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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
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(10-07-2019 12:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pretty hard to treat you guys "rage" here with any respect when you've sat idly by for 2+ years as the trump children and trump himself continually profit off him being president.

Just sayin'.

Ahhhhh. When presented with actual evidence of corruption you resort to the "But Trump!"... where there's no actual evidence, just allegation.

Keep treadin' that swamp water Tommy!

Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

Where's your proof on "Trump Family Grifting on America" there Whataboutism Tom?
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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 01:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 12:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pretty hard to treat you guys "rage" here with any respect when you've sat idly by for 2+ years as the trump children and trump himself continually profit off him being president.

Just sayin'.

Ahhhhh. When presented with actual evidence of corruption you resort to the "But Trump!"... where there's no actual evidence, just allegation.

Keep treadin' that swamp water Tommy!

Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

You seem to not understand that whole "evidence" part of the equation.

I will say though, that I firmly disagree with family members being given high post, cabinet level positions. It's a poor precedent and I prefer positions of advisors, etc to be folks with actual experience. That much I do disagree with and dislike.

However... show me some evidence of corruption.
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(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

That is a noble statement Tom, and while you are technically correct, you have not stated that Pelosi is totally clear, you also have not made one statement calling her out, unlike the many many posts in multiple threads that rail on Trump.


Your silence on these "charges" against Pelosi and Biden are a defacto defense of them given that you are oppositely NOT silent about DJT.

Denounce one, denounce them all... Only then can you truly and honestly claim your middle ground.
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What Trump (and his family) does to capitalize on his title is pretty egregious too. I bet you can go back through the anals of time and see similar ill-gotten-gains for many elected officials and their families. It doesn't make it right, however it is hypocritical to put one person on that guilty mantle and ignore everyone else as if it never happened.
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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
(10-07-2019 02:16 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

That is a noble statement Tom, and while you are technically correct, you have not stated that Pelosi is totally clear, you also have not made one statement calling her out, unlike the many many posts in multiple threads that rail on Trump.


Your silence on these "charges" against Pelosi and Biden are a defacto defense of them given that you are oppositely NOT silent about DJT.

Denounce one, denounce them all... Only then can you truly and honestly claim your middle ground.

I'm waiting until I see an actual story or an investigation...not some youtube video posted to twitter. I'll try to verify something on this in the coming days. I may be out of commission for a few as they're upgrading my computer at work today.
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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
(10-07-2019 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:16 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

That is a noble statement Tom, and while you are technically correct, you have not stated that Pelosi is totally clear, you also have not made one statement calling her out, unlike the many many posts in multiple threads that rail on Trump.


Your silence on these "charges" against Pelosi and Biden are a defacto defense of them given that you are oppositely NOT silent about DJT.

Denounce one, denounce them all... Only then can you truly and honestly claim your middle ground.

I'm waiting until I see an actual story or an investigation...not some youtube video posted to twitter. I'll try to verify something on this in the coming days. I may be out of commission for a few as they're upgrading my computer at work today.

Well that's all we'll see on that.. You see Trump is corrupt because Tom feels he's corrupt, he doesn't need proof for his feels and if you have proof of his heroes well it's not good enough..

Same song, different verse.. This is why I got put on ignore by his preciousness because I applied the same logic to him and it hurt hims widdle feel feels.
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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
(10-07-2019 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:16 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

That is a noble statement Tom, and while you are technically correct, you have not stated that Pelosi is totally clear, you also have not made one statement calling her out, unlike the many many posts in multiple threads that rail on Trump.


Your silence on these "charges" against Pelosi and Biden are a defacto defense of them given that you are oppositely NOT silent about DJT.

Denounce one, denounce them all... Only then can you truly and honestly claim your middle ground.

I'm waiting until I see an actual story or an investigation...not some youtube video posted to twitter. I'll try to verify something on this in the coming days. I may be out of commission for a few as they're upgrading my computer at work today.

I doubt it, but I'll be interested to see if you follow through on such actions or if you just go with the ops normal lip service.

Funny how anytime you're backed into a corner an excuse of absence arises.
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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
(10-07-2019 02:48 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:16 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

That is a noble statement Tom, and while you are technically correct, you have not stated that Pelosi is totally clear, you also have not made one statement calling her out, unlike the many many posts in multiple threads that rail on Trump.


Your silence on these "charges" against Pelosi and Biden are a defacto defense of them given that you are oppositely NOT silent about DJT.

Denounce one, denounce them all... Only then can you truly and honestly claim your middle ground.

I'm waiting until I see an actual story or an investigation...not some youtube video posted to twitter. I'll try to verify something on this in the coming days. I may be out of commission for a few as they're upgrading my computer at work today.

I doubt it, but I'll be interested to see if you follow through on such actions or if you just go with the ops normal lip service.

Funny how anytime you're backed into a corner an excuse of absence arises.
He'll go to Snopes and click on the first Huffington article that comes up under his Google search to verify his DNC talking points that Trump corrupt and Nancy, et al are all fine (just crazy FOX news conspiracies).

Hey did you hear? Liz Warren was fired from her first teaching job cuz she was preggo?
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The truth is he doesn’t care what the truth is. He is only here to prop up the liberal communist left. He won’t pay any attention to facts other than to establish talking points to misdirect the conversation away from those facts. He is a loyal follower. Undoubtedly going to stay on track no matter the consequences. In short, a useful idiot....
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...41435.html

"In polling completed in December of last year by Caddell & Associates, 85% of Americans believe “the country is run by an alliance of incumbent politicians, media pundits, lobbyists and other powerful money interest groups for their own gain at the expense of the American people.” To many Americans, government corruption has become the rule rather than the exception....

It’s why, in the Caddell poll, government ethics and corruption were the highest-scoring concern of the American people and two-thirds of respondents said if there were a place on the ballot where they could vote to defeat and replace every single member of Congress, including their own representative, they would...."
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(10-08-2019 09:20 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...41435.html

"In polling completed in December of last year by Caddell & Associates, 85% of Americans believe “the country is run by an alliance of incumbent politicians, media pundits, lobbyists and other powerful money interest groups for their own gain at the expense of the American people.” To many Americans, government corruption has become the rule rather than the exception....

It’s why, in the Caddell poll, government ethics and corruption were the highest-scoring concern of the American people and two-thirds of respondents said if there were a place on the ballot where they could vote to defeat and replace every single member of Congress, including their own representative, they would...."

A box to check to fire them all? That’s the greatest thing I’ve heard yet! Maybe only once every eight years or so because it would overwhelming pass every single time it was on the ballot.
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(10-07-2019 02:48 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:16 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

That is a noble statement Tom, and while you are technically correct, you have not stated that Pelosi is totally clear, you also have not made one statement calling her out, unlike the many many posts in multiple threads that rail on Trump.


Your silence on these "charges" against Pelosi and Biden are a defacto defense of them given that you are oppositely NOT silent about DJT.

Denounce one, denounce them all... Only then can you truly and honestly claim your middle ground.

I'm waiting until I see an actual story or an investigation...not some youtube video posted to twitter. I'll try to verify something on this in the coming days. I may be out of commission for a few as they're upgrading my computer at work today.

I doubt it, but I'll be interested to see if you follow through on such actions or if you just go with the ops normal lip service.

Funny how anytime you're backed into a corner an excuse of absence arises.

With all due respect, you're totally full of **** with this idiotic belief. Stop believing the damned trolls around here. But knock yourself out if you wish finding all the threads, or even one, where I bailed due to some excuse.....

I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong or make a mistake.
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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
(10-08-2019 12:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:48 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:16 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Perhaps you can point to where exactly that I said Pelosi is totally clear of any wrongdoing here?

Corruption is corruption. It's all bad and anyone guilty of it should be held accountable. The point is that I don't see many threads here, okay none, where any of you seem to give one **** about the trump family grift on America.

That is a noble statement Tom, and while you are technically correct, you have not stated that Pelosi is totally clear, you also have not made one statement calling her out, unlike the many many posts in multiple threads that rail on Trump.


Your silence on these "charges" against Pelosi and Biden are a defacto defense of them given that you are oppositely NOT silent about DJT.

Denounce one, denounce them all... Only then can you truly and honestly claim your middle ground.

I'm waiting until I see an actual story or an investigation...not some youtube video posted to twitter. I'll try to verify something on this in the coming days. I may be out of commission for a few as they're upgrading my computer at work today.

I doubt it, but I'll be interested to see if you follow through on such actions or if you just go with the ops normal lip service.

Funny how anytime you're backed into a corner an excuse of absence arises.

With all due respect, you're totally full of **** with this idiotic belief. Stop believing the damned trolls around here. But knock yourself out if you wish finding all the threads, or even one, where I bailed due to some excuse.....

I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong or make a mistake.
You called me dishonest.. You're absolutely incorrect on that.. It's only because you don't agree with what I say...
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RE: Son Of House Speaker Pelosi Made Money In Ukraine, Used Her In Ads
All I can find is an article from RedState which says pretty much the same exact thing as the OANN story in the OP. And other than appearing in that promotional video, I don't see any involvement from Nancy.

Is there any evidence she did anything wrong here? I've never been a huge fan of Pelosi, so if she did anything wrong I'll gladly support any investigation.
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(10-08-2019 12:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  All I can find is an article from RedState which says pretty much the same exact thing as the OANN story in the OP. And other than appearing in that promotional video, I don't see any involvement from Nancy.

Is there any evidence she did anything wrong here? I've never been a huge fan of Pelosi, so if she did anything wrong I'll gladly support any investigation.

And yet in this very thread you accused of Trump’s children of profiting off of their fathers presidency. With absolutely no proof. Why is that?
How many republican offspring can you point to making millions in the Ukraine during Barry’s administration? I’ll wait until you search that on google.....
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(10-08-2019 09:18 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The truth is he doesn’t care what the truth is. He is only here to prop up the liberal communist left. He won’t pay any attention to facts other than to establish talking points to misdirect the conversation away from those facts. He is a loyal follower. Undoubtedly going to stay on track no matter the consequences. In short, a useful idiot....

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