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MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
I wonder what their plan for hockey is? Maybe the NCHL adds them and Minn St Mankato?
10-04-2019 10:20 AM
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
The NCHC is the best league in college hockey. I don't think they need to add anyone right now.

I really like this addition for the Summit so much more than Augustana. UST has about 10,000 students, a solid endowment and is well-located in St. Paul. Minn.
10-04-2019 10:27 AM
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
Great add. St Thomas has the potential to blow up as a program if they ever got really good. If not, the Tommies hit the sweet spot niche - in the footprint, new market, #2 program in a decent-sized state.
10-04-2019 10:32 AM
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
Summit League has confirmed this news in a press release. League vote was unanimous by the Summit Presidents.

I really like this move, and I hope the NCAA approves it. The Tommies have the size, resources, location, sports tradition and academic profile to be a very effective addition to the Summit League.
10-04-2019 10:51 AM
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
It'll be interesting to see. I guess the NCAA could approve the waiver given they were kicked out of their conference if memory serves me right- but still keep the top on the toothpaste and not have a flood of d3 to d1 moveups.
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This is a good move in many ways.

-UST has a profile more similar to Creighton than St. Marys in Winona MN. UST outgrew the MIAC.
-UST will become just the 2nd Minnesota school at the division 1 level. Many Minnesota athletes populating the D1 programs of the surrounding states might like staying closer to home.
-The Northern Sun Conference (D2) didn't want to be a half-way house for UST for a few years.
-I also think Denver is a winner in this. The Summit adds a high quality private to the roster. That might make Denver feel better about the neighborhood.
(Now if the Summit could only get Drake.... nah, ain't gonna happen.)
10-04-2019 12:03 PM
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(10-04-2019 10:20 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I wonder what their plan for hockey is? Maybe the NCHL adds them and Minn St Mankato?

I wonder if the "WCHA 7" got wind of this before issuing their letter that they were going to form a new hockey conference?
UST fits their footprint perfectly: "The Great Lakes Hockey Conference"
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
(10-04-2019 12:11 PM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  
(10-04-2019 10:20 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I wonder what their plan for hockey is? Maybe the NCHL adds them and Minn St Mankato?

I wonder if the "WCHA 7" got wind of this before issuing their letter that they were going to form a new hockey conference?
UST fits their footprint perfectly: "The Great Lakes Hockey Conference"

Geographically speaking they’d make a nice 8th school for that league.
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Did DavidSt predict a 2 division jump? Lol
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Good move for both parties.
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
(10-04-2019 12:03 PM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  This is a good move in many ways.

-UST has a profile more similar to Creighton than St. Marys in Winona MN. UST outgrew the MIAC.
-UST will become just the 2nd Minnesota school at the division 1 level. Many Minnesota athletes populating the D1 programs of the surrounding states might like staying closer to home.
-The Northern Sun Conference (D2) didn't want to be a half-way house for UST for a few years.
-I also think Denver is a winner in this. The Summit adds a high quality private to the roster. That might make Denver feel better about the neighborhood.
(Now if the Summit could only get Drake.... nah, ain't gonna happen.)

All of this.
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
(10-04-2019 10:19 AM)puck swami Wrote:  http://www.startribune.com/st-thomas-to-...562174952/

Hmmm... and how does this effect the Great Northern FBS Conference?

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10-04-2019 01:02 PM
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
I wonder what their football plans are Pioneer or will we see the Summit try to take over management of the MVFC?
10-04-2019 01:38 PM
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
(10-04-2019 12:20 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Did DavidSt predict a 2 division jump? Lol

In the Tarleton State thread, I have them listed that said they want D1. Rowan is the other team that said they are looking to go D1.
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
Just found a topic from 2016 where DavidSt predicts St Thomas would go to the Pioneer League despite no precedence of the D3 waiver ever being granted. This is next level stuff.

(12-13-2016 03:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  St. Thomas could play in the Pioneer League first. That is until they could build up for more cash for scholarships for football.

St. Thomas, Minnesota
Butler, Indiana
Dayton, Ohio
Valparaiso, Indiana
Drake, Iowa

If Evansville could restart football, they could be in there as well.
Pioneer League Football do need to get more football and break into regions like Pioneer League Football Southeast, Northeast, Midwest, North Central, South Central and West Coast.
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
Pioneer is the route they would go

https://twitter.com/The_BrakeDown/status...69505?s=20
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(10-04-2019 01:38 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I wonder what their football plans are Pioneer or will we see the Summit try to take over management of the MVFC?

I think the Pioneer makes sense at first. If some big $ donors are willing to pony up, they could consider a scholarship league later. For example, Mercer started in the Pioneer and then moved to the SoCon.

UST will face financial challenges moving to D1: scholarships to athletes, increased coaching salaries, facility improvements. They currently have 22 sports. Will they keep all of them? (*note: UST has baseball and soccer, which the Summit League desperately needs with loss of PFW.)

UST will be able to do what must be done. But if they keep football non-scholly for a few years of transition, that will make things easier.
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RE: MPLS Star-Tribune: Univ of St. Thomas Invited to Summit League pending NCAA waiver
(10-04-2019 01:54 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Just found a topic from 2016 where DavidSt predicts St Thomas would go to the Pioneer League despite no precedence of the D3 waiver ever being granted. This is next level stuff.

(12-13-2016 03:41 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  St. Thomas could play in the Pioneer League first. That is until they could build up for more cash for scholarships for football.

St. Thomas, Minnesota
Butler, Indiana
Dayton, Ohio
Valparaiso, Indiana
Drake, Iowa

If Evansville could restart football, they could be in there as well.
Pioneer League Football do need to get more football and break into regions like Pioneer League Football Southeast, Northeast, Midwest, North Central, South Central and West Coast.

He's on a hot streak. It was Tarleton moving up last week.
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