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RE: Who could replace BW?
OK. Who's available? Who should we call? Should the Assistants be promoted to HC? My first call would still be to McNeil, I liked the sound of Beamer too. Its getting real now...
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ODU2011
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 05:59 PM)monarx Wrote: OK. Who's available? Who should we call? Should the Assistants be promoted to HC? My first call would still be to McNeil, I liked the sound of Beamer too. Its getting real now...
I like your thoughts. Also in before the “we can’t afford him” lazy argument folks.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 06:23 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: (11-30-2019 05:59 PM)monarx Wrote: OK. Who's available? Who should we call? Should the Assistants be promoted to HC? My first call would still be to McNeil, I liked the sound of Beamer too. Its getting real now...
I like your thoughts. Also in before the “we can’t afford him” lazy argument folks.
Far from a lazy argument. When the term hemorrhaging is used to define the money situation, you know better than to think we are going to get some big name guy here.
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monarx
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 06:30 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:23 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: (11-30-2019 05:59 PM)monarx Wrote: OK. Who's available? Who should we call? Should the Assistants be promoted to HC? My first call would still be to McNeil, I liked the sound of Beamer too. Its getting real now...
I like your thoughts. Also in before the “we can’t afford him” lazy argument folks.
Far from a lazy argument. When the term hemorrhaging is used to define the money situation, you know better than to think we are going to get some big name guy here.
If we cant afford a good coach, we cant afford to be FBS football. Its an investment. ODU has proven it has supportive fans by selling out the stadium 8 years in a row. If this team starts winning again soon, the fans will come back. They will pay for tickets, buy stuff, and donate more. The money will come in when the wins do.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
No one knows anything.
But I can't wait to hear the opinions of people that, despite posting a lot, have been wrong about more things ODU than they have been right about.
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11-30-2019 06:42 PM |
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ODU2011
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 06:30 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:23 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: (11-30-2019 05:59 PM)monarx Wrote: OK. Who's available? Who should we call? Should the Assistants be promoted to HC? My first call would still be to McNeil, I liked the sound of Beamer too. Its getting real now...
I like your thoughts. Also in before the “we can’t afford him” lazy argument folks.
Far from a lazy argument. When the term hemorrhaging is used to define the money situation, you know better than to think we are going to get some big name guy here.
Nope. It is a lazy argument. Don’t base your argument on losing money from bad attendance. Any program in the country does worse when they don’t sell tickets. Go re read the article.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 06:42 PM)djnva Wrote: No one knows anything.
But I can't wait to hear the opinions of people that, despite posting a lot, have been wrong about more things ODU than they have been right about.
This .. it’s easier to play the game behind a keyboard
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RE: Who could replace BW?
Why so salty? Guessing, assuming, speculating, that is precisely what this board is for. Luckily none of us has to make a decision and be held accountable. You guys act like our opinions matter.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
Would love to see Graham Harrell as our next Head Coach
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 06:30 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:23 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: (11-30-2019 05:59 PM)monarx Wrote: OK. Who's available? Who should we call? Should the Assistants be promoted to HC? My first call would still be to McNeil, I liked the sound of Beamer too. Its getting real now...
I like your thoughts. Also in before the “we can’t afford him” lazy argument folks.
Far from a lazy argument. When the term hemorrhaging is used to define the money situation, you know better than to think we are going to get some big name guy here.
You know how you aren't going to fix that problem? By crying poor and hiring a mediocre coach who doesn't inspire the fans and doesn't transform the program, leaving you with a half empty stadium and a football team nobody cares about . You have to spend money to make money. Get it done admin! That's what you're paid for.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 07:00 PM)Obiwan Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:42 PM)djnva Wrote: No one knows anything.
But I can't wait to hear the opinions of people that, despite posting a lot, have been wrong about more things ODU than they have been right about.
This .. it’s easier to play the game behind a keyboard
Many people here run businesses and understand how to grow a brand and how to manage a budget. Our admin clearly do not.
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djnva
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 08:06 PM)VB Monarch Wrote: Why so salty? Guessing, assuming, speculating, that is precisely what this board is for. Luckily none of us has to make a decision and be held accountable. You guys act like our opinions matter.
If this is in reply to me, I have no problem with any of that.
The holier than thou posters that generally are wrong more often than not are annoying. We all read them, know their track record, and most of us ignore them. But others interact and the whole discussion spirals down.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 08:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:30 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:23 PM)ODU2011 Wrote: (11-30-2019 05:59 PM)monarx Wrote: OK. Who's available? Who should we call? Should the Assistants be promoted to HC? My first call would still be to McNeil, I liked the sound of Beamer too. Its getting real now...
I like your thoughts. Also in before the “we can’t afford him” lazy argument folks.
Far from a lazy argument. When the term hemorrhaging is used to define the money situation, you know better than to think we are going to get some big name guy here.
You know how you aren't going to fix that problem? By crying poor and hiring a mediocre coach who doesn't inspire the fans and doesn't transform the program, leaving you with a half empty stadium and a football team nobody cares about . You have to spend money to make money. Get it done admin! That's what you're paid for.
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No more throwing good money after bad. Time to swallow the pride, admit the mistake, and take a knee.
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Who could replace BW?
Art Link
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RE: Who could replace BW?
Art Link?
If we’re going to hire a D3 coach who has only been the head man for two years, let’s just keep Bobby.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 10:21 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Art Link?
If we’re going to hire a D3 coach who has only been the head man for two years, let’s just keep Bobby.
Do you know him or anything about him? He's young, energetic, super bright, has young kids in good schools, wouldn't have to move, and we can afford him. He played at Florida and has a lot of experience with steadily increased responsibilities. We aren't getting Nick Saban. Art Link will do better than a retread.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
Just for fun:
Chris Beatty
Chip West
Pete Lembo
Dre Bly
Willie Taggart
Jay Bateman
Marques Hagans
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11-30-2019 10:35 PM |
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-25-2019 02:58 PM)GotLabradors Wrote: (11-25-2019 01:22 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: (11-25-2019 01:10 PM)84Monarch Wrote: (11-24-2019 11:33 AM)Monarchblue Wrote: (11-23-2019 11:24 PM)84Monarch Wrote: Care to expound?
He is a dinosaur. Tech's offense was terrible minus Mike Vick under him. Beamer ball is a thing of the past. If he was good enough to be a head coach somewhere he wouldn't be the run game coordinator at ODU. He can recruit his ass off, so he is a solid guy to have on staff, but he can't be anywhere near the decision making process on offense. Frankly, I feel like his influence is at least partly responsible for the fact that an offense that has never really been worse than average was completely overhauled and turned into the worst offense in college football in his first year on staff.
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I don't think a coach in his mid-50s is a dinosaur. Good defense, special teams and non-spread offense is not a thing of the past (i.e. Beamer Ball). I don't think so, having those tenents right makes for a good foot ball team.
I get that Tech fans were not enamored with him as OC and I understand that, but play calling and being able to communicate and coach are not the same thing. He is good coach and outstanding recruiter. Most head coaches at this level and not calling the plays themselves, their OC is with the HC chiming in. The HC is the face of the program and runs the entire program, plus coaching.
As for him being responsible for our offensive woes I am not sure I get. Scott's lack of recruiting, imaginative formations and attrocious play calling has been going on for years. We are now paying the price for this. To try and blame a guy who has been here 11 months is a stretch.
Due to his years of involvement with a very successful VT program, qualifies him more than our current HC at this level of college football. Why not give him a chance.
He could be 25 and he would still be a dinosaur. Name one team that wins at a high level that throws the ball 14 times a game and tries to run between the tackles all day. Ask Ed O at LSU how the transition from dinosaur ball to a modern offense has worked out for his #1 LSU team. If you want to see what dinosaur ball looks like at ODU, look no further than the first half of this season... and you don't think that a Former OC as HC is going to influence the type of offensive system that is run?
I'll throw in my .02.
You hire a guy like Stinespring for his ability to recruit good players and sell the program to donors. Then you let him hire the staff he wants. I am sure Stinespring has a ton of connections to FBS caliber coaches. Stinespring recruited a good amount of the talent that made the VT program what it is today. Sometimes, the average fan doesn't understand the business of football or college sports for that matter. Sometimes the posters on this board just don't get that TPTB don't really care what the average fan wants.
Just as a sidebar, if y'all haven't figured out we have a coaching staff within a coaching staff, then y'all haven't been paying attention.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
I say we make a hard run at Bud Foster.
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RE: Who could replace BW?
(11-30-2019 11:30 PM)Fatalisk Wrote: I say we make a hard run at Bud Foster.
We don't want that ...
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