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(09-29-2019 12:11 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

I mean, this is still a young team that came in with unfairly high expectations. And they've been all over the place on the year. If you look at the 49-0 beating at OSU youd think we're a bottom feeder. If you look at today you'd think we're competing for an access bowl. That happens with you g teams. We'll probably relapse against someone insig I can't this year. But it's still a fun game.

42-0

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

seriously. remove that from your signature. why?

(09-29-2019 07:37 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

seriously. remove that from your signature. why?

I second that. I made the mistake of watching it.

(09-29-2019 08:49 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 07:37 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

seriously. remove that from your signature. why?

I second that. I made the mistake of watching it.

It's just a geoduck.

(09-29-2019 08:49 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 07:37 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

seriously. remove that from your signature. why?

I second that. I made the mistake of watching it.

Either I cant see it on mobile or he already removed. Given the user, I think I can safely assume its nature, but what was it?

What were we all afraid of... ?

(09-29-2019 06:38 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 12:11 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

I mean, this is still a young team that came in with unfairly high expectations. And they've been all over the place on the year. If you look at the 49-0 beating at OSU youd think we're a bottom feeder. If you look at today you'd think we're competing for an access bowl. That happens with you g teams. We'll probably relapse against someone insig I can't this year. But it's still a fun game.

42-0

I made that post after a landslide of celebratory post game beverages so all things considered I'll own that mistake and applaud myself for being coherent the rest of the way.

(09-29-2019 09:04 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 06:38 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 12:11 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

I mean, this is still a young team that came in with unfairly high expectations. And they've been all over the place on the year. If you look at the 49-0 beating at OSU youd think we're a bottom feeder. If you look at today you'd think we're competing for an access bowl. That happens with you g teams. We'll probably relapse against someone insig I can't this year. But it's still a fun game.

42-0

I made that post after a landslide of celebratory post game beverages so all things considered I'll own that mistake and applaud myself for being coherent the rest of the way.

Yeah - buzzed or not, don't sell us short!

For those that could not watch the game yesterday, here is a full replay...

I was impressed to see us be so effective against the supposed strength of the Marshall defense- their secondary. On the other side of the ball, we shut down their strength running the football.

Glad to see some guys get some additional reps. We are going to need to figure out how
To get Tucker some more touches.

(09-29-2019 09:00 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 08:49 AM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  

(09-29-2019 07:37 AM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 11:38 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Let me be the first to lend 3 cheers to the special teams amidst all the celebration. Punting was great as usual. Crosas didn't have any especially long or high-pressure kicks, but he batted 1.000 and that's good enough for me. Unfortunately we had a few penalties on coverages and returns but otherwise seemed very good in those areas too. I think Montgomery is going to bust at least one sometime this season.

seriously. remove that from your signature. why?

I second that. I made the mistake of watching it.

Either I cant see it on mobile or he already removed. Given the user, I think I can safely assume its nature, but what was it?

Please expound upon your "safe assumption of its nature", o great one.

(09-28-2019 11:24 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 06:47 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  My son asked after the first Marshall points what would happen if Marshall came back and won this game...

Is his name Billy?

Hell nah! I maybe the eternal pessimist, but even I know being up 31 with 7 minutes to play is money in the bank.

Post game comments from coach:

Comments from Dez and Pierce...

(09-28-2019 05:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Fumble. Touchdown

I'm late to this discussion, but I have to ask how forward motion ends up being a fumble? Weirdest touchdown I've ever seen.

And, yes, kudos to Deguara for on-field awareness.

(09-30-2019 01:09 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Fumble. Touchdown

I'm late to this discussion, but I have to ask how forward motion ends up being a fumble? Weirdest touchdown I've ever seen.

And, yes, kudos to Deguara for on-field awareness.

I agree... That play happened right in front of where I was sitting and my first thought was that Ridder had a forward arm motion, meaning "Incomplete Pass." OK, I get that the officials didn't agree, no whistle blew, and the "bean bag" was thrown meaning "Fumble." So then Degaura picks up the ball..."Fumble recovered." At the 2. Fine. But then he takes the ball into the endzone… I thought the rule was "A fumble cannot be advanced." So, I was like "Down at the 2."

The play ended up being an old "Fumble-rooskie" type play, where the ball is "fumbled forward," picked up off the turf, and advanced downfield.

Not that I'm complaining, but that whole sequence left me scratching my head.

(09-30-2019 01:47 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:09 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Fumble. Touchdown

I'm late to this discussion, but I have to ask how forward motion ends up being a fumble? Weirdest touchdown I've ever seen.

And, yes, kudos to Deguara for on-field awareness.

I agree... That play happened right in front of where I was sitting and my first thought was that Ridder had a forward arm motion, meaning "Incomplete Pass." OK, I get that the officials didn't agree, no whistle blew, and the "bean bag" was thrown meaning "Fumble." So then Degaura picks up the ball..."Fumble recovered." At the 2. Fine. But then he takes the ball into the endzone… I thought the rule was "A fumble cannot be advanced." So, I was like "Down at the 2."

The play ended up being an old "Fumble-rooskie" type play, where the ball is "fumbled forward," picked up off the turf, and advanced downfield.

Not that I'm complaining, but that whole sequence left me scratching my head.

Though the screen at Marshall is small, it seemed clear to me that Ridder's arm was moving forward when it was knocked loose and that any replay would confirm the forward motion.

(09-30-2019 04:28 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:47 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:09 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Fumble. Touchdown

I'm late to this discussion, but I have to ask how forward motion ends up being a fumble? Weirdest touchdown I've ever seen.

And, yes, kudos to Deguara for on-field awareness.

I agree... That play happened right in front of where I was sitting and my first thought was that Ridder had a forward arm motion, meaning "Incomplete Pass." OK, I get that the officials didn't agree, no whistle blew, and the "bean bag" was thrown meaning "Fumble." So then Degaura picks up the ball..."Fumble recovered." At the 2. Fine. But then he takes the ball into the endzone… I thought the rule was "A fumble cannot be advanced." So, I was like "Down at the 2."

The play ended up being an old "Fumble-rooskie" type play, where the ball is "fumbled forward," picked up off the turf, and advanced downfield.

Not that I'm complaining, but that whole sequence left me scratching my head.

Though the screen at Marshall is small, it seemed clear to me that Ridder's arm was moving forward when it was knocked loose and that any replay would confirm the forward motion.

NCAA RULE 7 – SNAPPING AND PASSING THE BALL

SECTION 2. Backward Pass and Fumble

ARTICLE 1. During Live Ball

A ball carrier may hand or pass the ball backward at any time, except to throw the ball intentionally out of bounds to conserve time.

PENALTY –
Five yards from the spot of the foul; also loss of down if by Team A before team possession changes during a scrimmage down (A.R. 3-4-3:III) [S35 and S9].

ARTICLE 2. Caught or Recovered

When a backward pass or fumble is caught or recovered by any inbounds player, the ball continues in play. (A.R. 2-23-1:I) Exceptions:
Rule 8-3-2-d-5 (Team A fumble on the try).
On fourth down, before a change of team possession, when a Team A fumble is caught or recovered by a Team A player other than the fumbler, the ball is dead. If the catch or recovery is beyond the spot of the fumble, the ball is returned to the spot of the fumble. If the catch or recovery is behind the spot of the fumble, the ball remains at the spot of the catch or recovery.
When a backward pass or fumble is caught or recovered simultaneously by opposing players, the ball becomes dead and belongs to the team last in possession (Exception: Rule 7-2-2-a Exceptions).

(09-30-2019 04:28 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:47 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:09 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Fumble. Touchdown

I'm late to this discussion, but I have to ask how forward motion ends up being a fumble? Weirdest touchdown I've ever seen.

And, yes, kudos to Deguara for on-field awareness.

I agree... That play happened right in front of where I was sitting and my first thought was that Ridder had a forward arm motion, meaning "Incomplete Pass." OK, I get that the officials didn't agree, no whistle blew, and the "bean bag" was thrown meaning "Fumble." So then Degaura picks up the ball..."Fumble recovered." At the 2. Fine. But then he takes the ball into the endzone… I thought the rule was "A fumble cannot be advanced." So, I was like "Down at the 2."

The play ended up being an old "Fumble-rooskie" type play, where the ball is "fumbled forward," picked up off the turf, and advanced downfield.

Not that I'm complaining, but that whole sequence left me scratching my head.

Though the screen at Marshall is small, it seemed clear to me that Ridder's arm was moving forward when it was knocked loose and that any replay would confirm the forward motion.

I thought so initially but the ball was knocked loose before his arm went forward. Broadcast did a good job highlighting it.

(09-30-2019 05:21 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 04:28 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:47 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(09-30-2019 01:09 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(09-28-2019 05:15 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Fumble. Touchdown

I'm late to this discussion, but I have to ask how forward motion ends up being a fumble? Weirdest touchdown I've ever seen.

And, yes, kudos to Deguara for on-field awareness.

I agree... That play happened right in front of where I was sitting and my first thought was that Ridder had a forward arm motion, meaning "Incomplete Pass." OK, I get that the officials didn't agree, no whistle blew, and the "bean bag" was thrown meaning "Fumble." So then Degaura picks up the ball..."Fumble recovered." At the 2. Fine. But then he takes the ball into the endzone… I thought the rule was "A fumble cannot be advanced." So, I was like "Down at the 2."

The play ended up being an old "Fumble-rooskie" type play, where the ball is "fumbled forward," picked up off the turf, and advanced downfield.

Not that I'm complaining, but that whole sequence left me scratching my head.

Though the screen at Marshall is small, it seemed clear to me that Ridder's arm was moving forward when it was knocked loose and that any replay would confirm the forward motion.

I thought so initially but the ball was knocked loose before his arm went forward. Broadcast did a good job highlighting it.

Yep. Some want to point at the ball moving forward as proof of a pass, but he was hit on the elbow which dislodged the ball and forced his hand forward, along with the ball.