Who do we need to win this one? I've been thinking we'd be better off having UCF win out and then beat them in the championship game (obviously if we do what we need to do).

However, after they dropped a game, now might be the time to show the rest of the country we aren't a one team league. Outside of the Ohio State game (and let's face it OSU is making everyone look bad), Cincy has a good resume with wins over UCLA and VT.

I'm gonna try not to vomit and pull for Cincinnati.

(10-02-2019 11:50 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Who do we need to win this one? I've been thinking we'd be better off having UCF win out and then beat them in the championship game (obviously if we do what we need to do).

However, after they dropped a game, now might be the time to show the rest of the country we aren't a one team league. Outside of the Ohio State game (and let's face it OSU is making everyone look bad), Cincy has a good resume with wins over UCLA and VT.

I'm gonna try not to vomit and pull for Cincinnati.

Cincinnati didn't and doesn't play VT. Their win over them in the bowl game last year means absolutely nothing to this year.

I won't take time correcting errors in your statement and skip to the point.

What favors MEMPHIS, UCF win or Cincy win? I think it's tit for tat. A win for Cincy should pull them up/into rankings and start their climb. I think more important than this win, is that the winner wins out until we beat them in CCG.

To totally disect it, UCF is ranked higher and has a name. Ideally they would win out until the CCG game, including vs Cincy.

Cincy winning the AAC or even AAC East decreases the value of AAC nationally, because yes they did get drummed by Ohio State.

I want UCF to lose a conference game so the CCG will be here (assuming we win out in conference).

(10-02-2019 12:33 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  I want UCF to lose a conference game so the CCG will be here (assuming we win out in conference).

If we win out, we're undefeated and UCF would have the loss to OOC Pitt. Doesn't that give us home field advantage?

(10-02-2019 12:47 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 12:33 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  I want UCF to lose a conference game so the CCG will be here (assuming we win out in conference).

If we win out, we're undefeated and UCF would have the loss to OOC Pitt. Doesn't that give us home field advantage?

Unfortunately, no. Overall record isn't used if at least one team is ranked in the CFP:

Quote:The site of the Championship Game is the home stadium of the division champion with the best overall conference record. In the event that the two division champions are tied, then the head-to-head record shall be used as the tiebreaker. If the two teams did not play, the following procedure is used to determine the host:[5]

College Football Playoff ranking, under the following conditions:
- If only one division champion is ranked entering the final week of conference play, it will host if it wins in that week. If that team loses, a composite of four computer rankings is used to determine the host.
- If both division champions are ranked, the higher-ranked team that won in the final week will host. If, in this scenario, neither wins in the final week, the same computer ranking system is used.
- If neither division champion is ranked, the aforementioned computer rankings are used.
- If neither CFP nor computer rankings determine a host, the teams' records against common conference opponents are used.
- If still tied, overall record determines the host.
- Finally, a coin toss is held at the conference offices.

(10-02-2019 12:52 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 12:47 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 12:33 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  I want UCF to lose a conference game so the CCG will be here (assuming we win out in conference).

If we win out, we're undefeated and UCF would have the loss to OOC Pitt. Doesn't that give us home field advantage?

Unfortunately, no. Overall record isn't used if at least one team is ranked in the CFP:

Quote:The site of the Championship Game is the home stadium of the division champion with the best overall conference record. In the event that the two division champions are tied, then the head-to-head record shall be used as the tiebreaker. If the two teams did not play, the following procedure is used to determine the host:[5]

College Football Playoff ranking, under the following conditions:
- If only one division champion is ranked entering the final week of conference play, it will host if it wins in that week. If that team loses, a composite of four computer rankings is used to determine the host.
- If both division champions are ranked, the higher-ranked team that won in the final week will host. If, in this scenario, neither wins in the final week, the same computer ranking system is used.
- If neither division champion is ranked, the aforementioned computer rankings are used.
- If neither CFP nor computer rankings determine a host, the teams' records against common conference opponents are used.
- If still tied, overall record determines the host.
- Finally, a coin toss is held at the conference offices.

Good to know.

(10-02-2019 12:16 PM)gusrob Wrote:  I won't take time correcting errors in your statement and skip to the point.

What favors MEMPHIS, UCF win or Cincy win? I think it's tit for tat. A win for Cincy should pull them up/into rankings and start their climb. I think more important than this win, is that the winner wins out until we beat them in CCG.

To totally disect it, UCF is ranked higher and has a name. Ideally they would win out until the CCG game, including vs Cincy.

Cincy winning the AAC or even AAC East decreases the value of AAC nationally, because yes they did get drummed by Ohio State.

Drummed by a top 5 team is better than losing to an unranked one.

Cincy winning would help Memphis much more than UCF. For multiple reasons.

(10-02-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 12:16 PM)gusrob Wrote:  I won't take time correcting errors in your statement and skip to the point.

What favors MEMPHIS, UCF win or Cincy win? I think it's tit for tat. A win for Cincy should pull them up/into rankings and start their climb. I think more important than this win, is that the winner wins out until we beat them in CCG.

To totally disect it, UCF is ranked higher and has a name. Ideally they would win out until the CCG game, including vs Cincy.

Cincy winning the AAC or even AAC East decreases the value of AAC nationally, because yes they did get drummed by Ohio State.

Drummed by a top 5 team is better than losing to an unranked one.

Cincy winning would help Memphis much more than UCF. For multiple reasons.

Waiting on the list

(10-02-2019 04:44 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 12:16 PM)gusrob Wrote:  I won't take time correcting errors in your statement and skip to the point.

What favors MEMPHIS, UCF win or Cincy win? I think it's tit for tat. A win for Cincy should pull them up/into rankings and start their climb. I think more important than this win, is that the winner wins out until we beat them in CCG.

To totally disect it, UCF is ranked higher and has a name. Ideally they would win out until the CCG game, including vs Cincy.

Cincy winning the AAC or even AAC East decreases the value of AAC nationally, because yes they did get drummed by Ohio State.

Drummed by a top 5 team is better than losing to an unranked one.

Cincy winning would help Memphis much more than UCF. For multiple reasons.

Waiting on the list

If we win out, we host the AAC Championship game.
Dispels the myth that the AAC is a 1 team conference.
Increases our SOS during the season.
Shuts up their fans... maybe... for a game... not really, but it sounds good.
I can't stand UCF, ok that doesn't really help Memphis, but it doesn't change that fact either.
Cincy is a longer standing rival than UCF.
Cincy will possibly be ranked at the end of the season, which will help us with the Access Bowl chase.
Will also shift the focus from UCF to the Memphis/SMU matchup as the most important G5 game.

Enough of a list for you?

(10-02-2019 05:34 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 04:44 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 12:16 PM)gusrob Wrote:  I won't take time correcting errors in your statement and skip to the point.

What favors MEMPHIS, UCF win or Cincy win? I think it's tit for tat. A win for Cincy should pull them up/into rankings and start their climb. I think more important than this win, is that the winner wins out until we beat them in CCG.

To totally disect it, UCF is ranked higher and has a name. Ideally they would win out until the CCG game, including vs Cincy.

Cincy winning the AAC or even AAC East decreases the value of AAC nationally, because yes they did get drummed by Ohio State.

Drummed by a top 5 team is better than losing to an unranked one.

Cincy winning would help Memphis much more than UCF. For multiple reasons.

Waiting on the list

If we win out, we host the AAC Championship game.
Dispels the myth that the AAC is a 1 team conference.
Increases our SOS during the season.
Shuts up their fans... maybe... for a game... not really, but it sounds good.
I can't stand UCF, ok that doesn't really help Memphis, but it doesn't change that fact either.
Cincy is a longer standing rival than UCF.
Cincy will possibly be ranked at the end of the season, which will help us with the Access Bowl chase.
Will also shift the focus from UCF to the Memphis/SMU matchup as the most important G5 game.

Enough of a list for you?

All of this. My opinion also. People acting like it's not even worth debating aren't seeing the whole picture.

(10-02-2019 05:34 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 04:44 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 01:52 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 12:16 PM)gusrob Wrote:  I won't take time correcting errors in your statement and skip to the point.

What favors MEMPHIS, UCF win or Cincy win? I think it's tit for tat. A win for Cincy should pull them up/into rankings and start their climb. I think more important than this win, is that the winner wins out until we beat them in CCG.

To totally disect it, UCF is ranked higher and has a name. Ideally they would win out until the CCG game, including vs Cincy.

Cincy winning the AAC or even AAC East decreases the value of AAC nationally, because yes they did get drummed by Ohio State.

Drummed by a top 5 team is better than losing to an unranked one.

Cincy winning would help Memphis much more than UCF. For multiple reasons.

Waiting on the list

If we win out, we host the AAC Championship game.
Dispels the myth that the AAC is a 1 team conference.
Increases our SOS during the season.
Shuts up their fans... maybe... for a game... not really, but it sounds good.
I can't stand UCF, ok that doesn't really help Memphis, but it doesn't change that fact either.
Cincy is a longer standing rival than UCF.
Cincy will possibly be ranked at the end of the season, which will help us with the Access Bowl chase.
Will also shift the focus from UCF to the Memphis/SMU matchup as the most important G5 game.

Enough of a list for you?

Don’t get testy. I was seriously curious.

(10-02-2019 11:54 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 11:50 AM)bluecrew Wrote:  Who do we need to win this one? I've been thinking we'd be better off having UCF win out and then beat them in the championship game (obviously if we do what we need to do).

However, after they dropped a game, now might be the time to show the rest of the country we aren't a one team league. Outside of the Ohio State game (and let's face it OSU is making everyone look bad), Cincy has a good resume with wins over UCLA and VT.

I'm gonna try not to vomit and pull for Cincinnati.

Cincinnati didn't and doesn't play VT. Their win over them in the bowl game last year means absolutely nothing to this year.

Nor is beating a rebuilding 1-4 UCLA much to write home about. At home, last game of the regular season, I like our chances at this point.

Three ns, one t.

Cincy up 27-16 start of the 4th.

Oof. Didn't know this thread existed.

(10-04-2019 09:44 PM)mairving Wrote:  Cincy up 27-16 start of the 4th.

Their defense looks like the real deal.

UCF's Freshman QB is having one bad night. Get some D up on him quickly and he gets pretty jumpy. He's been pounded several times tonight.

Back to back complete bull**** spots favoring UCF

Refs trolling.