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We were really comparing Kent State vs SBU. Can you project SBU winning the MAC in the past 4 years. I do not.
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(04-22-2020 10:40 AM)GFlash68 Wrote:  We were really comparing Kent State vs SBU. Can you project SBU winning the MAC in the past 4 years. I do not.

Agree ... short of a hot conference tournament run (which any good team can have) the Bonnies are = to Kent State at best. So in summation, he went to a better conference, but only a comparable team at best. And considering that team returns a bulk of freshmen/sophomore guards is he really in a better position than he would have been at Kent - especially if the immediate eligibility rule comes to fruition?

Recently saw ARoberts had an offer from Northwestern in the B10, along with Arizona State in P12 which also begs the ??? why the Bonnies.

What hasn't been questioned is if there were issues inside the team that led AR to transfer. Haven't heard anything, but who knows. Again, if one or two of the jucos prove to be solid, his 13 ppg won't necessarily be missed.
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(04-22-2020 10:40 AM)GFlash68 Wrote:  We were really comparing Kent State vs SBU. Can you project SBU winning the MAC in the past 4 years. I do not.

I’m not sure a Kent/SBU comparison is what’s critical. When a player transfers for basketball reasons he’s looking at trying to improve his pro prospects. If he cared about the specific team he probably wouldn’t transfer in the first place. Playing in the A10 will get you more publicity. The league is better and is much more a city league. The DeKalb, Mt. Pleasant, Athens, etc. press don’t have a national audience. Do I think this particular player will take advantage of this. Probably not but if he wants to try why not?
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(04-22-2020 10:40 AM)GFlash68 Wrote:  We were really comparing Kent State vs SBU. Can you project SBU winning the MAC in the past 4 years. I do not.

That's a little bit of a loaded question because Buffalo wasn't a typical MAC team for a couple years in that span. However, SBU was 26-8 two years ago which ranked them 68th on kenpom. The top MAC team that year was UB who was 27-9 and ranked 67th. So thinking they could've won the MAC within the last 3 years (let alone 4) seems very realistic. That same year we were 17-17 ranked 211th. And that summer Roberts picked us over SBU.

I love Kent as much as anyone here, but come on, let's be realistic.
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(04-22-2020 12:39 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(04-22-2020 10:40 AM)GFlash68 Wrote:  We were really comparing Kent State vs SBU. Can you project SBU winning the MAC in the past 4 years. I do not.

That's a little bit of a loaded question because Buffalo wasn't a typical MAC team for a couple years in that span. However, SBU was 26-8 two years ago which ranked them 68th on kenpom. The top MAC team that year was UB who was 27-9 and ranked 67th. So thinking they could've won the MAC within the last 3 years (let alone 4) seems very realistic. That same year we were 17-17 ranked 211th. And that summer Roberts picked us over SBU.

I love Kent as much as anyone here, but come on, let's be realistic.

Jee-zus ... I gotta find something else to do ....

However, while I trust Kenpoms numbers as much as any, I also know what I see. That 17-17 Kent team and roster was as much a reflection of the times (unevern with new faces in new places) as much as talent. When that team was good, they were well better than 211.

That team beat (a bad) Oregon State team out of the PAC 12 during the regular season and beat league champ Buffalo as well (also lost to them twice).

And if not for transfer (ADR) and injury (DP) - on paper - would have been a definite threat to UB the following season. Such is life.

You are what your numbers say you are ... and that was definitely a .500 team. But...
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(04-22-2020 01:23 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
(04-22-2020 12:39 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(04-22-2020 10:40 AM)GFlash68 Wrote:  We were really comparing Kent State vs SBU. Can you project SBU winning the MAC in the past 4 years. I do not.

That's a little bit of a loaded question because Buffalo wasn't a typical MAC team for a couple years in that span. However, SBU was 26-8 two years ago which ranked them 68th on kenpom. The top MAC team that year was UB who was 27-9 and ranked 67th. So thinking they could've won the MAC within the last 3 years (let alone 4) seems very realistic. That same year we were 17-17 ranked 211th. And that summer Roberts picked us over SBU.

I love Kent as much as anyone here, but come on, let's be realistic.

Jee-zus ... I gotta find something else to do ....

However, while I trust Kenpoms numbers as much as any, I also know what I see. That 17-17 Kent team and roster was as much a reflection of the times (unevern with new faces in new places) as much as talent. When that team was good, they were well better than 211.

That team beat (a bad) Oregon State team out of the PAC 12 during the regular season and beat league champ Buffalo as well (also lost to them twice).

And if not for transfer (ADR) and injury (DP) - on paper - would have been a definite threat to UB the following season. Such is life.

You are what your numbers say you are ... and that was definitely a .500 team. But...

I don't disagree with any of that. My point is simply that that SBU team would've been good enough to possibly win the MAC that year.

PS. They played eventual MAC champ Buffalo at Buffalo that year and won by 11.
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All I know is that unless Roberts was really unhappy here for whatever reason, it doesn't seem like a good move. If he wanted out because he was unhappy, then maybe he will be happy at his new school. If he wanted out because he thought he could play at a higher level, it really wasn't much of a jump.
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(04-22-2020 01:23 PM)cleveland Wrote:  
(04-22-2020 12:39 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(04-22-2020 10:40 AM)GFlash68 Wrote:  We were really comparing Kent State vs SBU. Can you project SBU winning the MAC in the past 4 years. I do not.

That's a little bit of a loaded question because Buffalo wasn't a typical MAC team for a couple years in that span. However, SBU was 26-8 two years ago which ranked them 68th on kenpom. The top MAC team that year was UB who was 27-9 and ranked 67th. So thinking they could've won the MAC within the last 3 years (let alone 4) seems very realistic. That same year we were 17-17 ranked 211th. And that summer Roberts picked us over SBU.

I love Kent as much as anyone here, but come on, let's be realistic.

Jee-zus ... I gotta find something else to do ....

However, while I trust Kenpoms numbers as much as any, I also know what I see. That 17-17 Kent team and roster was as much a reflection of the times (unevern with new faces in new places) as much as talent. When that team was good, they were well better than 211.

That team beat (a bad) Oregon State team out of the PAC 12 during the regular season and beat league champ Buffalo as well (also lost to them twice).

And if not for transfer (ADR) and injury (DP) - on paper - would have been a definite threat to UB the following season. Such is life.

You are what your numbers say you are ... and that was definitely a .500 team. But...

Good luck finding something else to do.
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(04-22-2020 05:49 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  All I know is that unless Roberts was really unhappy here for whatever reason, it doesn't seem like a good move. If he wanted out because he was unhappy, then maybe he will be happy at his new school. If he wanted out because he thought he could play at a higher level, it really wasn't much of a jump.

This I agree with 100%
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Looks like we added a walk-on today. 6'1" HS PG Michael DiGuilio from NY. Here's his highlight film. Looks like a righty that can drive and finish with either hand. Doesn't appear to be overly athletic but looks shifty with the ball. Solid highlights and real nice looking stats for a walk-on. I won't act like I know anything about different HS basketball leagues in NY though.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KCOBjavAMs...e=youtu.be

I haven't seen anything to indicate Jon King is leaving so I'd guess we'll have these two as out walk-ons this year.
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That's awesome. I've been hoping we'd get him for awhile.
Everything I've read about him is really positive but he's only 5'10" so it's held back his recruitment a bit. I know OU had offered him as well. 5'10" is fine for PG in the MAC. Of course he comes from a family of 6'4"+ men so we also shouldn't rule out a late growth spurt. Some really great players got to where they are because they didn't grow until late so they had to learn to be effective without having a size advantage in HS.
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