The only people I ever really see say LSU beat down UCF are LSU or SEC fans.

I thought it was a fairly compelling game. Idk, maybe I misremember? I don’t care for either team.

(09-29-2019 10:37 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 11:13 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Conference USA sucks because our Conference commissioner sucks. We were ahead of the AAC in conference power rankings the first year of new CUSA and new AAC. Their conference commissioner pumped the AAC up and had the whole P6 thing. Our conference commissioner said we were a product you could watch if the SEC wasn't on. She is the worst. How she is still in power is something I can't understand.

It’s really simple to understand. Our Presidents determine who the Commissioner is. Our presidents don’t care enough about athletics to hire someone that wants us to be the best. When I look at the presidents in CUSA, it’s very easy to understand how Judy still has a job.

(09-29-2019 07:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Your arguments dont hold water. These teams don’t have superior talent. Tech has had more draft picks than most of the AAC teams and we beat their best team in a bowl game a few years plus thrashed one of their winning teams a couple of years ago. 42-7 first half.

Are they better than CUSA this year? Most definitely, do they have superior talent every year absolutely not. Their best team just lost to freaking Pittsburgh last week plus got beat down by LSU last year. Hell WKU beat Memphis and USF

Blowing out an average SMU team is nothing to brag about. You didn’t take down a top AAC school. It’s like bragging about beating Mississippi State and saying the SEC isn’t good, while ignoring the fact that they have Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, etc. SMU wasn’t even seen as a top team in the AAC or anywhere close to it. They went 4-4 in conference.

And one more thing: UCF didn’t get beat down by LSU. It was a great game and went down to the end. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

So what about 2016 when we beat Navy in the Armed Forces Bowl? They finished 1st in the AAC West Division that year. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

It’s not so much that the AAC has better talent per se, but they seem to have better coaches and assistants who make better in-game judgements.

(09-29-2019 10:50 PM)TTT Wrote:  It’s not so much that the AAC has better talent per se, but they seem to have better coaches and assistants who make better in-game judgements.

Gotta disagree. They beat us in the composite recruiting rankings every year also. For the most part, they're a little better across the board; recruits, coaches, facilities, attendance, etc. Their "P6" thing is effective, though amusing because it's not even remotely accurate, but I've gotta give credit where it's due on the other stuff.

(09-29-2019 11:03 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:50 PM)TTT Wrote:  It’s not so much that the AAC has better talent per se, but they seem to have better coaches and assistants who make better in-game judgements.

Gotta disagree. They beat us in the composite recruiting rankings every year also. For the most part, they're a little better across the board; recruits, coaches, facilities, attendance, etc. Their "P6" thing is effective, though amusing because it's not even remotely accurate, but I've gotta give credit where it's due on the other stuff.

While not popular, both contribute to why the AAC does better in regular season vs. bowl performance. Coaching staffs are intact and star players play vs. sitting out (unless it’s UH ). Norvell, alone, has replaced 15 coaches in his 3.5 yr. tenure. Luckily, he has been good at bringing in guys to run his system...both coaches and players. Memphis choked away their bowl game last year w/o unanimous AA Darrell Henderson and some asst. coaches participating. I don’t blame DH for opting out to prepare for the draft. You never know when injuries can hit. RB Patrick Taylor received the same draft grade as DH and Tony Pollard, but chose to come back this year and got hurt early. Hopefully, he comes back and it doesn’t hurt his draft stock. You just never know.

(09-29-2019 10:44 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:37 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 11:13 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Conference USA sucks because our Conference commissioner sucks. We were ahead of the AAC in conference power rankings the first year of new CUSA and new AAC. Their conference commissioner pumped the AAC up and had the whole P6 thing. Our conference commissioner said we were a product you could watch if the SEC wasn't on. She is the worst. How she is still in power is something I can't understand.

It’s really simple to understand. Our Presidents determine who the Commissioner is. Our presidents don’t care enough about athletics to hire someone that wants us to be the best. When I look at the presidents in CUSA, it’s very easy to understand how Judy still has a job.

(09-29-2019 07:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Your arguments dont hold water. These teams don’t have superior talent. Tech has had more draft picks than most of the AAC teams and we beat their best team in a bowl game a few years plus thrashed one of their winning teams a couple of years ago. 42-7 first half.

Are they better than CUSA this year? Most definitely, do they have superior talent every year absolutely not. Their best team just lost to freaking Pittsburgh last week plus got beat down by LSU last year. Hell WKU beat Memphis and USF

Blowing out an average SMU team is nothing to brag about. You didn’t take down a top AAC school. It’s like bragging about beating Mississippi State and saying the SEC isn’t good, while ignoring the fact that they have Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, etc. SMU wasn’t even seen as a top team in the AAC or anywhere close to it. They went 4-4 in conference.

And one more thing: UCF didn’t get beat down by LSU. It was a great game and went down to the end. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

So what about 2016 when we beat Navy in the Armed Forces Bowl? They finished 1st in the AAC West Division that year. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

Except for the fact that the person I responded to referenced the SMU bowl game, not the Navy one.

(09-29-2019 10:37 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 11:13 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Conference USA sucks because our Conference commissioner sucks. We were ahead of the AAC in conference power rankings the first year of new CUSA and new AAC. Their conference commissioner pumped the AAC up and had the whole P6 thing. Our conference commissioner said we were a product you could watch if the SEC wasn't on. She is the worst. How she is still in power is something I can't understand.

It’s really simple to understand. Our Presidents determine who the Commissioner is. Our presidents don’t care enough about athletics to hire someone that wants us to be the best. When I look at the presidents in CUSA, it’s very easy to understand how Judy still has a job.

(09-29-2019 07:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Your arguments dont hold water. These teams don’t have superior talent. Tech has had more draft picks than most of the AAC teams and we beat their best team in a bowl game a few years plus thrashed one of their winning teams a couple of years ago. 42-7 first half.

Are they better than CUSA this year? Most definitely, do they have superior talent every year absolutely not. Their best team just lost to freaking Pittsburgh last week plus got beat down by LSU last year. Hell WKU beat Memphis and USF

Blowing out an average SMU team is nothing to brag about. You didn’t take down a top AAC school. It’s like bragging about beating Mississippi State and saying the SEC isn’t good, while ignoring the fact that they have Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, etc. SMU wasn’t even seen as a top team in the AAC or anywhere close to it. They went 4-4 in conference.

And one more thing: UCF didn’t get beat down by LSU. It was a great game and went down to the end. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

I also like how he says "freaking Pittsburgh" as if La Tech would even stay in a game with them. Pitt would have tied and possibly beaten Penn State, at Penn State, if they coach didn't go dumb at a bad time. That same Penn State team that just annihilated Maryland 58-0.

This La Tech fan has an obsessive disorder when it comes to the AAC and specifically UCF. He tries to convince everyone that LSU beat us by 30 points every chance he gets.

(09-29-2019 10:42 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  The only people I ever really see say LSU beat down UCF are LSU or SEC fans.

I thought it was a fairly compelling game. Idk, maybe I misremember? I don’t care for either team.

I dont care for either team too but a 3-loss LSU dominated UCF.

All the pundits were right, UCF didnt even belong in the conversation as a playoff team and that LSU game proved their point.

Now some of those Boise State teams back 2008-10 belong with the best but not UCF

(09-30-2019 07:14 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:44 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:37 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 11:13 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Conference USA sucks because our Conference commissioner sucks. We were ahead of the AAC in conference power rankings the first year of new CUSA and new AAC. Their conference commissioner pumped the AAC up and had the whole P6 thing. Our conference commissioner said we were a product you could watch if the SEC wasn't on. She is the worst. How she is still in power is something I can't understand.

It’s really simple to understand. Our Presidents determine who the Commissioner is. Our presidents don’t care enough about athletics to hire someone that wants us to be the best. When I look at the presidents in CUSA, it’s very easy to understand how Judy still has a job.

(09-29-2019 07:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Your arguments dont hold water. These teams don’t have superior talent. Tech has had more draft picks than most of the AAC teams and we beat their best team in a bowl game a few years plus thrashed one of their winning teams a couple of years ago. 42-7 first half.

Are they better than CUSA this year? Most definitely, do they have superior talent every year absolutely not. Their best team just lost to freaking Pittsburgh last week plus got beat down by LSU last year. Hell WKU beat Memphis and USF

Blowing out an average SMU team is nothing to brag about. You didn’t take down a top AAC school. It’s like bragging about beating Mississippi State and saying the SEC isn’t good, while ignoring the fact that they have Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, etc. SMU wasn’t even seen as a top team in the AAC or anywhere close to it. They went 4-4 in conference.

And one more thing: UCF didn’t get beat down by LSU. It was a great game and went down to the end. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

So what about 2016 when we beat Navy in the Armed Forces Bowl? They finished 1st in the AAC West Division that year. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

Except for the fact that the person I responded to referenced the SMU bowl game, not the Navy one.

No I was referenced the Navy game also.

Navy was ranked and went to the AAC championship game

(09-29-2019 10:44 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:37 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 11:13 AM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Conference USA sucks because our Conference commissioner sucks. We were ahead of the AAC in conference power rankings the first year of new CUSA and new AAC. Their conference commissioner pumped the AAC up and had the whole P6 thing. Our conference commissioner said we were a product you could watch if the SEC wasn't on. She is the worst. How she is still in power is something I can't understand.

It’s really simple to understand. Our Presidents determine who the Commissioner is. Our presidents don’t care enough about athletics to hire someone that wants us to be the best. When I look at the presidents in CUSA, it’s very easy to understand how Judy still has a job.

(09-29-2019 07:07 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Your arguments dont hold water. These teams don’t have superior talent. Tech has had more draft picks than most of the AAC teams and we beat their best team in a bowl game a few years plus thrashed one of their winning teams a couple of years ago. 42-7 first half.

Are they better than CUSA this year? Most definitely, do they have superior talent every year absolutely not. Their best team just lost to freaking Pittsburgh last week plus got beat down by LSU last year. Hell WKU beat Memphis and USF

Blowing out an average SMU team is nothing to brag about. You didn’t take down a top AAC school. It’s like bragging about beating Mississippi State and saying the SEC isn’t good, while ignoring the fact that they have Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, etc. SMU wasn’t even seen as a top team in the AAC or anywhere close to it. They went 4-4 in conference.

And one more thing: UCF didn’t get beat down by LSU. It was a great game and went down to the end. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

So what about 2016 when we beat Navy in the Armed Forces Bowl? They finished 1st in the AAC West Division that year. When you use arguments like this, it makes everyone completely ignore any other decent points you’re trying to make.

Exactly. Top CUSA schools have beaten top AAC schools. Are their lower teams better than CUSA. Slightly better talent.

Like I said Tech has more NFL draft picks over the last 5 years than most AAC schools.

(09-30-2019 08:54 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:42 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  The only people I ever really see say LSU beat down UCF are LSU or SEC fans.

I thought it was a fairly compelling game. Idk, maybe I misremember? I don’t care for either team.

I dont care for either team too but a 3-loss LSU dominated UCF.

All the pundits were right, UCF didnt even belong in the conversation as a playoff team and that LSU game proved their point.

Now some of those Boise State teams back 2008-10 belong with the best but not UCF

I like how you keep refusing to include the part where UCF had to start a Freshman QB to make his 2nd ever start against LSU. If Milton plays that game is a route and yes, UCF absolutely belonged in the CFP conversation.

Now, can you show me the last NY6 game La Tech made?

(09-30-2019 08:54 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 10:42 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  The only people I ever really see say LSU beat down UCF are LSU or SEC fans.

I thought it was a fairly compelling game. Idk, maybe I misremember? I don’t care for either team.

I dont care for either team too but a 3-loss LSU dominated UCF.

All the pundits were right, UCF didnt even belong in the conversation as a playoff team and that LSU game proved their point.

Now some of those Boise State teams back 2008-10 belong with the best but not UCF

But again, they didn't dominate them. The final score was 40-32, a one possession game. UCF had the ball with under a minute trying to score and threw a pick. Again, that's not domination. You're acting like it was a 40-7 game when it wasn't. You're being intentionally dishonest to spread a false narrative.

It was 40-24 up until a 1 minute left in the game, I watched the game. LSU dominated the second half.

LSU was missing 9 defensive starters.... Thats right 9 starters and still dominated UCF. UCF didnt even belong in the top 10 much less playoff discussion

Again, you keep saying 'dominated', but that's just factually untrue. But whatever makes you feel better at night.

Ok Dude, You already been called at once by another fan.

What you say as “factually untrue” is actually just your opinion.

I do know this it was 40-24 up to a minute left and LSU dominated every stat and the game. Plus missing 9 starters.

LSU UCF
1st Downs 32 17
Yards 555 250
TOP 44:39 15:29

Over twice as many yards, twice as many first downs and 3 times more TOP. That’s Domination my friend

(09-30-2019 12:39 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Dude, You already been called at once by another fan.

What you say as “factually untrue” is actually just your opinion.

I do know this it was 40-24 up to a minute left and LSU dominated every stat and the game. Plus missing 9 starters.

LSU UCF
1st Downs 32 17
Yards 555 250
TOP 44:39 15:29

Over twice as many yards, twice as many first downs and 3 times more TOP. That’s Domination my friend

I tend to agree. UCF wasn't the same after Milton went down. The 2017 team absolutely 100% belonged in the playoff discussion, and could have competed against any of the teams that made it in. The 2018 team was a different story.

(09-30-2019 01:04 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 12:39 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Dude, You already been called at once by another fan.

What you say as “factually untrue” is actually just your opinion.

I do know this it was 40-24 up to a minute left and LSU dominated every stat and the game. Plus missing 9 starters.

LSU UCF
1st Downs 32 17
Yards 555 250
TOP 44:39 15:29

Over twice as many yards, twice as many first downs and 3 times more TOP. That’s Domination my friend

I tend to agree. UCF wasn't the same after Milton went down. The 2017 team absolutely 100% belonged in the playoff discussion, and could have competed against any of the teams that made it in. The 2018 team was a different story.

Sure, the 2017 UCF team absolutely 100% belonged in the playoff discussion...but that 2017 UCF team absolutely 100% did NOT belong in the actual playoff over any of the 4 teams that made it (#4. Alabama, #3 Georgia, #2 Oklahoma, #1 Clemson).

(09-30-2019 01:24 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:04 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 12:39 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Dude, You already been called at once by another fan.

What you say as “factually untrue” is actually just your opinion.

I do know this it was 40-24 up to a minute left and LSU dominated every stat and the game. Plus missing 9 starters.

LSU UCF
1st Downs 32 17
Yards 555 250
TOP 44:39 15:29

Over twice as many yards, twice as many first downs and 3 times more TOP. That’s Domination my friend

I tend to agree. UCF wasn't the same after Milton went down. The 2017 team absolutely 100% belonged in the playoff discussion, and could have competed against any of the teams that made it in. The 2018 team was a different story.

Sure, the 2017 UCF team absolutely 100% belonged in the playoff discussion...but that 2017 UCF team absolutely 100% did NOT belong in the actual playoff over any of the 4 teams that made it (#4. Alabama, #3 Georgia, #2 Oklahoma, #1 Clemson).

You should at least have to win your conference to even be eligible. Don't you think?

(09-30-2019 12:39 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Dude, You already been called at once by another fan.

What you say as “factually untrue” is actually just your opinion.

I do know this it was 40-24 up to a minute left and LSU dominated every stat and the game. Plus missing 9 starters.

LSU UCF
1st Downs 32 17
Yards 555 250
TOP 44:39 15:29

Over twice as many yards, twice as many first downs and 3 times more TOP. That’s Domination my friend

Doesnt account for a pick 6.

TOP means nothing. All of UCF's scoring drives were under 2 minutes. I remember a UH season where our only loss was the only game where we lost TOP.

At no point was UCF down more than 2 scores. UCF led for almost a full quarter including leading by 2 scores.

If thats being dominated, I'm guessing La Tech gets dominated often

(09-30-2019 01:31 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:24 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:04 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 12:39 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Ok Dude, You already been called at once by another fan.

What you say as “factually untrue” is actually just your opinion.

I do know this it was 40-24 up to a minute left and LSU dominated every stat and the game. Plus missing 9 starters.

LSU UCF
1st Downs 32 17
Yards 555 250
TOP 44:39 15:29

Over twice as many yards, twice as many first downs and 3 times more TOP. That’s Domination my friend

I tend to agree. UCF wasn't the same after Milton went down. The 2017 team absolutely 100% belonged in the playoff discussion, and could have competed against any of the teams that made it in. The 2018 team was a different story.

Sure, the 2017 UCF team absolutely 100% belonged in the playoff discussion...but that 2017 UCF team absolutely 100% did NOT belong in the actual playoff over any of the 4 teams that made it (#4. Alabama, #3 Georgia, #2 Oklahoma, #1 Clemson).

You should at least have to win your conference to even be eligible. Don't you think?

Not necessarily. The CFB playoff should be reserved for the 4 best teams in college football. UCF was not one of the 4 best in 2017.