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Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
That's realignment after the Name/Image/Likeness rights and the 'pay for play' breakaway apocalypse.

What would the NCAA and the pro pay for play league (MCAA - Major Collegiate Athletics Association [my wording]) look like if the NIL and PFP come about?

The MCAA is a pay for play private professional league for football and Men's basketball that is invite only. The athletes are not students and don't have to go to class and have to pay taxes on their earnings.

For the MCAA, I included the major football powers, the 5 blue blood basketball programs and a few others that would receive help from Major athletics wear company's owners like Oregon and Maryland and a few other high resource schools.

Michigan State was a late add to get to 6 in the north. Arkansas always had the resources to hire expensive coaches. So I figured they could compete. Washington is a long way away from their best years but I was having a hard enough time finding teams in the west.

There aren't 6 worthy teams in the west. Maybe Stanford would be good because of their athletics endowment, or UNLV as the city of Las Vegas is experiencing a renaissance in professional sports, or Boise St. for their football, or Arizona/Utah/Colorado to add a new state. 2 more have to come from somewhere and I don't see taking Texas and Oklahoma from the South West to be a viable option.

The NCAA allows for NIL but is still an amateur organization.



MCAA-

North
-----
Michigan
Michigan State
Nebraska
Ohio State
Penn State
Wisconsin

East
-----
Clemson
Duke
Kentucky
Maryland
North Carolina
Tennessee

South East
-----
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Miami
Florida
Florida State

South West
-----
Arkansas
Kansas
LSU
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M

West
-----
Oregon
Southern California
UCLA
Washington
+ 2 more


NCAA -

B1G
-----
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Rutgers
Temple



ACC - 5 FB game deal with Notre Dame. Notre Dame non-football member.
-----
Boston College
Georgia Tech
Louisville
North Carolina State
Pittsburgh
South Carolina
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest



Big 12
-----
Baylor
Iowa State
Kansas State
Mississippi
Missouri
Oklahoma State
Texas Christian
Texas Tech
Vanderbilt
West Virginia



Pac 12
-----
Arizona
Arizona State
California
Colorado
Oregon state
San Diego State
Stanford
UNLV
Utah
Washington State



SEC - Wichita State non-football member.
-----
Central Florida
East Carolina
Houston
Memphis
Mississippi State
Navy - football only
SMU
South Florida
Tulane
Tulsa



MWC
-----
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
Fresno State
Hawaii - football only
Nevada
New Mexico
San Jose State
Utah State
Wyoming

MAC - Same
CUSA - Same
Sunbelt - Same



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Massachusetts
New Mexico State
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
I'm not saying this is the way it's going to be. I'd like to hear some other people ideas on who would be included and who would be left out and how the conferences would sort themselves out.

It seems to me that the large metropolitan schools could be well positioned for NIL as their are thousands of businesses in their metropolitan area that could be NIL sponsors. A Memphis with a strong relationship with FedEx or Louisville with a strong relationship with Adidas and Papa John's could easily play in the pay for play league.
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
Very cool concept.

How this effects school like Memphis and Temple is what is most interesting to me.

You have a school in Memphis who seemingly could be single handily backed by Fed Ex.

You have a school like Temple, in the 3rd biggest city and supposedly willing to spend 200 mil on an on campus stadium.

I’m sure there’s other similar situations.
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
Full Pay for Play Group:
ACC:
Clemson
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville
North Carolina
N.C. State
Virginia
Virginia Tech

SEC:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
South Carolina
Tennessee

Big 10:
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Big 12:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
West Virginia

PAC:
Arizona
Arizona State
California
California Los Angeles
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Washington
Washington State

Privates:
Air Force
Army
Baylor
Boston College
Duke
Miami
Navy
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh (quasi private)
Southern California
Stanford
Syracuse
Texas Christian
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

These would be your starting base conferences. I believe the privates would separate out for all sports but football and basketball because their sports mix and their individual needs and emphasis would be quite different from the states. They would want inclusion in the two money sports, but would probably like to concentrate their Title IX in different ways. Most of those would probably still play baseball against the State schools.

I don't see any current P5 state schools opting to drop out because it simply provides them way too much exposure for prospective students to take that kind of hit.

The question then becomes how might they reorganize?

Reorganizing the whole structure to fit the playoffs would be workable at this point: So maybe the SEC and Big 10 absorb the ACC schools that are state schools:

The Big 10 might add: Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia Tech for markets in a move to 16.

The SEC would look to add Virginia Tech, North Carolina State, Clemson, Florida State and possibly West Virginia and Louisville

The PAC picks up Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Now these moves aren't made for any other reason than Structure and including those within the P5 that want to stay there.

B1G:
Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia
Indiana, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

SEC:
Kentucky, Louisville, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina
Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

PAC:
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah
California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

Private:
Air Force, Southern California, Stanford, Texas Christian
Army, Northwestern, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Boston College, Duke, Navy, Wake Forest
Baylor, Miami, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
(10-03-2019 01:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Full Pay for Play Group:
ACC:
Clemson
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville
North Carolina
N.C. State
Virginia
Virginia Tech

SEC:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
South Carolina
Tennessee

Big 10:
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Big 12:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
West Virginia

PAC:
Arizona
Arizona State
California
California Los Angeles
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Washington
Washington State

Privates:
Air Force
Army
Baylor
Boston College
Duke
Miami
Navy
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh (quasi private)
Southern California
Stanford
Syracuse
Texas Christian
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

These would be your starting base conferences. I believe the privates would separate out for all sports but football and basketball because their sports mix and their individual needs and emphasis would be quite different from the states. They would want inclusion in the two money sports, but would probably like to concentrate their Title IX in different ways. Most of those would probably still play baseball against the State schools.

I don't see any current P5 state schools opting to drop out because it simply provides them way too much exposure for prospective students to take that kind of hit.

The question then becomes how might they reorganize?

Reorganizing the whole structure to fit the playoffs would be workable at this point: So maybe the SEC and Big 10 absorb the ACC schools that are state schools:

The Big 10 might add: Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia Tech for markets in a move to 16.

The SEC would look to add Virginia Tech, North Carolina State, Clemson, Florida State and possibly West Virginia and Louisville

The PAC picks up Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Now these moves aren't made for any other reason than Structure and including those within the P5 that want to stay there.

B1G:
Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia
Indiana, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

SEC:
Kentucky, Louisville, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina
Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

PAC:
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah
California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

Private:
Air Force, Southern California, Stanford, Texas Christian
Army, Northwestern, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Boston College, Duke, Navy, Wake Forest
Baylor, Miami, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt

I hadn't factored in a possible split between publics and privates. Miami is a traditional football power, even though they haven't competed for a national championship in close to 20 years, but they don't have the financial resources of most football powers. They would probably prefer an NIL amateur league as opposed to a full pay for play league.
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
(10-03-2019 01:30 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(10-03-2019 01:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Full Pay for Play Group:
ACC:
Clemson
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville
North Carolina
N.C. State
Virginia
Virginia Tech

SEC:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
South Carolina
Tennessee

Big 10:
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Big 12:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
West Virginia

PAC:
Arizona
Arizona State
California
California Los Angeles
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Washington
Washington State

Privates:
Air Force
Army
Baylor
Boston College
Duke
Miami
Navy
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh (quasi private)
Southern California
Stanford
Syracuse
Texas Christian
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

These would be your starting base conferences. I believe the privates would separate out for all sports but football and basketball because their sports mix and their individual needs and emphasis would be quite different from the states. They would want inclusion in the two money sports, but would probably like to concentrate their Title IX in different ways. Most of those would probably still play baseball against the State schools.

I don't see any current P5 state schools opting to drop out because it simply provides them way too much exposure for prospective students to take that kind of hit.

The question then becomes how might they reorganize?

Reorganizing the whole structure to fit the playoffs would be workable at this point: So maybe the SEC and Big 10 absorb the ACC schools that are state schools:

The Big 10 might add: Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia Tech for markets in a move to 16.

The SEC would look to add Virginia Tech, North Carolina State, Clemson, Florida State and possibly West Virginia and Louisville

The PAC picks up Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Now these moves aren't made for any other reason than Structure and including those within the P5 that want to stay there.

B1G:
Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia
Indiana, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers
Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

SEC:
Kentucky, Louisville, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina
Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

PAC:
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah
California, California Los Angeles, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

Private:
Air Force, Southern California, Stanford, Texas Christian
Army, Northwestern, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Boston College, Duke, Navy, Wake Forest
Baylor, Miami, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt

I hadn't factored in a possible split between publics and privates. Miami is a traditional football power, even though they haven't competed for a national championship in close to 20 years, but they don't have the financial resources of most football powers. They would probably prefer an NIL amateur league as opposed to a full pay for play league.

The Privates is really a collection of schools with different financial arrangements like the service academies. The purpose of forming it would be flexibility for schools which have to account for things differently for tax purposes, or may not be able to offer the breadth of sports the publics would. I think even Miami would want to remain at high exposure, but if they didn't B.Y.U. and Tulane would love the opportunity.

What I would envision with this is that the 4 champs and 4 at large would form the new CFP. That makes the regular season meaningful for all 4 conferences, and keeps hopes alive for other strong programs. It would meet the needs of the conferences and networks a bit better than what we have now and the Private conference doesn't lack brand recognition with N.D., USC, Stanford, Duke, Miami, etc.

When the model changes accounting and scope of programming will be bigger issues, but I think all who possibly can will want to remain for the exposure.

There are many who will gripe and moan about pay for play right now in hopes of preventing it. But when it happens and they are confronted with the fact that their schools are known because of their upper tier sports exposure they will find reasons to accommodate the new situation to keep that exposure.
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(10-03-2019 02:53 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  That's realignment after the Name/Image/Likeness rights and the 'pay for play' breakaway apocalypse.

What would the NCAA and the pro pay for play league (MCAA - Major Collegiate Athletics Association [my wording]) look like if the NIL and PFP come about?

The MCAA is a pay for play private professional league for football and Men's basketball that is invite only. The athletes are not students and don't have to go to class and have to pay taxes on their earnings.

For the MCAA, I included the major football powers, the 5 blue blood basketball programs and a few others that would receive help from Major athletics wear company's owners like Oregon and Maryland and a few other high resource schools.

Michigan State was a late add to get to 6 in the north. Arkansas always had the resources to hire expensive coaches. So I figured they could compete. Washington is a long way away from their best years but I was having a hard enough time finding teams in the west.

There aren't 6 worthy teams in the west. Maybe Stanford would be good because of their athletics endowment, or UNLV as the city of Las Vegas is experiencing a renaissance in professional sports, or Boise St. for their football, or Arizona/Utah/Colorado to add a new state. 2 more have to come from somewhere and I don't see taking Texas and Oklahoma from the South West to be a viable option.

The NCAA allows for NIL but is still an amateur organization.



MCAA-

North
-----
Michigan
Michigan State
Nebraska
Ohio State
Penn State
Wisconsin

East
-----
Clemson
Duke
Kentucky
Maryland
North Carolina
Tennessee

South East
-----
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Miami
Florida
Florida State

South West
-----
Arkansas
Kansas
LSU
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M

West
-----
Oregon
Southern California
UCLA
Washington
+ 2 more


NCAA -

B1G
-----
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Minnesota
Northwestern
Purdue
Rutgers
Temple



ACC - 5 FB game deal with Notre Dame. Notre Dame non-football member.
-----
Boston College
Georgia Tech
Louisville
North Carolina State
Pittsburgh
South Carolina
Syracuse
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest



Big 12
-----
Baylor
Iowa State
Kansas State
Mississippi
Missouri
Oklahoma State
Texas Christian
Texas Tech
Vanderbilt
West Virginia



Pac 12
-----
Arizona
Arizona State
California
Colorado
Oregon state
San Diego State
Stanford
UNLV
Utah
Washington State



SEC - Wichita State non-football member.
-----
Central Florida
East Carolina
Houston
Memphis
Mississippi State
Navy - football only
SMU
South Florida
Tulane
Tulsa



MWC
-----
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
Fresno State
Hawaii - football only
Nevada
New Mexico
San Jose State
Utah State
Wyoming

MAC - Same
CUSA - Same
Sunbelt - Same



Independent
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Army
BYU
Liberty
Massachusetts
New Mexico State
Notre Dame
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
Notre Dame and Big 10 schools do not want to be involved in the NIL or Pay to play.

Boise State gets donations from the family of a large grocery company's family of Albertsons.

Miami Florida is a shell of it's former self, and they play 5th fiddle in the state behind UCF and USF.

Schools like Iowa State, Kansas State, Oregon State and Washington State's of the world do not have the big time donors like their counterparts which they make them not suitable for for the new grouping.
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
(10-03-2019 01:47 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-03-2019 01:30 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(10-03-2019 01:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Full Pay for Play Group:
ACC:
Clemson
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Miami
North Carolina
N.C. State
Notre Dame
Virginia
Virginia Tech

SEC:
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Louisiana State
Mississippi
Mississippi State
Missouri
South Carolina
Tennessee

Big 10:
Illinois
Iowa
Maryland
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Nebraska
Northwestern
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers
Wisconsin

Big 12:
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Tech
West Virginia

PAC:
Arizona
Arizona State
California
UCLA
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
USC
Utah
Washington
Washington State

Privates:
Air Force
Army
Baylor
Boston College
Duke
Navy
Pittsburgh (quasi private)
Stanford
Syracuse
Texas Christian
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

These would be your starting base conferences. I believe the privates would separate out for all sports but football and basketball because their sports mix and their individual needs and emphasis would be quite different from the states. They would want inclusion in the two money sports, but would probably like to concentrate their Title IX in different ways. Most of those would probably still play baseball against the State schools.

I don't see any current P5 state schools opting to drop out because it simply provides them way too much exposure for prospective students to take that kind of hit.

The question then becomes how might they reorganize?

Reorganizing the whole structure to fit the playoffs would be workable at this point: So maybe the SEC and Big 10 absorb the ACC schools that are state schools:

The Big 10 might add: Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia Tech for markets in a move to 16.

The SEC would look to add Virginia Tech, North Carolina State, Clemson, Florida State and possibly West Virginia and Louisville

The PAC picks up Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Now these moves aren't made for any other reason than Structure and including those within the P5 that want to stay there.

B1G:
Georgia Tech, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia
Northwestern, Penn State, Iowa State (gets golden ticket only because Indiana and Purdue reclassified) Rutgers
Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin

SEC:
Kentucky, Louisville, N.C. State, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina
Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

PAC:
USC, Stanford, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Utah
California, UCLA, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

Private:
Air Force, Stanford, Texas Christian
Army, Indiana, Purdue, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Boston College, Duke, Navy, Wake Forest
Baylor,, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt

I hadn't factored in a possible split between publics and privates. Miami is a traditional football power, even though they haven't competed for a national championship in close to 20 years, but they don't have the financial resources of most football powers. They would probably prefer an NIL amateur league as opposed to a full pay for play league.

The Privates is really a collection of schools with different financial arrangements like the service academies. The purpose of forming it would be flexibility for schools which have to account for things differently for tax purposes, or may not be able to offer the breadth of sports the publics would. I think even Miami would want to remain at high exposure, but if they didn't B.Y.U. and Tulane would love the opportunity.

What I would envision with this is that the 4 champs and 4 at large would form the new CFP. That makes the regular season meaningful for all 4 conferences, and keeps hopes alive for other strong programs. It would meet the needs of the conferences and networks a bit better than what we have now and the Private conference doesn't lack brand recognition with N.D., USC, Stanford, Duke, Miami, etc.

When the model changes accounting and scope of programming will be bigger issues, but I think all who possibly can will want to remain for the exposure.

There are many who will gripe and moan about pay for play right now in hopes of preventing it. But when it happens and they are confronted with the fact that their schools are known because of their upper tier sports exposure they will find reasons to accommodate the new situation to keep that exposure.

With regards to the private schools, I think you have to look at them on a case by case basis. Notre Dame, USC, Stanford, BYU, and Miami won't come right out and say it, but they could easily afford to pay their players. Duke possibly could be in this group, but I think that they would prefer JR's privates group. Same thing with Wake Forest, Vandy, and BC. Northwestern is another interesting case; let's just say after seeing their indoor practice facility, I think that they could pay their players. Indiana and Purdue, even though being state schools, might prefer JR's private group also because they focus more on basketball than football, although I could be wrong. Kentucky, oddly enough, I don't see as being that way.
Regardless, what is going to be really interesting is to see how the G5 and the rest of Division I view this. Do the G5 go full pay to play as well, or do they shy away from the challenge? How will the Big East, A10, MVC, etc. view this? Do they work out some type of a deal to remain in the big tournament with the big state schools, or do they opt to do something else??
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(10-03-2019 02:53 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  The MCAA is a pay for play private professional league for football and Men's basketball that is invite only. The athletes are not students and don't have to go to class and have to pay taxes on their earnings. ...

... but as part of the Affiliation Agreement with "their" school, the athletes MAY enroll in and take classes, subject to maintaining satisfactory academic progress.
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Wouldn’t be terribly disappointed to see this.....

#1

Florida
Florida State
Miami
Georgia
Clemson
South Carolina

#2

Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
LSU
Tennessee
Kentucky

#3

Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue

#4

Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota
Illinois
Kansas

#5

Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Missouri

#6

USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Arizona State
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(10-07-2019 05:51 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  Wouldn’t be terribly disappointed to see this.....

#1

Florida
Florida State
Miami
Georgia
Clemson
South Carolina

#2

Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
LSU
Tennessee
Kentucky

#3

Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue

#4

Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota
Illinois
Kansas

#5

Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Missouri

#6

USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Arizona State

ACC loses 3 teams 11 teams left
B1G loses 11 teams 3 teams left
B12 loses 4 teams 6 teams left
P12 loses 6 teams 6 teams left
SEC loses 12 teams 2 teams left


If you like it because it makes the ACC the best conference, you didn't leave many teams left for us to play. I would assume the ACC would pick up WVU or Vanderbilt to round out to 12 but that only leaves 16 teams left to play in the remaining power 5.

If you like it because it's a kick ass league, I'm surprised you left Pitt out.
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
(10-08-2019 03:47 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  
(10-07-2019 05:51 PM)zoocrew Wrote:  Wouldn’t be terribly disappointed to see this.....

#1

Florida
Florida State
Miami
Georgia
Clemson
South Carolina

#2

Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
LSU
Tennessee
Kentucky

#3

Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue

#4

Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota
Illinois
Kansas

#5

Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Missouri

#6

USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Arizona State

ACC loses 3 teams 11 teams left
B1G loses 11 teams 3 teams left
B12 loses 4 teams 6 teams left
P12 loses 6 teams 6 teams left
SEC loses 12 teams 2 teams left


If you like it because it makes the ACC the best conference, you didn't leave many teams left for us to play. I would assume the ACC would pick up WVU or Vanderbilt to round out to 12 but that only leaves 16 teams left to play in the remaining power 5.

If you like it because it's a kick ass league, I'm surprised you left Pitt out.

I think you could still have about 3 interesting leagues.

B1G

Boston College
UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple
Maryland

Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Notre Dame
Northwestern

ACC

Virginia
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Wake Forest

Vanderbilt
Memphis
Miss. State
Georgia Tech
UCF
USF

PAC 12

Cal
Stanford
Utah
BYU
Oregon State
Washington State

Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
Iowa State
Kansas State
Colorado
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RE: Realignment after the NIL and PFP apocalypse.
(10-08-2019 09:59 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  I think you could still have about 3 interesting leagues.

B1G

Boston College
UConn
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple
Maryland

Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Louisville
Notre Dame
Northwestern

ACC

Virginia
Virginia Tech
North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Wake Forest

Vanderbilt
Memphis
Miss. State
Georgia Tech
UCF
USF

PAC 12

Cal
Stanford
Utah
BYU
Oregon State
Washington State

Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
Iowa State
Kansas State
Colorado

That's not terrible. Combined with the remaining G5 leagues after the AAC gets decimated.

I don't think the B1G or SEC are destination conferences for ACC schools when they only have 2 and 3 schools left respectively. It's more likely that the ACC stays together and picks up one of UConn Cincinnati WVU Temple or Vandy and stays at 12.

It is good to see that the NCAA could continue even if 36 P5 members move on to a pay league. I tried to keep it to 30 leaving because the left behinds made nice 10 team leagues. Maybe the PFP apocalypse won't be so bad.
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