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BYU is also inked for a home and home with UCF.

Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

that's funny- I'm looking at Cincy football schedules and...
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should be a fun matchup

Lame attempt by UCF to cover for the failure of their 1-1 policy with good P5.

(09-24-2019 02:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...state-byu/


BYU is also inked for a home and home with UCF.

These are good opponents for UCF. But if their goal is to improve their chances of breaking into the Top Four and snag a CFP berth, it's not enough. It might not be easy for the Knights to book national championship contenders from the P5, but they need to find a way.

Just booking P5s (and neither of these schools are) doesn't make their schedule look like the schedules of the best teams. Those teams routinely have four or five regular season games against high profile teams which are not just bowl teams but still potential NY6 teams when those games are played.

For UCF to emulate that, they need to stop playing FCS opponents completely. They need to be willing to go on the road against the Alabamas, Clemsons, and Georgias, with no expectation of a return game. If that means they never get seven home games, and sometimes only get five, they have to accept that until they earn the expectation that they are CFP worthy.

That may sound unfair, but it's how Florida State established themselves under Bobby Bowden. Once the Noles did that, they could demand home and homes, and the benefit of the doubt in the polls.

The danger, of course, is that they could do that and prove to their doubters that they aren't, in fact, worthy of CFP consideration. They need to win their share of those games. It's a high risk strategy, but it's the only one that will get them where they want to go.

(09-24-2019 05:04 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...state-byu/


BYU is also inked for a home and home with UCF.

These are good opponents for UCF. But if their goal is to improve their chances of breaking into the Top Four and snag a CFP berth, it's not enough. It might not be easy for the Knights to book national championship contenders from the P5, but they need to find a way.

Just booking P5s (and neither of these schools are) doesn't make their schedule look like the schedules of the best teams. Those teams routinely have four or five regular season games against high profile teams which are not just bowl teams but still potential NY6 teams when those games are played.

For UCF to emulate that, they need to stop playing FCS opponents completely. They need to be willing to go on the road against the Alabamas, Clemsons, and Georgias, with no expectation of a return game. If that means they never get seven home games, and sometimes only get five, they have to accept that until they earn the expectation that they are CFP worthy.

That may sound unfair, but it's how Florida State established themselves under Bobby Bowden. Once the Noles did that, they could demand home and homes, and the benefit of the doubt in the polls.

The danger, of course, is that they could do that and prove to their doubters that they aren't, in fact, worthy of CFP consideration. They need to win their share of those games. It's a high risk strategy, but it's the only one that will get them where they want to go.

This is exactly what will happen. They do not have the depth to withstand a tough schedule, notwithstanding injuries, with multiple tough opponents over consecutive weeks. And, they are more likely to drop a conference game or two after the gauntlet, when dealing with injuries. It's just the way it works.

Now, could they knock off a CFP contender in a one-off game? Sure. But, UCF would need to ease into it. You *really* need to develop the top-end talent AND the depth before you jump into a schedule with four power-level opponents that includes even a single game against the likes of Alabama, Clemson, or Georgia.

(09-24-2019 02:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  that's funny- I'm looking at Cincy football schedules and...
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Yeah.

I am a Bearcat fan myself, but UC fans really should watch the self-righteousness as regards UCF schedules.

Austin Peay and HBCU Alabama A&M are relatively frequent cupcakes showing up on UC schedules in the current era.

(09-24-2019 02:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

(09-25-2019 06:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

(09-25-2019 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

dude just about every single ******* team plays a FCS school and you damn well know it. Give me a ******* break....

(09-25-2019 06:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

dude just about every single ******* team plays a FCS school and you damn well know it. Give me a ******* break....

Yes, but we weren't just talking about playing FCS, but the totality of the schedule.

This is a good H/H series for both teams. I think more of the top G5 schools need to play each other in the OOC.

(09-25-2019 07:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

dude just about every single ******* team plays a FCS school and you damn well know it. Give me a ******* break....

Yes, but we weren't just talking about playing FCS, but the totality of the schedule.

then why in the **** did you bring it up?

and don't get much bigger G5 than Boise St, not to mention BYU....

(09-25-2019 08:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 07:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

dude just about every single ******* team plays a FCS school and you damn well know it. Give me a ******* break....

Yes, but we weren't just talking about playing FCS, but the totality of the schedule.

then why in the **** did you bring it up?

Because FCS games are part of the totality of schedule. Good Lord.

(09-25-2019 09:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 08:05 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 07:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

dude just about every single ******* team plays a FCS school and you damn well know it. Give me a ******* break....

Yes, but we weren't just talking about playing FCS, but the totality of the schedule.

then why in the **** did you bring it up?

Because FCS games are part of the totality of schedule. Good Lord.

Captain Bearcat failed to mention that Cincy schedules FCS teams as well.. UCF has a good schedule.

(09-24-2019 02:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  that's funny- I'm looking at Cincy football schedules and...
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The only fact I know about Austin Peay is that when Fly Williams played basketball for Austin Peay, the students would cheer "our Fly is Open, Let's Go Peay!!"

(09-25-2019 06:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

dude just about every single ******* team plays a FCS school and you damn well know it. Give me a ******* break....

He is just trolling.

(09-26-2019 06:17 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 06:21 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 02:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Whoop-de-do.

Cincinnati also has both BYU & Boise on our future schedule. But we don't stop there. Cincinnati just announced a couple weeks ago future games against Boston College, NC State, and Arkansas. A month before that Cincinnati announced a future buy-game at Notre Dame.

UCF could easily choose to have a tougher schedule if they wanted. But instead they choose to pay HBCU's to come to Orlando & get an easy win.

The Bearcat fan is spot on - UCF uses its "we deserve 1 - 1 with anybody" stance to avoid top teams and play soft in-state HBCUs and lesser G5s. Then they sign low-end P5 who are willing to accord them equal status.

I mean, just look at the schedules.

dude just about every single ******* team plays a FCS school and you damn well know it. Give me a ******* break....

He is just trolling.

UCF does have a scheduling problem, but no it isn't an FCS alone problem. It's playing FCS while playing soft P5.

Granted, UCF got unlucky with Stanford being bad this year, as Stanford has been a top program the last 20 years. But IIRC, after that, it's just more UNC, Georgia Tech, and Louisville for as far as the eye can see.

Bottom line is, no team that seriously wants to contend for the playoffs can afford to play mediocre P5, and that's all UCF can get with their 1-1 policy. Plus, it just looks bad for UCF when other AAC teams are playing teams like Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Oklahoma.

So far, the 1-1 hard line policy has been a bust for UCF.