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RE: Alabama #1, SMU ranked for first time since Death Penalty
(10-02-2019 07:37 AM)cubucks Wrote:  
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(10-01-2019 07:39 AM)cubucks Wrote:  
(09-30-2019 11:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  It doesn't matter who #1 is halfway through the season...especially when that ranking comes from an outlet that doesn't pick the CFP participants. The Committee will produce their own rankings and they haven't compiled one yet. The AP ranking literally doesn't matter.

Feel free to argue away, but here is how things will play out...

There are a handful of teams that will be in the playoff if they win out...Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. Obviously, not all of these can win out, but you get the point.

SOS is variable so it can't be accurately calculated until the end of the season. With that said, Alabama and Clemson have at least 2 common opponents this year...Texas A&M and South Carolina. Neither of those teams have looked particularly good, but committee members will consider the performance against both teams when they offer up their final rankings.

There might be a 3rd common opponent if Duke wins their division. There's a lot of football to play, but an argument could be made that Duke is the 2nd best team in the ACC. A steep drop off from #1 certainly, but at this point the only other reasonable contender for that #2 slot is Virginia. UVA struggled against Old Dominion and competed well with Notre Dame so who knows what they really are. You could make an argument for Wake Forest at this point as well, but they're in the same division with Clemson so that would be a moot point.

It is some advantage to be in Atlanta over Phoenix, but consider the possibility that neither Alabama nor Clemson will be in the top 2. It all depends on the rest of the games and how this plays out. Even if Clemson goes undefeated, they might not be #1 because their conference is weak. There are others that could knock them off the perch for the top spot going into the CFP.

Wow, didn't realize the list was so small of undefeated teams who can still make the playoffs.

I just point those out because they have the cache. Their programs are consistently strong and their conference membership either helps or doesn't detract.

Looking at the rankings, I guess throw Penn State in there...didn't realize they were still undefeated. I'm tempted to say Wisconsin, but they didn't play a P5 out of conference and their division doesn't do them any favors.
Wisconsin, Baylor and Penn State are in if they are undefeated.

Wake Forest and Boise State are very much in the conversation too.

Florida obviously is, but they are way overrated at this point.

Having 4 schools from that one conference and overlooking everybody else is the norm that's getting old.

Message board talk, at the end of the day what you and I say doesn't really matter.

The only way an undefeated P5 champ misses the playoffs is if there are 4 other undefeated P5 champs, or 3 other undefeated P5 champs and an undefeated Notre Dame.

Since that can't happen this year, it's axiomatic that any still-unbeaten P5 team that runs the table will make the playoffs. Doesn't matter if it's Georgia or Wake Forest, Ohio State or Baylor.
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(10-02-2019 07:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 07:37 AM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 04:59 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(10-01-2019 07:39 AM)cubucks Wrote:  
(09-30-2019 11:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  It doesn't matter who #1 is halfway through the season...especially when that ranking comes from an outlet that doesn't pick the CFP participants. The Committee will produce their own rankings and they haven't compiled one yet. The AP ranking literally doesn't matter.

Feel free to argue away, but here is how things will play out...

There are a handful of teams that will be in the playoff if they win out...Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. Obviously, not all of these can win out, but you get the point.

SOS is variable so it can't be accurately calculated until the end of the season. With that said, Alabama and Clemson have at least 2 common opponents this year...Texas A&M and South Carolina. Neither of those teams have looked particularly good, but committee members will consider the performance against both teams when they offer up their final rankings.

There might be a 3rd common opponent if Duke wins their division. There's a lot of football to play, but an argument could be made that Duke is the 2nd best team in the ACC. A steep drop off from #1 certainly, but at this point the only other reasonable contender for that #2 slot is Virginia. UVA struggled against Old Dominion and competed well with Notre Dame so who knows what they really are. You could make an argument for Wake Forest at this point as well, but they're in the same division with Clemson so that would be a moot point.

It is some advantage to be in Atlanta over Phoenix, but consider the possibility that neither Alabama nor Clemson will be in the top 2. It all depends on the rest of the games and how this plays out. Even if Clemson goes undefeated, they might not be #1 because their conference is weak. There are others that could knock them off the perch for the top spot going into the CFP.

Wow, didn't realize the list was so small of undefeated teams who can still make the playoffs.

I just point those out because they have the cache. Their programs are consistently strong and their conference membership either helps or doesn't detract.

Looking at the rankings, I guess throw Penn State in there...didn't realize they were still undefeated. I'm tempted to say Wisconsin, but they didn't play a P5 out of conference and their division doesn't do them any favors.
Wisconsin, Baylor and Penn State are in if they are undefeated.

Wake Forest and Boise State are very much in the conversation too.

Florida obviously is, but they are way overrated at this point.

Having 4 schools from that one conference and overlooking everybody else is the norm that's getting old.

Message board talk, at the end of the day what you and I say doesn't really matter.

The only way an undefeated P5 champ misses the playoffs is if there are 4 other undefeated P5 champs, or 3 other undefeated P5 champs and an undefeated Notre Dame.

Since that can't happen this year, it's axiomatic that any still-unbeaten P5 team that runs the table will make the playoffs. Doesn't matter if it's Georgia or Wake Forest, Ohio State or Baylor.
I know, that's my point.
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(09-30-2019 10:54 AM)stever20 Wrote:  another funny touchstone for our younger folks.... Drake was born on October 24th, 1986.

Who is Drake?

he's that Musician from Toronto who was all involved in the NBA finals stuff last spring.... I have never heard him but I think he's popular.

Cuse fan too along with the Arrow(Robbie Amell)! Who is also younger than SMU's last poll appearance

Robbie’s cousin Stephen Amell actually plays Oliver Queen aka The Arrow. Robbie plays The Flash
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RE: Alabama #1, SMU ranked for first time since Death Penalty
(10-02-2019 07:37 AM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 04:59 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(10-01-2019 07:39 AM)cubucks Wrote:  
(09-30-2019 11:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  It doesn't matter who #1 is halfway through the season...especially when that ranking comes from an outlet that doesn't pick the CFP participants. The Committee will produce their own rankings and they haven't compiled one yet. The AP ranking literally doesn't matter.

Feel free to argue away, but here is how things will play out...

There are a handful of teams that will be in the playoff if they win out...Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Florida, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. Obviously, not all of these can win out, but you get the point.

SOS is variable so it can't be accurately calculated until the end of the season. With that said, Alabama and Clemson have at least 2 common opponents this year...Texas A&M and South Carolina. Neither of those teams have looked particularly good, but committee members will consider the performance against both teams when they offer up their final rankings.

There might be a 3rd common opponent if Duke wins their division. There's a lot of football to play, but an argument could be made that Duke is the 2nd best team in the ACC. A steep drop off from #1 certainly, but at this point the only other reasonable contender for that #2 slot is Virginia. UVA struggled against Old Dominion and competed well with Notre Dame so who knows what they really are. You could make an argument for Wake Forest at this point as well, but they're in the same division with Clemson so that would be a moot point.

It is some advantage to be in Atlanta over Phoenix, but consider the possibility that neither Alabama nor Clemson will be in the top 2. It all depends on the rest of the games and how this plays out. Even if Clemson goes undefeated, they might not be #1 because their conference is weak. There are others that could knock them off the perch for the top spot going into the CFP.

Wow, didn't realize the list was so small of undefeated teams who can still make the playoffs.

I just point those out because they have the cache. Their programs are consistently strong and their conference membership either helps or doesn't detract.

Looking at the rankings, I guess throw Penn State in there...didn't realize they were still undefeated. I'm tempted to say Wisconsin, but they didn't play a P5 out of conference and their division doesn't do them any favors.
Wisconsin, Baylor and Penn State are in if they are undefeated.

Wake Forest and Boise State are very much in the conversation too.

Florida obviously is, but they are way overrated at this point.

Having 4 schools from that one conference and overlooking everybody else is the norm that's getting old.

Message board talk, at the end of the day what you and I say doesn't really matter.

I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

That's the way the committee operates whether people think it's fair or not.

I would also agree that Florida is overrated, but it's a hypothetical exercise. I doubt they go undefeated. I also doubt Baylor or Minnesota or Iowa or Wake Forest go undefeated, but they would be considered if they did. But the committee will take a team that guarantees ratings if they can make an argument the team deserves to be in.
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RE: Alabama #1, SMU ranked for first time since Death Penalty
Ok, well stating this...
Quote:I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.
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(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...
Quote:I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
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(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...
Quote:I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.
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RE: Alabama #1, SMU ranked for first time since Death Penalty
(10-02-2019 03:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...
Quote:I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.

13-0 Iowa would mean wins over:
Iowa State
Michigan
Penn State
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska

Michigan State/Penn State or Ohio State.


They are in.
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RE: Alabama #1, SMU ranked for first time since Death Penalty
(10-02-2019 05:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...
Quote:I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.

13-0 Iowa would mean wins over:
Iowa State
Michigan
Penn State
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska

Michigan State/Penn State or Ohio State.


They are in.

Michigan could easily have 5 losses
Northwestern losing record
Minnesota could easily wind up with 4-5 losses
Nebraska losing record?

Only good wins would be really Wisconsin, Penn St, and then ??? in the title game... 1-2 top 15 teams.

Compare to say LSU. They'd have wins over Texas, Florida, and Auburn. 3 likely end of the year top 15 teams. They could be a divisional champion.

If the SEC winds up with 4 teams end of the year at 11-1 before the CCG, the odds of them getting 2 teams in are extremely high.
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(10-02-2019 03:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...
Quote:I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.

Um, you just did say it in the post above:
"If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out."
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(10-02-2019 05:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...
Quote:I'm not overlooking anyone. The point is that a program with cache will get the nod over a program that doesn't if the records are equal.

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.

Um, you just did say it in the post above:
"If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out."
Um, it's freaking impossible for all 3 to go undefeated. If any one of the three go undefeated they are not getting left out. Sorry you were unable to comprehend the obvious. Maybe if you go back and read the conversation between the Bama fan and myself you would understand.

This thread is become nothing more than lazy, false and supercilious with these posts.
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(10-02-2019 06:03 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
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(10-02-2019 03:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.

Um, you just did say it in the post above:
"If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out."
Um, it's freaking impossible for all 3 to go undefeated. If any one of the three go undefeated they are not getting left out. Sorry you were unable to comprehend the obvious. Maybe if you go back and read the conversation between the Bama fan and myself you would understand.

This thread is become nothing more than lazy, false and supercilious with these posts.

while I agree with you on Penn St and Wisconsin- I don't with Iowa. Their SOS is not that strong as those other 2 are....

Sorry but I really think if you have the SEC 4 all with 1 loss, Iowa is in trouble. The SEC would go in front of the committee with 3 teams with 1 loss- all 3 of them with very valid claims. I would say this as well.... Iowa's only chance would be to finish undefeated. They lose 1 game, and they have no chance.
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(10-02-2019 05:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 05:36 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 02:37 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Ok, well stating this...

Sounds better than what you originally posted.
If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out. They will have a nice sos and there are not enough undefeated teams to jump them.

If it came down to, let's say, an undefeated Georgia vs an undefeated Iowa for the last spot then yes, Georgia has a really good chance of getting the bid. That's not going to be the case this year though.

But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.

13-0 Iowa would mean wins over:
Iowa State
Michigan
Penn State
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska

Michigan State/Penn State or Ohio State.


They are in.

Michigan could easily have 5 losses
Northwestern losing record
Minnesota could easily wind up with 4-5 losses
Nebraska losing record?

Only good wins would be really Wisconsin, Penn St, and then ??? in the title game... 1-2 top 15 teams.

Compare to say LSU. They'd have wins over Texas, Florida, and Auburn. 3 likely end of the year top 15 teams. They could be a divisional champion.

If the SEC winds up with 4 teams end of the year at 11-1 before the CCG, the odds of them getting 2 teams in are extremely high.

Nope - an undefeated BIG team won't be left out, especially for a second SEC team.

Auburn, if Oregon runs the table, would get a look. The bottom 7 of the SEC is incredibly weak this year - SEC can't use the "run the gauntlet" excuse this year at all.
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And BTW - what has Florida done that is so impressive?

Yes, they are 5-0, but those five wins:
Squeaker over 2-2 Miami, who is not a good team
TWO FCS wins
Wins over BAD Kentucky and Terrible Tennessee.

Florida will get destroyed by LSU, Auburn and Georgia. Could lose at Missouri. They aren't top 25 material.


And if LSU is a divisional champ, they can't be 11-1
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(10-02-2019 06:08 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 06:03 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 05:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 03:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  But if it's say a 11-1 LSU vs 13-0 Iowa- i don't think it's a guarantee at all that Iowa gets the spot.
I didn't say it did.

Good grief, talk about spinning things from his original post to this.

Um, you just did say it in the post above:
"If Iowa, Penn State or Wisconsin go undefeated they are NOT getting left out."
Um, it's freaking impossible for all 3 to go undefeated. If any one of the three go undefeated they are not getting left out. Sorry you were unable to comprehend the obvious. Maybe if you go back and read the conversation between the Bama fan and myself you would understand.

This thread is become nothing more than lazy, false and supercilious with these posts.

while I agree with you on Penn St and Wisconsin- I don't with Iowa. Their SOS is not that strong as those other 2 are....

Sorry but I really think if you have the SEC 4 all with 1 loss, Iowa is in trouble. The SEC would go in front of the committee with 3 teams with 1 loss- all 3 of them with very valid claims. I would say this as well.... Iowa's only chance would be to finish undefeated. They lose 1 game, and they have no chance.
Exactly, that's all I was saying from the beginning. The whole darn discussion was that only Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Ohio State, Clemson and Oklahoma would be guaranteed a spot if they went undefeated according to the Bama guy.

That is completely FALSE. If somehow any of Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Florida and Baylor find a way to go undefeated they will 100% be in. Even over a 1 loss SEC team. It's a long shot for any of these teams to go undefeated but it's not impossible.

There can only be 1 undefeated team from each conference and the PAC is eliminated from that equation. So ANY team that goes undefeated in the BIG, SEC, BIG12 and ACC is guaranteed a spot. Do you see what I'm saying?
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(10-02-2019 06:20 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  And BTW - what has Florida done that is so impressive?

Yes, they are 5-0, but those five wins:
Squeaker over 2-2 Miami, who is not a good team
TWO FCS wins
Wins over BAD Kentucky and Terrible Tennessee.

Florida will get destroyed by LSU, Auburn and Georgia. Could lose at Missouri. They aren't top 25 material.


And if LSU is a divisional champ, they can't be 11-1
Been saying this for 2 weeks. Funny how Texas A&M is still ranked because their sos is so hard even with 2 losses. Well if sos matters so much for them why is Florida ranked ahead of all these schools with a much better sos? When I say I'm tired of the crap the polls, media, fans etc... are feeding us, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
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(10-02-2019 06:20 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  And BTW - what has Florida done that is so impressive?

Yes, they are 5-0, but those five wins:
Squeaker over 2-2 Miami, who is not a good team
TWO FCS wins
Wins over BAD Kentucky and Terrible Tennessee.

Florida will get destroyed by LSU, Auburn and Georgia. Could lose at Missouri. They aren't top 25 material.


And if LSU is a divisional champ, they can't be 11-1

LSU absolutely could be a co-divisional champ- with all home wins from the following....
Auburn beats Georgia(at Auburn)
LSU beats Auburn(at LSU)
Alabama beats LSU(at Alabama)
Auburn beats Alabama(at Auburn)

you'd have a 3 way tie for the west at 11-1. Auburn would get the tiebreaker and advance to the SEC title game. But especially LSU would be a very viable factor for making the playoffs. There's not many teams that beat them....
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(10-02-2019 06:27 PM)cubucks Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 06:20 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  And BTW - what has Florida done that is so impressive?

Yes, they are 5-0, but those five wins:
Squeaker over 2-2 Miami, who is not a good team
TWO FCS wins
Wins over BAD Kentucky and Terrible Tennessee.

Florida will get destroyed by LSU, Auburn and Georgia. Could lose at Missouri. They aren't top 25 material.


And if LSU is a divisional champ, they can't be 11-1
Been saying this for 2 weeks. Funny how Texas A&M is still ranked because their sos is so hard even with 2 losses. Well if sos matters so much for them why is Florida ranked ahead of all these schools with a much better sos? When I say I'm tired of the crap the polls, media, fans etc... are feeding us, this is exactly what I'm talking about.


Texas A&M is the other ranked team I have pointed out as WHY?
Wins of mighty Texas State, Arkansas, and Lamar.
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RE: Alabama #1, SMU ranked for first time since Death Penalty
And it's great how all of America always overlooks that team from Madison year in and year out.

You know, the team since the CFP era started has gone 53-15 and is 5-0 in bowl games. That's better than Penn State, Michigan, Florida State, Texas, Auburn, LSU, USC etc...
But nobody ever gives them much credit.

This game gets more corrupt every year!

Peace!
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RE: Alabama #1, SMU ranked for first time since Death Penalty
(10-02-2019 06:20 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  And BTW - what has Florida done that is so impressive?

Yes, they are 5-0, but those five wins:
Squeaker over 2-2 Miami, who is not a good team
TWO FCS wins
Wins over BAD Kentucky and Terrible Tennessee.

Florida will get destroyed by LSU, Auburn and Georgia. Could lose at Missouri. They aren't top 25 material.

In the context of the "win-out" discussion, they would have beaten LSU, Auburn, Georgia and would have beaten the Western Division champion, which hypothetically would be impressive.

I don't expect them to ... I don't actually expect them to be part of the "win-out" discussion after Oct 6th, never mind their big in-division match-up on Nov. 3rd ... but in that case they drop out of the "win out" discussion.
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