As noted, this does not pay student-athletes wages... It only allows them to use their likeness and get monetary value in return for it.

Why do you think EA avoided using actual athlete's names in their NCAA games? They weren't going to take the chance of this kind of law getting passed, whether in one state or nationally.

Now do I think this is going to allow for schools to bend the rules for 'advance things'. I think they're going to have some try and push the limit. But here is the question someone asked.

What if USC was playing in the state of Georgia... can the USC player do a card show in Georgia and get paid for his signature?

Forgetting the P5, because those schools have a media and fan reach that far exceeds their immediate location, will this disadvantage those G5 schools from small markets and impoverised areas? Will players at UNT have much better opportunities than players at USM? Will players at Detroit U get crumbs because the businesses there struggle to survive, while USF players rake it in as their wealthy population continues to grow? Does a disposible income index, like media market in the past, drive the next realignment because better endorsement opportunities will draw better players?

I think this is bad news.

How are they going to police a booster going and buying $10k worth of Tua autographs? How will they stop coaches in recruiting from saying, even our third team players make $X on autographs.

On a side note - how long before we have a former player facing tax evasion charges crying at a press conference because 'he didn't know' he had to pay taxes on those earning.

(10-03-2019 10:09 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Forgetting the P5, because those schools have a media and fan reach that far exceeds their immediate location, will this disadvantage those G5 schools from small markets and impoverised areas? Will players at UNT have much better opportunities than players at USM? Will players at Detroit U get crumbs because the businesses there struggle to survive, while USF players rake it in as their wealthy population continues to grow? Does a disposible income index, like media market in the past, drive the next realignment because better endorsement opportunities will draw better players?

You are also going to get the kids trying to monetize their YouTube Channels, be Instagram Influencers, etc. They don't have to be the best athletes or make $100k. They just need to have a great personality and be creative, even if they only make a couple of hundred $ a month. To a 19 year old that's still money they can pocket. How much of a distraction will this create on the sidelines and in the locker rooms? Student Athletes have enough on their plate as it is, now they are gonna try to side hustle so they can pocket some extra cash. You'll have the majority of your athletes trying to cash in on this it doesn't matter if they are the star athlete or the backup to the backup.

(10-03-2019 07:03 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Jordan brand is already giving football players basketball shoes as a recruiting tool.

next thing you know, a school will set up fake classes for athletes and get away with it!

Now you’ve gone too far. I’m sure that could never happen.

(10-03-2019 11:44 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 10:09 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Forgetting the P5, because those schools have a media and fan reach that far exceeds their immediate location, will this disadvantage those G5 schools from small markets and impoverised areas? Will players at UNT have much better opportunities than players at USM? Will players at Detroit U get crumbs because the businesses there struggle to survive, while USF players rake it in as their wealthy population continues to grow? Does a disposible income index, like media market in the past, drive the next realignment because better endorsement opportunities will draw better players?

You are also going to get the kids trying to monetize their YouTube Channels, be Instagram Influencers, etc. They don't have to be the best athletes or make $100k. They just need to have a great personality and be creative, even if they only make a couple of hundred $ a month. To a 19 year old that's still money they can pocket. How much of a distraction will this create on the sidelines and in the locker rooms? Student Athletes have enough on their plate as it is, now they are gonna try to side hustle so they can pocket some extra cash. You'll have the majority of your athletes trying to cash in on this it doesn't matter if they are the star athlete or the backup to the backup.

And it gives the schools a million different ways to funnel cash to recruits that won't be able to be traced because the vessel is legal. So the schools will be paying players, despite what others think.

Mrs. Jackson, not only will I treat your son like he's my own and make sure he gets a quality education, I also have a friend of the program that owns a chain of Wendy's restaurants in our area and he would love to sign up Junior to a six commercial deal for $400,000. So, can I count on him signing with State?

It's going to be a recruiting free for all. Heck, SMU might even get prominent again.

Also from gambling the players could benefit. Throw a game and make a jackpot.

(10-03-2019 06:17 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  The bill doesn’t allow players to get paid wages by the university it allows them to use their likeness for personal gain, i.e. YouTube channels, selling autographs, they would have to be paid royalties if a Jersey/poster of them is sold.

At first I was thinking this would be the end of college athletics. But the bill says they can be paid for their likeness...not by the universities but by "boosters" the outside world. Their is still a finite of college football slots. Same athlete population. It will probably make a significant divide between the 1st tier P5 and the 2nd tier P5. G5 schools in a metro area might actually benefit from it, who knows? But I am pretty certain the "Portal" will go ape poop whenever their is a break out player at any level especially the G5.

I will have to see what happens, but I have lost all interest in professional sports and depending on what intended and unintended consequences of this move...I could lose interest in college as well. Luckily I live in South Florida and their are plenty of alternative hobbies available pretty much year around to apply my time and money to.

(10-03-2019 11:28 AM)blazer-J Wrote:  I think this is bad news.

How are they going to police a booster going and buying $10k worth of Tua autographs? How will they stop coaches in recruiting from saying, even our third team players make $X on autographs.

On a side note - how long before we have a former player facing tax evasion charges crying at a press conference because 'he didn't know' he had to pay taxes on those earning.

why is the NCAA relevant when the big boys can give 'em the finga and tell 'em to fk themselves....we'll do it our way....we don't need you....

@capiche

(10-03-2019 05:05 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  Also from gambling the players could benefit. Throw a game and make a jackpot.

(10-03-2019 06:17 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  The bill doesn’t allow players to get paid wages by the university it allows them to use their likeness for personal gain, i.e. YouTube channels, selling autographs, they would have to be paid royalties if a Jersey/poster of them is sold.

that won't happen in the new version.....

#toomuchtoolose

(10-03-2019 04:55 PM)banker Wrote:  Mrs. Jackson, not only will I treat your son like he's my own and make sure he gets a quality education, I also have a friend of the program that owns a chain of Wendy's restaurants in our area and he would love to sign up Junior to a six commercial deal for $400,000. So, can I count on him signing with State?

It's going to be a recruiting free for all. Heck, SMU might even get prominent again.

or Rice's endowment....

(10-03-2019 11:28 AM)blazer-J Wrote:  I think this is bad news.

How are they going to police a booster going and buying $10k worth of Tua autographs? How will they stop coaches in recruiting from saying, even our third team players make $X on autographs.

On a side note - how long before we have a former player facing tax evasion charges crying at a press conference because 'he didn't know' he had to pay taxes on those earning.

It doesnt police this behavior in any way. In fact, the whole point of the law is to protect a players right to do just that--earn money from his name, image, and likeness--via endorsement deals, jersey/merchandise sales, social media channels, or personal appearances. Its going to be the wild west---and expect any 2-star diamond in the rough who develops into an impact player at a smaller school to look to "cash in" his last 3 years of eligibility at a "big money booster" school. The interesting thing about this is NONE of the schools are for it--not even the P5's. Out in Cali, all the schools fought against it---but they lost the legislative battle. Its not good for the sport and even they know it.

(10-03-2019 07:03 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Jordan brand is already giving football players basketball shoes as a recruiting tool.

next thing you know, a school will set up fake classes for athletes and get away with it!

Actually, the latter has already occurred, unless you are hinting at something else.

(10-04-2019 12:22 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 11:28 AM)blazer-J Wrote:  I think this is bad news.

How are they going to police a booster going and buying $10k worth of Tua autographs? How will they stop coaches in recruiting from saying, even our third team players make $X on autographs.

On a side note - how long before we have a former player facing tax evasion charges crying at a press conference because 'he didn't know' he had to pay taxes on those earning.

It doesnt police this behavior in any way. In fact, the whole point of the law is to protect a players right to do just that--earn money from his name, image, and likeness--via endorsement deals, jersey/merchandise sales, social media channels, or personal appearances. Its going to be the wild west---and expect any 2-star diamond in the rough who develops into an impact player at a smaller school to look to "cash in" his last 3 years of eligibility at a "big money booster" school. The interesting thing about this is NONE of the schools are for it--not even the P5's. Out in Cali, all the schools fought against it---but they lost the legislative battle. Its not good for the sport and even they know it.

naw man....it's not good for the hierarchy....that's why they lobbied against....

as too many already knew long ago.....

(10-04-2019 07:30 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(10-03-2019 07:03 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says Jordan brand is already giving football players basketball shoes as a recruiting tool.

next thing you know, a school will set up fake classes for athletes and get away with it!

Actually, the latter has already occurred, unless you are hinting at something else.

(10-03-2019 11:28 AM)blazer-J Wrote:  I think this is bad news.

How are they going to police a booster going and buying $10k worth of Tua autographs? How will they stop coaches in recruiting from saying, even our third team players make $X on autographs.

On a side note - how long before we have a former player facing tax evasion charges crying at a press conference because 'he didn't know' he had to pay taxes on those earning.

I do think that if enacted, this would be the perfect opportunity for schools to...yanno...educate players on how to manage their finances. But why would I think something like that could happen?

Imagine this guy getting paid 6 figures for his "likeness" over at ut-obKNOXiousville

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/01/universit...t-at-cops/

The dumbing down of America, where sports are more important than "skool"

There never was a law that prohibited players from monetizing their likeness. It just would nullified their amateur status and make them ineligible to play under NCAA rules. The NCAA can say you can monetize all you want but if you want to play we recommend you don't! If you are philosophically against the NCAA you don't have to play college sports. My recommendation to college athletes don't let the system take advantage of you, get a real degree. Don't let them put you in basket weaving classes.

(10-04-2019 11:13 AM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  Imagine this guy getting paid 6 figures for his "likeness" over at ut-obKNOXiousville

https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/01/universit...t-at-cops/

I wonder what his major is? Fifteenth century French poetry? Criminal justice?