(08-20-2019 01:04 PM)odu09 Wrote: (08-20-2019 12:48 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: Umm, thats the point. The teams I mentioned would have been if they beat us.
I didn't read that you were only taking FBS wins in your calculations. Seems like you are narrowing down your choices to your desired output.
You are suggesting that beating teams that are at or near .500 is an accomplishment. It's not. And having only 5 of them in 5 years is pretty bad, even if you decide to increase it to 7 based on your criteria.
And yes, the OP was considering records vs FBS teams. It's not to reach a desired output, it's to compare apples to apples. Why should a victory against an FCS team as a full FBS team be counted as a strength?
Compare this our peers. How many wins did other startups have vs. .500 or better teams in their first 5 years?
Not going through every team. Charlotte has 12 wins total in 4 years (12-36 overall).
WKY had 18 wins total. (18-37)
UTSA had 22 wins total (22-26)
Georgia Southern had 35 wins total (35-27)
UMASS had 10 wins total (10-50)
Georgia State had 17 wins total (17-44)
In general, any wins by FBS startups within the first few years is an accomplishment. Im not sure how many over .500 wins those teams had (really pointless), but I would put our startup record against all of those outside of Georgia Southern (and possibly others I can't think of off the top of head).
I agree, now that we have a new (renovated) stadium and we are 5 years in, we are moving out of the startup phase. But, if you want to talk track record (ignoring FCS, which was outstanding), our track record for the first 5 years in the FBS is really good..whether you look at wins, wins vs. .500, wins vs. FBS, wins vs. P5, etc. Wilder is going to have to have consistent winners in the very near future...if you want to judge him based on track record overall, it's been very good. People, for some reason, expected us to be an established program right out of the gate. Was that because we were so good in FCS out of the gate? We've been spoiled.