in college.”

Quote:An overwhelming majority of the athletes tested between 2004 and 2012 were diagnosed with ADD, LD or ADHD for the first time at Chapel Hill.

The medicines used to tread LD are considered PEDs by the NCAA and are banned unless used for treating LDs.

So what's the problem? UNC's data in the testing is off because 39% were on ADD, LD or ADHD medication.

Or UNC is guilty of providing PEDs to their athletes under the guise of ADD, LD or ADHD medication?

I tend to agree with other posters. This won't make a ripple. Now if GT did this, they'd lose 15 years worth of victories, lose 4 scholarships for 4 years and be on probation until another trumped up charge can be assigned but for UNC nothing will happen.
10-14-2019 12:14 AM
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(10-14-2019 12:14 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(10-13-2019 08:07 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Link

UNC created their Matthew Gfeller Sport-Related Traumatic Brain Injury Research Center. Data from which was used by the NCAA and NFL in forming policies on TBI.

UNC failed to disclose subjects with learning disabilities (LD) like ADHD. The medications used to treat LDs affects cognitive function and therefore, skews test results.

NCAA chief medical officer, Brian Hainline,“...the prevalence of ADHD in student-athletes and elite athletes may be 7% – 8%.” At UNC that number was 39%.

Quote:“If that’s an accurate number, that (does) seem high to me,” says Hainline, a neurologist. “‘Cause it’s unusual for ADHD or LD to somehow just manifest in college. It almost always has manifest already in high school, very often in grade school. It’s unusual just for it to start in college.”

Quote:An overwhelming majority of the athletes tested between 2004 and 2012 were diagnosed with ADD, LD or ADHD for the first time at Chapel Hill.

The medicines used to tread LD are considered PEDs by the NCAA and are banned unless used for treating LDs.

So what's the problem? UNC's data in the testing is off because 39% were on ADD, LD or ADHD medication.

Or UNC is guilty of providing PEDs to their athletes under the guise of ADD, LD or ADHD medication?

I tend to agree with other posters. This won't make a ripple. Now if GT did this, they'd lose 15 years worth of victories, lose 4 scholarships for 4 years and be on probation until another trumped up charge can be assigned but for UNC nothing will happen.

The only way the NCAA will ever clean up athletics is to give UNC the death penalty in all sports.
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10-14-2019 09:35 AM
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RE: UNC on the hotseat again?
Carolina has been cheating like Hell since the 1930's, but so have a lot of others. The morons are the ones that play by the rules and then fess up when caught.

I suspect that nearly all of Carolina's football players and a good chunk of male and female basketball, soccer, field hockey and others will test at some point along those scales. Yes there is a cottage industry in Durham that tests to get you accomodations, but having known some of these folks first hand, they needed accomodations because the had no attention span. Normally kids like this go to Community College. The perk is not the PED's, it's 50% more time on a test, a discreete test setting, and sometimes a ringer takes your test. Carolina did this in the 60's, 70's, and 80's as well.

At NC State, State was proud to flunk out a kid that did not belong in school - which way is fair?

Never trust Carolina research done on itself. Don't trust Duke's either. Their IRB boards hold a great deal of political sway in regards to not embarassing their own students and their own methods. I bet Ohio State and PSU act the same way.

A Trustee at Auburn said it best about 40 or so years ago IIRC. When asked about giving kids that played football diplomas, the Trustee finally blew his top and said something to the effect of " God Damnit, these kids make us happy, play for us, and sacrafice for us, and I'll be damned if they spend the rest of their lives of the back of a GD garbage truck".

JR might know who that was.
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10-14-2019 03:42 PM
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Live look in at everybody not in the SEC or Miami/UNC/Duke discussing future NCAA contingencies:

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