(09-29-2019 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  sure, if they give us a schedule of: Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss State, Vandy, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Mizzou every year...plus that 40 million dollars.

except for SC, that would be the ideal regional schedule

Yes

(09-29-2019 01:11 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 12:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  sure, if they give us a schedule of: Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss State, Vandy, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Mizzou every year...plus that 40 million dollars.

except for SC, that would be the ideal regional schedule

I don't want any part of Bama, Auburn, LSU, or Florida lol...so SC it is!

Saban won't live forever...

Our BBall program would immediately be elevated to a virtually guaranteed top 10 program. Every year.

Our FBall program would be immediately elevated to a top-40 program (annually). Guaranteed.

How many $EC recruits would Ole Myth, Mi$take and Arkan$a$ lose to us if we were in the $EC?

My goodness, Arkan$a$ is awful with all of that money, imagine how bad they would be if recruits knew that Memphis was going to be in the $EC.

If you're a recruit from Mississippi, where would you want to play?

Starkville and play $EC competition or

Memphis and play $EC competition?

Talk about an easy recruiting war to win!

they should be begging us

R U KORAZZZZI
Of course we would, but it ain't happening. EVER

(09-29-2019 08:37 AM)cmt Wrote:  On the heals of Mississippi's loss to Alabama and our big win over Navy to stay undefeated, I have to wonder if we are better off not being in the SEC.

We'd gets millions of dollars more, yep. We'd definitely field a better team, absolutely. We'd be on national TV more, sure. We'd fair better than Mississippi or Mississippi State or Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky, probably.

But since 1962, Mississippi's NC year...57 years ago (or, as long as this old man has been alive), Mississippi has gone 8-34 against Alabama (23.5%), 16-31 against LSU plus 2 ties (51.6%) and 6-26 against Auburn (23.0%) and 48-12-2 against Memphis (25.0% for us)

So, we've done better against the all powerful SEC's Ole Miss without SEC money, than Ole Miss has done against Auburn or Alabama with all that SEC money.

I just don't understand how fans of teams like Mississippi or Vanderbilt could possibly care about their team. They start the season knowing they'll lose to Auburn or Alabama or LSU or A&M or Georgia or Florida or, more than likely, all or most of them. They already know they won't make the conference championship. They already know they will be 3rd or 4th or 5th in their division at best, maybe dead last.

At least we have a chance to win our conference and to go to a good bowl game. And, since we are unjustly excluded from the opportunity to play for a national championship, it doesn't really matter.

I would jump at the B12 or ACC or SEC, should that opportunity ever present itself. But I'm just not sure our seasons will truly be any more fun than they are right now.

The thing some people who think along these lines forget is, IF were were in the SEC, it wouldn't be the end of the world if we lose a conference game like it is now. You can win the SEC west (when Alabama isn't what they are now, which is a bit skewed from the norm over time) with a loss on your record. You can even go to the playoffs with a regular season loss. Even if you don't make it to the playoffs, you can still make a NY6 bowl. As it stands right now, if we lose even ONE game, we are toast from a national perspective. We may still win the AAC West, but as we saw last year, we still would not have made the access spot had we won the CCG.

This is what bothers me the most about the P5/G5 situation. All of us fans of G5 schools are stressed out over having to be perfect through the season. P5 fans don't know that feeling.

Yes. Next question.

We have tied for one American championship, and you guys think we'd be Top Ten consistently if we were in the SEC?

I need some new blue glasses.

(09-29-2019 08:37 AM)cmt Wrote:  On the heals of Mississippi's loss to Alabama and our big win over Navy to stay undefeated, I have to wonder if we are better off not being in the SEC.

We'd gets millions of dollars more, yep. We'd definitely field a better team, absolutely. We'd be on national TV more, sure. We'd fair better than Mississippi or Mississippi State or Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky, probably.

But since 1962, Mississippi's NC year...57 years ago (or, as long as this old man has been alive), Mississippi has gone 8-34 against Alabama (23.5%), 16-31 against LSU plus 2 ties (51.6%) and 6-26 against Auburn (23.0%) and 48-12-2 against Memphis (25.0% for us)

So, we've done better against the all powerful SEC's Ole Miss without SEC money, than Ole Miss has done against Auburn or Alabama with all that SEC money.

I just don't understand how fans of teams like Mississippi or Vanderbilt could possibly care about their team. They start the season knowing they'll lose to Auburn or Alabama or LSU or A&M or Georgia or Florida or, more than likely, all or most of them. They already know they won't make the conference championship. They already know they will be 3rd or 4th or 5th in their division at best, maybe dead last.

At least we have a chance to win our conference and to go to a good bowl game. And, since we are unjustly excluded from the opportunity to play for a national championship, it doesn't really matter.

I would jump at the B12 or ACC or SEC, should that opportunity ever present itself. But I'm just not sure our seasons will truly be any more fun than they are right now.

It's "heels" and, yes, we'd be crazy if we had a shot at those revenues and turned them down.

(09-29-2019 08:37 AM)cmt Wrote:  On the heals of Mississippi's loss to Alabama and our big win over Navy to stay undefeated, I have to wonder if we are better off not being in the SEC.

We'd gets millions of dollars more, yep. We'd definitely field a better team, absolutely. We'd be on national TV more, sure. We'd fair better than Mississippi or Mississippi State or Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky, probably.

But since 1962, Mississippi's NC year...57 years ago (or, as long as this old man has been alive), Mississippi has gone 8-34 against Alabama (23.5%), 16-31 against LSU plus 2 ties (51.6%) and 6-26 against Auburn (23.0%) and 48-12-2 against Memphis (25.0% for us)

So, we've done better against the all powerful SEC's Ole Miss without SEC money, than Ole Miss has done against Auburn or Alabama with all that SEC money.

I just don't understand how fans of teams like Mississippi or Vanderbilt could possibly care about their team. They start the season knowing they'll lose to Auburn or Alabama or LSU or A&M or Georgia or Florida or, more than likely, all or most of them. They already know they won't make the conference championship. They already know they will be 3rd or 4th or 5th in their division at best, maybe dead last.

At least we have a chance to win our conference and to go to a good bowl game. And, since we are unjustly excluded from the opportunity to play for a national championship, it doesn't really matter.

I would jump at the B12 or ACC or SEC, should that opportunity ever present itself. But I'm just not sure our seasons will truly be any more fun than they are right now.

We would be a top 15 program every year because recruits would love to play here, and mostly, if Arkansuck and Ole Piss can sometimes play in a New Year's Day bowl, we would run circles around them.

(09-29-2019 08:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:37 AM)cmt Wrote:  On the heals of Mississippi's loss to Alabama and our big win over Navy to stay undefeated, I have to wonder if we are better off not being in the SEC.

We'd gets millions of dollars more, yep. We'd definitely field a better team, absolutely. We'd be on national TV more, sure. We'd fair better than Mississippi or Mississippi State or Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky, probably.

But since 1962, Mississippi's NC year...57 years ago (or, as long as this old man has been alive), Mississippi has gone 8-34 against Alabama (23.5%), 16-31 against LSU plus 2 ties (51.6%) and 6-26 against Auburn (23.0%) and 48-12-2 against Memphis (25.0% for us)

So, we've done better against the all powerful SEC's Ole Miss without SEC money, than Ole Miss has done against Auburn or Alabama with all that SEC money.

I just don't understand how fans of teams like Mississippi or Vanderbilt could possibly care about their team. They start the season knowing they'll lose to Auburn or Alabama or LSU or A&M or Georgia or Florida or, more than likely, all or most of them. They already know they won't make the conference championship. They already know they will be 3rd or 4th or 5th in their division at best, maybe dead last.

At least we have a chance to win our conference and to go to a good bowl game. And, since we are unjustly excluded from the opportunity to play for a national championship, it doesn't really matter.

I would jump at the B12 or ACC or SEC, should that opportunity ever present itself. But I'm just not sure our seasons will truly be any more fun than they are right now.

We would be a top 15 program every year because recruits would love to play here, and mostly, if Arkansuck and Ole Piss can sometimes play in a New Year's Day bowl, we would run circles around them.

I know you really believe this to be true. Can you give us a few reasons why all of those recruits would love to play here. Just asking

(09-29-2019 08:31 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:37 AM)cmt Wrote:  On the heals of Mississippi's loss to Alabama and our big win over Navy to stay undefeated, I have to wonder if we are better off not being in the SEC.

We'd gets millions of dollars more, yep. We'd definitely field a better team, absolutely. We'd be on national TV more, sure. We'd fair better than Mississippi or Mississippi State or Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky, probably.

But since 1962, Mississippi's NC year...57 years ago (or, as long as this old man has been alive), Mississippi has gone 8-34 against Alabama (23.5%), 16-31 against LSU plus 2 ties (51.6%) and 6-26 against Auburn (23.0%) and 48-12-2 against Memphis (25.0% for us)

So, we've done better against the all powerful SEC's Ole Miss without SEC money, than Ole Miss has done against Auburn or Alabama with all that SEC money.

I just don't understand how fans of teams like Mississippi or Vanderbilt could possibly care about their team. They start the season knowing they'll lose to Auburn or Alabama or LSU or A&M or Georgia or Florida or, more than likely, all or most of them. They already know they won't make the conference championship. They already know they will be 3rd or 4th or 5th in their division at best, maybe dead last.

At least we have a chance to win our conference and to go to a good bowl game. And, since we are unjustly excluded from the opportunity to play for a national championship, it doesn't really matter.

I would jump at the B12 or ACC or SEC, should that opportunity ever present itself. But I'm just not sure our seasons will truly be any more fun than they are right now.

We would be a top 15 program every year because recruits would love to play here, and mostly, if Arkansuck and Ole Piss can sometimes play in a New Year's Day bowl, we would run circles around them.

I know you really believe this to be true. Can you give us a few reasons why all of those recruits would love to play here. Just asking

Sad to see that there are still a few self loathing Memphians around.

(09-29-2019 08:31 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:37 AM)cmt Wrote:  On the heals of Mississippi's loss to Alabama and our big win over Navy to stay undefeated, I have to wonder if we are better off not being in the SEC.

We'd gets millions of dollars more, yep. We'd definitely field a better team, absolutely. We'd be on national TV more, sure. We'd fair better than Mississippi or Mississippi State or Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky, probably.

But since 1962, Mississippi's NC year...57 years ago (or, as long as this old man has been alive), Mississippi has gone 8-34 against Alabama (23.5%), 16-31 against LSU plus 2 ties (51.6%) and 6-26 against Auburn (23.0%) and 48-12-2 against Memphis (25.0% for us)

So, we've done better against the all powerful SEC's Ole Miss without SEC money, than Ole Miss has done against Auburn or Alabama with all that SEC money.

I just don't understand how fans of teams like Mississippi or Vanderbilt could possibly care about their team. They start the season knowing they'll lose to Auburn or Alabama or LSU or A&M or Georgia or Florida or, more than likely, all or most of them. They already know they won't make the conference championship. They already know they will be 3rd or 4th or 5th in their division at best, maybe dead last.

At least we have a chance to win our conference and to go to a good bowl game. And, since we are unjustly excluded from the opportunity to play for a national championship, it doesn't really matter.

I would jump at the B12 or ACC or SEC, should that opportunity ever present itself. But I'm just not sure our seasons will truly be any more fun than they are right now.

We would be a top 15 program every year because recruits would love to play here, and mostly, if Arkansuck and Ole Piss can sometimes play in a New Year's Day bowl, we would run circles around them.

I know you really believe this to be true. Can you give us a few reasons why all of those recruits would love to play here. Just asking

I take it you've never been to Starkville? Or Oxford (with its relatively spanking new 'movie theater')? Fayetteville is pretty nice, but there's a reason why Ole Myth would be terrified of us joining the $EC as would Mi$take.

If Arkansas can be as bad as they are with that kind of $$, we can at least do better than them.

(09-29-2019 04:04 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

I don’t know why Media laughed at his bareness; it was the perfect weather.

(09-29-2019 08:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:31 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:26 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:37 AM)cmt Wrote:  On the heals of Mississippi's loss to Alabama and our big win over Navy to stay undefeated, I have to wonder if we are better off not being in the SEC.

We'd gets millions of dollars more, yep. We'd definitely field a better team, absolutely. We'd be on national TV more, sure. We'd fair better than Mississippi or Mississippi State or Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt or Kentucky, probably.

But since 1962, Mississippi's NC year...57 years ago (or, as long as this old man has been alive), Mississippi has gone 8-34 against Alabama (23.5%), 16-31 against LSU plus 2 ties (51.6%) and 6-26 against Auburn (23.0%) and 48-12-2 against Memphis (25.0% for us)

So, we've done better against the all powerful SEC's Ole Miss without SEC money, than Ole Miss has done against Auburn or Alabama with all that SEC money.

I just don't understand how fans of teams like Mississippi or Vanderbilt could possibly care about their team. They start the season knowing they'll lose to Auburn or Alabama or LSU or A&M or Georgia or Florida or, more than likely, all or most of them. They already know they won't make the conference championship. They already know they will be 3rd or 4th or 5th in their division at best, maybe dead last.

At least we have a chance to win our conference and to go to a good bowl game. And, since we are unjustly excluded from the opportunity to play for a national championship, it doesn't really matter.

I would jump at the B12 or ACC or SEC, should that opportunity ever present itself. But I'm just not sure our seasons will truly be any more fun than they are right now.

We would be a top 15 program every year because recruits would love to play here, and mostly, if Arkansuck and Ole Piss can sometimes play in a New Year's Day bowl, we would run circles around them.

I know you really believe this to be true. Can you give us a few reasons why all of those recruits would love to play here. Just asking

Sad to see that there are still a few self loathing Memphians around.

More than a few

Watch for them to be triggered because I see a few posters took potshots at small town life.

(09-29-2019 10:56 AM)kabluey Wrote:  Tv revenue. Passive income. No brainer for me. I'd be willing to lose every game for $30+ million/year that could go to helping the university improve.

I think that hits at the most valid part of the question. Of course we would take the money AND a chance to be relevant (even eventually) on the national scene. But would it be worth it if we were guaranteed to be a bottom dweller in the SEC every year? Its a hypothetical for us, but it seems to be a real question for many teams across the P5. Would the occasional victory against a regional SEC opponent be worth a .500 record year after year?

(09-29-2019 08:59 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:56 AM)kabluey Wrote:  Tv revenue. Passive income. No brainer for me. I'd be willing to lose every game for $30+ million/year that could go to helping the university improve.

I think that hits at the most valid part of the question. Of course we would take the money AND a chance to be relevant (even eventually) on the national scene. But would it be worth it if we were guaranteed to be a bottom dweller in the SEC every year? Its a hypothetical for us, but it seems to be a real question for many teams across the P5. Would the occasional victory against a regional SEC opponent be worth a .500 record year after year?

Do you see Vanderbilt complaining?